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  1. Spuc, please don’t make it a big election issue in marginal constituencies. All it’ll do is result in more Tory seats, and we don’t want that.

    Also, Spuc? What kind of name is that?

    1. The ‘n’ is missing.

      1. Society for the Protection of UNborn Children = SPUNC

        I presume the American version would be Society for the Protection of UNborn Kids, giving us SPUNK?

        1. Mumbo Jumbo 25 Jul 2012, 7:49pm

          How about Catholics for Unborn Minors?

      2. It never had it.

        1. Spanner1960 25 Jul 2012, 8:51pm

          No, but lots of Catholic priests have…

  2. MamaMeggie 25 Jul 2012, 5:49pm

    SPUC is merely making a fuss to get its name into the papers. It has been a marginal force for many years.

  3. So, a group that specialises in telling women what they can or can’t do with their bodies is also again LGBT equality. I’m shocked, shocked I tell you!

    Dear Spuc (loling at that name), if you want less people accidentally getting pregnant (resulting in abortion) then you should be welcoming the unions of two people of the same-sex. No accidental pregnancies there!

  4. Labour, if elected, would continue with the policy of legalising same-sex marriage, and there’s no one else on the political stage who could have a chance of holding power (as the majority in a coalition, even), so I’m not entirely sure what they are hoping to achieve.

    What I do hope, however, is that this issue isn’t used by some as a reason to re-elect the Tories. Their austerity policies are harmful to every type of family and individual (if you don’t happen to already be quite rich and privileged), and they need to go. The march toward legal same-sex marriage will continue, and we will eventually have it in England, but it shouldn’t be used as a smoke screen to keep these people in power.

  5. One of the funniest thing I have ever witnessed was a trans friend arguing with an anti-aborionist about pro-choice.

    The anti-abortionist didnt have a clue!

  6. Look on the bright side Spuc – marriage equality won’t stop anyone from having children, or not, as they so wish.
    And keep your hands off women’s bodies while you’re at it.

  7. “ordered towards the procreation of children”

    Awesome, so presumably these people will also be making a big deal about how infertile couples and couples who use contraceptives shouldn’t be allowed to marry at the next GE? That’ll be fun car crash to watch…

  8. GulliverUK 25 Jul 2012, 6:27pm

    I won’t loose sleep over a tiny bunch of morons threatening the government.

    There are some Tory MPs who are in favour of much tighter abortion laws, and a few which ultimately would want it made illegal, but in the other parties there are few if any. If they vote against the Tories, they’ll be voting against their own interests, not that they will be able to make any real impact — all talk and no trousers. I’m sure their sister group is probably One Million Moms – with their 47,000 members :)

  9. “…especially in marginal constituencies.”

    Made me chuckle =D

  10. sorry but who are these people?

    1. Who cares?

  11. I somehow don’t think he’ll be very worried! He’ll gain more votes than lose them. Where would the votes go? Not to Labour or Lib Dem as they support same sex marriage too.

  12. Robert in S. Kensington 25 Jul 2012, 6:48pm

    A religion based organisation threatening a democratically elected government should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. It’s tantamount to subversion of government by issuing such threats. Nail the bastards I say. They’re abusing the rights of others to be free of religion, including the government.

    1. Eh? A religious organization is just another lobby group. Don’t make it out to be any more than that.

  13. And just who are they going to vote for instead? All the major parties support it anyway, all the rest dont stand a chance of winning anything.

    Face it religious lunatics, you have lost so take your idiotic beliefs and shove them.

  14. Spuc?! SPUC!??!?!

    Small-time nutters with a big mouth.

    Yes, Cameron may not do well at the polls, but it will have damn all to do with equal marriage.

  15. Who the heck or what the heck is Spuc? Where did they spring from? Go back to your homes and stop interfering and threatening other people particularly people in the LGBT Community.

  16. He’s obviously referring to the conservatives losing votes to UKIP in marginal constituencies- thereby letting in either Labour or the Lib Dems. But surely if everything goes to plan equal marriage will be enshrined in law in both England&Walesband Scotland BEFORE
    the next General Election in May 2015?

    Incidentally- I believe he is referring to these anti-abortion , anti-gay votes going to UKIP. They are already against equal marriage- so I presume that if they accept the mantle – they will become the new ‘nasty party’ after the conservatives have renounced that previously held position?

    1. UKIP always have been the nasty party since their inception they just never got into power to put their absurd policies into force.

      1. The best thing that can happen is for the religious extremists all to run to UKIP. While UKIP will like their votes in the long run their crazy demands become unmanageable and typically the party implodes. Look at the problems the GOP is having managing its religious extremists base.

  17. Religious people threatening others when they don’t capitulate to their dogmatic bilge…wow…that almost never happens….

