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Poll: Third of gay and trans Canadians in a same-sex marriage

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  1. Where is the source for the headline – the body of the story does not seem to substantiate it!?

    1. http://www.queerty.com/poll-5-of-canadians-are-lgbt-and-a-third-of-them-are-married-20120710/

      “The poll also found that a third of the country’s gays and lesbians are in same-sex marriages.”

  2. The sample was just over 2,600. 5% said they were LGBT. 30% of those said they were in a same-sex marriage. So that’s 39 respondents out of the total. Unless a lot more LGBT people in same sex marriages have telephones, so increasing their likelihood of being sampled, this 3 in 10 result seems Improbably high given the age profile of adult Canadians and I would use a pinch of salt in believing the headline to this story.

    1. I would have thought a 2,600 sample size would give a good result. Are you suggesting the methodology was at fault?

  3. Guess what?

    The sky hasn’t fallen in in Canada.

    There has been no increase in natural disasters in Canada.

    There has been no pestulence in Canada.

    Canada is performing better than some other economies in the western world.

    2/3 of Canadians appear to support equal marriage.

    The lies that the churches use in the UK and elsewhere to try and prevent marriage equality were used in Canada and have been shown by the Canadian experience to be clear and blatant lies.

    1. jamestoronto 10 Jul 2012, 1:59pm

      And there has been no rush to marry multiple wives and/or husbands. Brothers and sisters are not lining up for marriage licences. To date no pigs, ducks, dogs, sheep, goats, moose or bison have consented to marry a human being.

      Seems the churches got it wrong — AGAIN!!

      1. Marriage between a man and his donkey…adds a whole new layer to that “not coveting thy neighbour’s ass” thing. But, I have tried to find evidence of this happening in Canada since marriage had equality and I can’t find any evidence of it either.

        Nor can I see any attempts to have polygamy, forced marriage or marriage of those too young to consent (except perhaps in some fundamentalist religious circles – but of course, religious hypocrisy would say that is acceptable, even though they use these reasons (salaciously and falsely) to try and deny equal marriage to same sex couples).

      2. GulliverUK 10 Jul 2012, 2:09pm

        Muslims aged 15-25 in Indonesia reject polygamy by 86%, and in Malaysia it’s 76%.
        http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9739593

        It’s a myth that Muslims can get married to 4 people willy-nilly, there are very specific rules in the Koran – your first wife must, for example, be infertile for you to take a second wife. It’s also quite clear that younger Muslims don’t approve of it.

        1. Indeed, Gulliver

          My intention was not to malign all of any of the religions that endorse polygamy (whether restricted or not). My intention was to point out that there was no link to polygamy and equal marriage as evidenced by the Canadian experience.

          1. GulliverUK 10 Jul 2012, 2:30pm

            No problem, I didn’t see your 2nd reply until after I posted. I was just pointing out that whilst younger religious followers don’t support the churches stance against equality, that also works for young Muslims and polygamy. If they had had the Internet hundreds of years ago there would have been younger Christians and Muslims saying they didn’t approve of the churches approval of slavery. Younger people are more individualistic, they won’t automatically adopt their parents hang-ups.

  4. GulliverUK 10 Jul 2012, 2:05pm

    http://davidbyars.wordpress.com/2011/10/28/we-are-number-1-plus/

    PEW research which includes a break-down of views on equal marriage by religions. Shows increases, except a recent dip in White Evangelical Protestants.
    http://features.pewforum.org/gay-marriage-attitudes/images/Support%20for%20Same-Sex%20Marriage%20by%20Religious%20Affiliation,%202001-2011.png

    That is for the US, it would be interesting to see the same research for Canada considering they already have marriage equality.

    Does having equal rights, including equal marriage rights, make more people comfortable expressing their individualism and asserting their choice to be open?

    1. why was there such a massive drop in support from white evangelicals in 2011? It seems like an almost 50% difference from 20% in 2010 to only 10% in 2011. A disturbing statistic when the influence of this group is acknowledged. We need to understand the reasons for this negative shift.

  5. Jock S. Trap 10 Jul 2012, 3:42pm

    This is good and positive. It proves to those bigots who just want to see us as sleeping with anything that moves what our love is just as important, just as much a contribution to society and that most of us just want to settle down with exactly the same rights all others are entitled to.7

    1. Spanner1960 11 Jul 2012, 1:40pm

      The two facts are not mutually exclusive.
      Just because people can form relationships does not mean that they, or singles don’t shag around like rabbits as well.

  6. I must admit I always chuckle when I read anything about Canada’s ‘Progressive Conservatives Party’. A contradiction in terms!

  7. “10 percent of Canadians aged 18 to 34 identified themselves as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender compared with only 2 percent of those over 65.”

    I find the discrepancies in the incidence of homosexuality between the various age slices to be suspect. I doubt that the number of homosexuals has been increasing lately. I think the incidence is constant from generation to generation, and does not change as one gets older.

    Some of the difference could be due to AIDS mortality among older gay men, but I suspect it has more to do with identification and the closet. Older people are more likely to be married to a person of the opposite sex and so identify as heterosexual even though they are attracted to people of the same sex. Plus, many are deeply closeted and too fearful to reply honestly in a poll.

    So, I think that the best lowest estimate of the incidence of homosexuality within the entire population is whatever is the highest percentage in any age slice, i.e. 10%.

  8. Spanner1960 11 Jul 2012, 1:38pm

    That has to be some kind of record, as from what I have read of other countries with CPs or SSM’s, the percentage is considerably lower.

    I wonder what’s special about Canada?

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