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  1. “I can’t believe that someone who claims to be a man of God and is seeking to give moral leadership should speak from such a position of ignorance”

    I can! Hope he’s going to give an apology to the family.

    What about the links between marriage/non discrimination/kindness/equality etc etc and longevity and happiness… The Catholic church could do their bit by stop being so nasty

  2. Not news – RCC priest is cruel, despicable and disgusting to people. Nothing but a vile and hateful cult run by vile, hateful, small-minded scum. Cloistered, pampered ridiculous fools who don’t even live in the real world and live by peddling fairy tales to the stupid.

    1. To be a priests – they set the bar pretty low – basically the criteria is not too bright, nasty mouth, lack of critical reasoning topped off with a penchant for dishonesty and a love for dresses.

      1. Lovely comment in the New Statesman on this topic:

        “I actually know Tartaglia. Well, I did do when I was unfortunate enough to be a Catholic. He was the parish priest in my local church in the years before I left home at 18, and I can honestly say that I was never bowled over by his level of intelligence. He is a very, very stupid man, which is what is apparently the essential criterion for advancement within the church’s hierarchy.”

  3. Lots of people commit suicide. Some are Gay. What’s his point? A lot less GLBT people would kill themselves if it weren’t for evil ignoramuses like him.

    1. Exactly. They bitterly defy every piece of social and legal progress, using horrible hurtful language to fill young gay people with fear. And then they have the audacity to point the finger at those who fall victim to the very oppression they created and sustain. Disgusting!

  4. “So by siting one premature unrelated death as our universal example of all gay experience we can see that gay people die early, and therefore should chose not to be gay by paying for our extortionate ex-gay therapies.”
    Well that line of reasoning scores high on the fallacy-meter.

  5. I wonder how MANY peoples’ deaths CAN be linked to the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH (NOT OF GOD) THROUGH HISTORY?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  6. Catholics are scum, and this guy is a perfect example.

    And if you object to my generalisation, let me point out that by being a member of this cult you have chosen to support evil like this.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 25 Jul 2012, 11:59am

      Actually, the majority of catholics support equal marriage and aren’t scum. It’s their hierarchy that is the real problem. Ditto the CoE.

      1. But this majority continue to attend church and don’t let the hierarchy know their views, so the hierarchy continues to hold these views!

        If this majority stopped attending church in protest, for example even just a one off protest, the churches would realise how many of their followers disagreed with their views. But this majority never say a thing to their priests, vicars, ministers etc.

        1. Is that what YOU did? Or are you just blowing smoke?

          1. I stopped going to mass in my early 20’s when I made a conscience decision between my religion and my sexuality as trying to be both gay and catholic was incompatible for me.

            If everyone who disagrees with their church’s views on homosexuality stopped going until their church changed it’s views, then surely we’d see change pretty quickly – if there are as many as we keep being told.

            It’s unforgivable to say you disagree with your church’s views on homosexuality yet carry on attending church as normal and keeping quiet. That only condones the church’s views.

          2. Anyway, Reed, what are YOU suggesting? That someone can only have an opinion on a subject if they’ll personally experienced it? If you must defend homophobic religions, please do so with reasoned arguments and not irrelevant petty & personal comments.

  7. And there was me worrying that the RC’s would appoint someone with a brain and sense of fairness and compassion. That’ll teach me

  8. So a very unfortunate man in his mid 40s dies of pancreatitis, which can be caused by anything from mumps to hypothermia, and that apparently suggests there is some unspoken society-wide cover-up regarding gay men and their physical and mental well-being?

    I think Tartaglia should worry about his own mental well-being as he sounds delusional.

    Funny how these people concentrate on gay men. Do lesbians also suffer early deaths due to their sexuality? I’m sure if asked they would say yes, without offering any actual evidence; Tartaglia mentions “what he’s heard about gay relationships” without actually disclosing what this is. Perhaps he’s part of this cover-up?

  9. Despicable beyond belief! The catholic church is so desparate to to pour blame on innocent victims in the vein attempt to faulter the equal marriage debete and its ultimate rightfull inclusion in law in a modern civil society. Little wonder religion is losing its value in society as a whole.

  10. He should put a sock in it.

  11. Craig Nelson 25 Jul 2012, 11:00am

    This is sickening beyond belief. Nothing more can be said.

  12. Another anti-Christ twisting and manipulating the truth to his own advantage. To be ignored

  13. Yes Bishop.

    Being gay can kill you.

    And the reasons for this is having to spends ones life constantly being told by bigots like you that we are not worth the skin we walk in therefore increasing the likelihood of depression.

    This fat virgin in a dress is not fit for his post.