  18. They will vote UKIP and give the victory to the Labour Party, these protest votes, will only weaken the conservatives, while the real gain of UKIP is ridiculously small, as can be seen in these local elections this year, and they think that immigrants and other minorities will vote UKIP? Only in a dream.
    The electorate history of this population is the Labour Party, just see who wins in the councils of Tower Hamlets and Newham, London

  19. Gemma Gillon 25 Jul 2012, 8:08pm

    I am an anti-abortion activist and have been for a long time now. I can not speak for the SPUC but; what I can say is if anybody can draw a logical link between abortion and gay marriage I will eat my high heels. To me abortion violates the fundemental right of a human being to life. Gay marriage will neither bring about nor stop an abortion. Sorry but the objections from my fellow life friends are illogical and silly.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 26 Jul 2012, 12:48pm

      So what about the life of a mother that might be threatened if she brings the baby to term? Let the mother die? What about the cases of rape? What about an underage girl who is raped and becomes pregnant? Why should she have to go through a living hell and give birth to satisfy the bigoted religious beliefs of others man of them men? Religion has no place in the personal life choices women or men make for that matter. Every woman has a right to choose what she wants to do, not men or religious bigots who need to stay out of womens’ wombs and out of our bedrooms. We don’t interfere or call for interference in the sex and reproductive lives of heterosexuals let alone have the slightest interest, nor should they in ours. It’s none of their damned business.

  20. This just makes it obvious that this group has a wider agenda than its name pretends. It’s possible to have reasoned and passionate differences on abortion. It’s nothing to do with same sex marriages.

  21. “Spuc and its colleagues in many pro-family, Christian and Muslim groups …

    Ooh, I just bet FU .. er, SPUC just loves its Muslim supporters: after all, some of them believe in marriage so much that they have 4 wives, what could show greater suppport for the institution?

  22. Mike Homfray 25 Jul 2012, 10:17pm

    Why, exactly, are an anti-abortion group making comments on gay rights? Exactly what connection have the two issues, other than attracting the same religionist bigots?

    There are plenty of people who do not favour abortion but dislike this sort of approach and would have no truck with SPUC.

  23. Oh he will lose votes, but not over this. It will be over all his broken promises. The horrible cuts to NHS, police, fire, coast guard, army, etc.

  24. What the HELL has same sex marriage got to do with abortions?! Idiots!

  25. “His mantra of ‘equality’ totally ignores the nature, history and role of marriage, which is the union of one man and one woman ordered towards the procreation of children.”

    Well then ALL those straight couples who CAN’T have kids, without help, should get divorced then shouldn’t they!!!

  26. New Aussie 26 Jul 2012, 1:47am

    Is this a veiled threat to do to supporters of gay marriage what anti abortionists have done to doctors and nurses in abortion clinics – gune them down?

  27. Misogynist pond scum against same-sex marriage…what a surprise…

  28. Christopher 26 Jul 2012, 3:53am

    You`d think they`d approve of these same sex couples providing a home for all these unwanted and abandoned children…

  29. I’ve said this many times, but these anti-equality protesters always bang on about procreation, yet I’ve yet to see them try and stop post-menopausal and infertile couples from marrying. Filthy hypocrites.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 26 Jul 2012, 12:52pm

      They really don’t care about infertility, it has more to do with their obsession with the sex act, having the right plumbing, a penis and a vagina, nothing more. The fact that they really don’t care about it proves how hypocritical they are when they chant the procreation mantra as the reason for marriage. I wonder how they’d react to a hetero couple marrying wherein the male partner suffers from incurable erectile dysfunction?

  30. These people suffer grandiose delusions of their importance and power. Through debate the wider public have rightly come to regard marriage equality as a human rights issue and enlightened societies around the world are moving on to address inequality to based on sexual orientation.

    What we see is that social conservative groups are now mostly made up of the nasty and the obsessively unhinged and are not as powerful as they try to portray themselves as.

  31. Can I suggest that John Smeaton’s understanding of religion and marriage is ‘woefully ignorant’. If the Pope farts, he thinks it smells of incense.

  32. So by his reckoning, the Tories will get punished at the next general election and we could end up with a Labour government who also are in favour of equal marriage. So either way, we will win this one!

    I would say that is an epic fail for Spuc (still lolling at that acronym too)!

  33. That’s just silly, he won’t lose votes due to his commitment to equality.. he’ll lose votes due to his atrocious fiscal policies. But I suppose they’ll insist it was entirely the equality thing…

  34. Robert in S. Kensington 26 Jul 2012, 1:39pm

    Meanwhile, down under, New Zealand just announced support for equal marriage. A bill is about to be submitted for debate and is expected to pass.

  35. What is interesting is that the SPUC’s website assert that gay marriage will make abortion more likely. Like their dubious reasoning that extending civil marriage to gay couples will undermine marriage: a similar claim to that once made by the US religious right about allowing interracial marriage, which was supposedly against nature (according to the Bible) and was akin to bestiality. Now where have we encountered that claim recently?

  36. I suspect the economy will be a bigger issue than either abortion or equal marriage at the next election.

    Equal marriage probably will already be enacted.

    The vast majority of people in Britain (the voters – not the dinosaurs who pretend to represent the voters) agree with equality and choice.

    Theocracy and Nadine Dorries have no place in modern politics.

  37. Could this be SPUC lashing out because of Camerons recent strong stance on pro-choice?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2012/jul/11/rich-countries-pledge-family-planning-women

    Cameron stated that contraception across the world should be encouraged and that women have rights regarding decisions concerning their bodies. Both reasonable statements. Both clear reasons SPUC might lash out at Cameron (demonstrating their inadequacies and inhumanity – not his). No reason to link it to equal marriage – thats just demented homophobia by SPUC!

  38. Hmm… I’m not sure SPUC is a very flattering name. And supporting same sex marriage is maybe the best thing David Cameron has done.

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