I think, Lord Maginnis, that it is time for you to bow out gracefully before you get thrown out completely and make a bigger fool of yourself than you already have. Take your pompous posturing and waddle off home and stop interfering in things about which you know nothing, you old wind bag. Go on, off you go.
Why allow him to bow out gracefully; better surely to have him go disgraced, humiliated, dragged before criminal courts and end up with a criminal record.
Oh no, that was only the fate of many thousands of innocent people who happened,not by choice but because of who they were, to be homosexual.
I’m only debating your first line and the rest I agree wholeheartedly with :)
His presence in the HoL. makes a good case for it’s urgent reform.
That’s ok :-)
The trouble is that there’s no way to sack someone from the Lords. Look at Mike Watson & Jeffrey Archer.
If anyone was still unconvinced of Lords reform, then Maginnis should be the ultimate argument in favour of reform.
Lord Maginnis, kindly provide us with documented, factual evidence, that equal marriage in 11 countries has devalued your marriage? Please illustrate with details quoting the sources of your information.
Tory backbenchers in Westminster, take note! This applies to you too!
Also, while you’re at it, Lord Maginnis, could you please provide evidence that equal marriage in those eleven countries has led to hugely increased lobbying for the legalisation of sex with animals?…………………Hmmm. Thought not!
His party have withdrawn the whip, so that he cannot take his seat in the Lords as an Ulster Unionist. I would go one step further. His peerage should also be revoked. This country does not want or need bigots of ANY description to be allowed any say in the legislative process.
…the institution of ‘marriage’ which derives its purpose and meaning from biblical sources
WHAT Biblical sources?! The Book of Genesis, perhaps? Not quite the modern nuclear ideal, I fear …
I think it’s safe to say that with a family consisting of a mum, a dad and two sons propogating the entire human race from scratch, either Cain or Abel must’ve REALLY loved their mother and not just in a “sending a card on mother’s day” sense.
Yes indeed, uniquely hetero incest!
Heh – indeed.
Quite! In Deuteronomy, traditional marriage advocates for the stoning of wives for adultery and children for insolence. All biblical of course but conveniently ignored by this bigoted tosser. Hetero polygamy and incest are two more examples of traditional marriage in the old testament apparently, but considered not relevant when it suits them to justify their own bigotry.
I always think the Patriarch Jacob is a good example to use in these circumstances: not only a wily sleazebag who cheated his brother out of his inheritance, but 12 sons and one daughter (or possibly more) by 4 women, 2 of them wives – and sisters – and 2 of them the wives’ slaves. Such an excellent example for the modern family. It’d put Shameless to shame!
Yes, indeed Rehan. Solomon was another. Of course, these idiots will come up with a plethora of absurd excuses to dismiss all of those things practiced in biblical times but only allude to them when it’s regarding equal marriage and anything else to do with the rights of gay people. None of them can provide one shred of evidence when challenged, neither can Maginnis.
Don’t you just love it when people use the “I’m not homophobic but…” line… usually following through with “I’m not homophobic but I hate all those deviant queers banging on about their rights, I think they should be ashamed of themselves”.
Do all bigots lack basic self-awareness?
It is becoming abundantly clear that Ken Maginnis is in the early stages of dementia and really should be in a secure medical facility. Those who are responsible for his welfare are doing him or society no favours by allowing him wander about making inflammatory statements such as he is. The man is an evident danger to himself but most importantly to others and should be arrested forthwith.
Whilst Maginnis is appalling, I’d rather you didn’t use dementia as a stick with which to beat him, it’s not fair on all the perfectly pleasant people, old and not so old, who have to suffer its ignominies.
…Whilst there are as you say ” perfectly pleasant people, old and not so old, who have to suffer its ignominies.” there are also those who become unbearable with the condition of Dementia, and I am not as you also said, using it as a stick with which to beat Maginnis. I am merely stating an observation and I am surprised that you should construe my statement as such. Maginnis is clearly displaying the early signs of this debilitating condition indicated by his recent outbursts on this and many other matters not all reported by the press, which is not surprising really as he owns or did own a printing company which had quite a few regional titles both here in Ireland and in Britain.
So I would rather wish that you didn’t automatically assume the worst. If you misread the comment or don’t understand it query it first then comment!.
I am not sure Maginnis had any printing connections Are you maybe thinking of John Taylor (Baron Kilclooney) who owns/runs Alpha Newspapers ? It’s not a big deal really as the gimp seems to think he has a lot of clout when I think most people just humour him – Policy Exchange certainly did, If they could have said there there you old duffer they would have but they had to make do with “he is entitled to his opinion”
…oops, it would seem that i made a boo boo by inferring that this Maginnis bigot had a printing business. It seems I mixed him up with John Taylor another north of Ireland politico.Maginnis was a teacher for a short while before he joined the vile UDR. It would appear he preferred the lazy political life to business.. Thanx Dave….