  14. Mumbo Jumbo 25 Jul 2012, 11:14am

    Jan Moir Rides Again……and this time she’s wearing a dress.

  15. Before even thinking to talk about others health this priests needs to take a good long look at himself. based on the photo is is way overweight. Must have missed the lecture on sin of gluttony at priest school.

    As for the psychotherapists she clearly lacks the ability to take feedback and reflect on her practice which means she lack one of the core skills to be a therapist.

    1. Peter Robertson 25 Jul 2012, 11:19am

      Glad to see the Scottish Government has just announced it will bring in marriage equality. That’s the most effective way of responding to these out-of-date bigots.

  16. Bloated, bigoted, ignorant pig.

    What more is there to say?

  17. Whey hey.

    Up yours Bish

    “Scotland to bring in Gay Marriage”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-18981287

    1. Actually.

      I wonder if this vile old idiots comments on a respected politician has “sealed the deal” so to speak.

      If so then excellent.

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  19. Sister Mary Clarence 25 Jul 2012, 11:27am

    How dare these people who in large numbers can’t keep their hands off young children, preach to other people about how to live their lives.

    The first thing the Catholic church needs to do is start teaching its own that interfering with young children is wrong.

    Focus on that rather than equal marriage, or the sad and untimely deaths of gay peope

  20. James As Well 25 Jul 2012, 11:28am

    Is he mates with Jan Moir? Ignorance.

  21. Robert in S. Kensington 25 Jul 2012, 11:29am

    What a vile, disgusting statement from a so-called ‘christian’, using the now debunked claims of an American hate group to perpetrate equall vile, disgusting lies about gay people. This from a cult with a long history of paedophilia, misogyny, subjugation and killing of native tribes in Latin America and in Spain, the covering up of sexual predators for decades and has said that using condoms is harmful to the spread of HIV/AIDS/ They should all be brought before the World Court in the Hague and tried for crimes against humanity.

  22. I think, Pinknews, there may be some other news from Scotland you might like to be reporting!

  23. Well, technically there’s no final e in Magdalen College, Oxford (though, confusingly, there is in Magdalene College, Cambridge and in Magdalene Street in Oxford).

    But why is the college giving a platform for homophobic bigots? Exeter College, Oxford recently renounced all ties with the nasty anti-gay industry. Are the right-wing toffs who run Magdalen (Oscar Wilde’s college no less) significantly less ethical than their opposite numbers at Exeter?

  24. SARAH , Dublin, IRELAND 25 Jul 2012, 12:00pm

    Its makes me so mad that Gay people are still denied Human rights because of what Religious people think. Religous orders should have no power on sexuality issues. If they want to shout there views, do it in a fu*kin church where their oppression is wanted!

  25. That There Other David 25 Jul 2012, 12:04pm

    People need to stand outside this man’s church and shout “Shame!!!” at him whenever he appears. What a thoroughly nasty piece of work.

  26. Omar Kuddus 25 Jul 2012, 12:09pm

    It’s raining. Must be homosexuality’s fault!

    Please !!!!!

    1. Paddyswurds 25 Jul 2012, 1:06pm

      Is any one else having problems with their comments disappearing?

      1. I usually get that in Firefox. If I open the link in Chrome my comments appear

  27. Cardinal Capone 25 Jul 2012, 12:15pm

    Maybe under the current regime in the Vatican, you only get promoted if you are loudly homophobic. And if you are not, ou get investigated, like those nuns.

    1. I bet if the Pope came out in favour of gay rights tomorrow, then Tartaglia, O’Brien and the rest would suddenly change their minds and be fully supportive of gay rights too. It’s not about being theological or philosophical with them, it’s about saying what they think the Pope wants to hear and nothing more than that.

  28. Paddyswurds 25 Jul 2012, 12:22pm

    Absolutely every story I hear or read that involves religion convinces me that religion must be curtailed. They have strayed way too far from what is their remit. The disingenuinity displayed in the video is proof enough for any secular society of the dangers posed by these deluded people. A huge jump start in the direction of placing controls on tthe myth that is religion must start with punative taxation. From the collec tion plate all the way up to corporate donations must be dealt with as and the same as political parties are dealt with because that is essentially what religion has become or rather has strayed into and seems unilling to relinquish the perceived power they have gained from such crossover. As i have said before, when the Gay “agenda is fulfilled and we have equality with the rest of society in all matters, the cohesion of our community would be well served by continuation as a political force and the focus of the force should be the secularisation of society …..

    1. Paddyswurds 25 Jul 2012, 12:30pm

      …..and the eradication of all religion but especially the destructive and negative powers that are the Abrahamic cults who use their wealth which is gained through deceit and lack of taxation, to circumvent the will of the people in democratic institutions. Their current and shrill hatred of GLB is glaringly obvious….The recent scandals regarding the Roman cult is a case in point and has been badly handled by the state when in fact all those involved from the top down should be accountable to secular or the Law of the Land and not allowed to circumvent the Law by citing Canon Law which is nothing more than made up rules invented by the church themselves to their own ends. i would be greatly in favour of such a campaign becoming the next great fight for Our community in particular and eventually society in general……

      1. Spanner1960 25 Jul 2012, 12:53pm

        “It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.” – Robert A. Heinlein

  29. Guglielmo Marinaro 25 Jul 2012, 1:29pm

    Pancreatitis caused by being in a gay relationship? That’s a new one on me. According to information from the U.S. National Library of Medicine, “The condition is most often caused by alcoholism and alcohol abuse (70% of cases in the United States). Genetics may be a factor in some cases. Sometimes the cause is not known, however.”

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001332/

    It should be noted that the Catholic priesthood is an occupation in which alcoholism is a particularly common problem, although I don’t suppose that the good bishop would have been particularly eager to discuss that.

  30. i think Tartaglia is genuinely STUPID. He also has very little knowledge of LGBT issues. None of his answers were based on fact and all were simply what he believed. This man is a joke! He’s like one of the Three Stooges wearing a clerical collar.

  31. adfbristol 25 Jul 2012, 2:27pm

    I hope they keep churning out this vile nonsense clearer and louder. The Catholic church in UK is on the path to self destruction and hate filled bigots like him are busy laying the paving.

  32. Garry Cassell 25 Jul 2012, 2:45pm

    Catholic priest are just hateful , self serving lazy bastards…and still people fund them…Most have a craving to exploite young boys…thats why they like to keep it all in the closet…that way the priest can use fear to control the boys…hateful bitches..

  33. Cardinal Capone 25 Jul 2012, 2:51pm

    Was this a university conference, as the BBC says in its online report, or was it that infamous conference organised by the CI just using the premises of a college?

  34. Jock S. Trap 25 Jul 2012, 3:39pm

    Absolutely disgraceful.

    That the partner, family and friends have to go through this just to satisfy some over inflated ego is dreadfully disrepectful and completely misleading.

    Oh and to Ms Pilkington…. There is No “Homosexual agenda”. It is only Your Homophobic Agenda that is “intimidating, bullying and generates fear”. In most cases of the LGBTQI community and mental health issues it is a direct result of people like Mr. Tartaglia and Ms pilkington and the hateful and horrifically outdated attitudes.

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  36. Pavlos Prince of Greece 25 Jul 2012, 4:11pm

    When I in public say – the recent pope has died on Parkinson because he lived in the celibacy, next day I will be sued to the court. ‘Guilty on hurting the religious feelings’ or whatever. When catholic church do similar things, its just ‘freedom of faith’, of course.

    1. Dave North 25 Jul 2012, 4:51pm

      That’ll be an ecumenical matter.

  37. How to get a promotion in today’s Catholic Church!!!! SAD!!!!

  38. Funny thing is is that this particular Bishop is one of the more liberal ones.

  39. Well I started to watch the video below and in the end just turned it off…..Man of god my right buttock!

    This man would expect anyone who spoke out against his beliefs in a vile and intolerable manner now wouldn’t he…Well sorry but I feel the same!

    Yes everyone has the right to their opinion..but when people start comparing me to a child abuser and so forth, well frankly that’s abusive IMO!

  40. David Skinner 26 Jul 2012, 1:21pm

    Article 10 of the Human Rights act, Freedom of Expression says in an abridged version:
    “The exercise of the freedom expression , since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others.”
    Clearly the comments here should be restricted, for sake of protection public health and morals, the reputation and rights of Archbishop-elect of Glasgow Philip Tartaglia, since not only are such comments inciting hatred but they wish to silence the truth about Pancreatitis and Gay sexual behaviour.
    Gays are quite at liberty to engage in life- threatening behaviour but to encourage others, especially children to do likewise, would in any normal society be considered criminal.

    http://pmj.bmj.com/content/75/884/371.full
    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199706193362516

  41. I keep hearing about teenage footballers suddenly dying of heart attacks on the pitch, but society isn’t talking about it. I think we should ban teenagers. And of course I mean this in the nicest possible way. I myself am always being persecuted.

  42. more evidence of the moral bankruptcy of the catholic church. the real question is why do idiots like this even get to be part of the debate? that a man this stupid has risen to such a position, and then is defended for his immorality, is an indictment of the whole organization.

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