For anyone wishing to follow the campaign on twitter it’s @EqualMarriageNI and here is the original press release. http://garyinbelfast.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/equal-marriage-northern-ireland-responds-to-ken-maginnis/
It’s Lord Maginnis’s mind that is disgusting and not gay relationships or gay marriage. I dread to think what his private life is like or that of anybody close to him. Comes across as a total bigot.
A fair measure of the man is that he was a member or the vile and disreputable B Specials, a paramilitary branch of the discredited Royal Ulster Constabulary in the fifties. and more recently the equally disreputable Ulster Defense Regiment a branch of the British army which was disbanded in disgrace by the British authorities some years ago and joined with the Royal Irish Rangers. The UDR under this bigots leadership was probably the single worst entity of the whole Irish “Troubles” debacle.
Actually Paddyswurds the IRA were the single worst entity of the Troubles. They murdered nearly 2000 of the 3500 people killed. Facts Paddyswurds. I also fail to see what any of this has to do with ‘Lord’ Maginnis’ comments. The man speaks for no one but himself and his vile comments should be taken as such without pointing blame anywhere but squarely at his feet. Time to go ‘Lord’ Maginnis. Be a dear and sign yourself in to one of those nice wee Folds where you can sit and blame all and sundry for the state of the world.
I wish I could challenge my funding stream to you from my taxation for your “expenses” Lord Maginnis
…and would y’all stop calling this bigot “Lord”
He has been made a lord, which is why he sits in the House of Lords – whatever we might think of him and even though he’s a worm, it is the correct term.
I can assure you the form of address ‘lord’ is by no means restricted to non-bigots. More’s the pity.
he doesn’t deserve it and we don’t HAVE to call him Lord.
I agree that he certainly doesn’t appear to deserve it on any level (any more than Jeffrey Archer or Baroness Warsi) but, if we’re to stick to protocol, that is how he is to be addressed.
HRH the Duke of York might be venal and stupid, but he is (unfortunately) still entitled [literally] to be called HRH the Duke of York. Maginnis is a life peer: he, no less than any other life peer, is entitled to be called Lord.
(I would love it if only intelligent and sensitive persons were entitled to be called Lord, but if that were the case the House of Lords would be reduced to something lime 5% of itself immediately. Come to think of it, perhaps it’s not a bad formula …)
I am not British so silly made up titles don’t concern me. From Lizzzie Windsor down I have no respect or regard for titles either earned or by birth. although the born type are particularly odious parasites. the so called “lord” title si no more than a verbal bronze or silver bauble. The way Andrew Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg , his father Philips family name, is particularly odious with shameless use of such titles as he was born with, to enrich and agrandise himself..
I’m not Irish but Viscount Gormanston (title dating back to 1478) is still a lord. It may be irrelevant but it’s not something I can be bothered being resentful about.
He is the epitomy of what we’re up against in the House of Lords. If anyone is going to defeat equal marriage, it’s them, mostly all religious Tory bigots.
Accidentally reported you instead of giving you a thumbs up! Sorry!
You have to admit that these people are so absurdly off the wall, that it’s entertaining!
Yawn. What a boring man.
Every so often it’s interesting what these people come out with. Leads me to think sex with animals is often on this chaps mind in this case.
I had no idea that when Colonel Sanders, of Kentucky Fried Chicken fame, died he would be reincarnated as an ignorant, foaming at the mouth, homophobic bigot in Northern Ireland.
Yes, I think it was probably something in the Southern Fried coating
Bigots like these all have one thing in common, an obsession about sex in varying forms. Makes you wonder what if anything goes on in their own bedrooms. Perish the thought of that old tosser getting it on or maybe he can’t even get it up, hopefully it’s the latter.
These sort of comments, whilst entertaining to some, only serve to diminish our argument and render the whole thing frivolous.
to fulfill his homophobic reasoning, this animal maginnis should not be having sex with any human being. not ever.
His comments a so obered that they will be dismissed by even the homophobes.
for someone thats “not homophobic” he needs to think more carefully about what he says and how he says it.
During the Troubles in Northern Ireland, I always saw Ken Maginnis as the acceptable face of Unionism, wanting peace and equality with the Catholic community while the likes of Ian Paisley advocated segregated communities. Unfortunately however Maginnis’s views obviously does not extend to the LGBT community and any suggestion that our sexual orientation is comparable to those who commit sex acts with animals is outrageous. It is time that Maginnis stepped down from politics as Ian Paisley has done and let some new blood take over politics in the new Northern Ireland.
He looks like a really miserable sod!
Fantastic paper by the policy exchange!