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  1. Great to see the rainbow flag is going to fly from a government building.

    Shame about the failures of the Pride organisers.

    It would be good (whether this weekend or another time) to see the rainbow flag aloft other government buildings eg Downing Street, Parliament, Foreign Office etc and yes, Buckingham Palace – may be wishful thinking but would send out a good message.

    Thank you Nick Clegg for ordering this though.

    1. I think Buckingham Palace is asking a bit much. Even a devoted royalist such as myself would be a bit shocked if the conventions of Britain’s most famous flagpole were breached for anything other than the Royal Standard and Union Flag.

      I think a strong case could, however, be made for flying the rainbow flag for pride each year from another royal residence, perhaps Kensington Palace (where Wills and Kate will soon be taking up residence) or Clarence House. It would certainly demonstrate that the Royal Household is inclusive and embraces LGBT equality and diversity.

      1. That There Other David 6 Jul 2012, 12:51pm

        I can’t see this happening unless the UK became the UR. The Monarchy is too intertwined with the Church of England.

      2. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2012, 4:50pm

        Agreed. It would be great to see. Like Whitehall, in these palaces staff are also from our community so therefore it would be good to see, if not to celebrate our standing in the community, in society.

        1. So for all Muslim staff, the Govt should fly the Green Islamic flag? For all Catholics, the Govt should fly the papal flag? For all…

          Nonsense, the British Government should only fly the flag of the British nation. private buildings can fly whatever flag they want a) as long as they have planning permission and b) as long as it’s not the Royal standard (unless the Queen happens to be inside said building).

          1. Nonsence.

            The Royal family made the mistake of sticking to tradition on flags – and look at the mess it got them in!

            Society evolves, stuffy traditions are old hat.

            As for the flags you mention – well neither would be my preference, but there is precedent for the Papal flag flying (albeit breifly) on a UK government building.

          2. John, this really is a very naive argument. The different vectors of diversity are individual and have different conventions (which change over time). Royals frequently visit mosques and other religious institutions and engage with faith communities in a number of other ways (Prince Charles, in fact, is well known to be extremely Islam-friendly). This is how they engage with contemporary standards of faith equality and diversity.

            LGBT equality and diversity is completely different with rainbow-flag-flying and Stonewall’s Diversity Champions scheme being the leading ways in which public bodies can engage with our community. Short of asking Prince William to snog a bloke in public for Pride each year, there’s probably not much more we could ask of the Royal Household than to fly the rainbow flag once a year and become a Diversity Champion. That’s the standard for LGBT equality and diversity and has no implicit implications for how royals should engage with other communities at all.

  2. Do you know what … whether this was motivated by genuine intention or a pr stunt, I dont care … and neither should any of us … its just a really amazing and bold thing to do. Cheers Nick.

  3. Keith Farrell 6 Jul 2012, 9:42am

    what a pity they they did not come out and save the Pride. this is a half sassed attempt to reconcile the government with the gay populations over the failed world pride

    1. oh, SHUT UP!!!!!!

  4. I don’t blame the government for the failure of World Pride.

    I’m not convinced that all the money in the world could have saved World Pride by the time the organisers revealed they were in trouble. It appears that this was not a cashflow issue – this was catastrophic mismanagement and inadequate organisation. Throwing taxpayers’ money at a thin programme with just a few days left to go would have been irresponsible.

    Perhaps we will learn that City Hall and/or the UK government were approached for funds in good time, and refused for no good reason. We can criticise them then.

  5. Thanks to the organisers I fear this years pride is going to be 4 drag queens in the rain with running make up.

    1. Seems a good metaphor for the whole debacle of Pride this year :)

  6. Was there an LGBT reception at Downing Street this year? There was one on 16th June 2010, and on 22nd June 2011, but was there a reception this year?

  7. Terry Stewart 6 Jul 2012, 11:30am

    Clegg is an embarassment. Lets not forget what he has done to Students, Disabled, Sick and the most vulnerable in our community,

    Hardly an amazing and bold thing to do, simply putting a rainbow flag on a flag pole.

    Now if he were to hang Mr Diamond formerly of Barclays from a flag pole, that would be truely amazing and bold.

    1. I would disagree.

      Regardless of what you think about Clegg – this is a bold move – its symbolic and never been done before by UK government – it is therefore to be welcomed.

    2. I too disagree. Giant leaps by humankind tend to be packaged in small steps.

      This is a terrific move by one of the UK’s staunchest supporters of LGBT rights. Thank you Mr Clegg, I will now go to World Pride (which I had decided against) just to see this historic flag flying.

  8. Garry Cassell 6 Jul 2012, 12:48pm

    Congrats…good move….fly it proudly…

  9. Robert in S. Kensington 6 Jul 2012, 12:51pm

    Thank you, Nick Clegg, a first for any international city I would think. What an embarrassment though for World Pride, a top senior government official endorsing the flying of the flag from a government building and Boris Johnson refusing to accept a bailout for the Pride event by saying it’s too late. He’s the one who could have saved it. Shame on him. That he’s not attending the event is sending some very mixed signals as to his support and commitment to LGBT people. It will be interesting to find out why he won’t be there.

  10. Nice

    But I’d prefer a timetable for when marriage equality will be introduced.

    The offensive and unnecessary consultation is now over.

    Will LGBT be equal ciitizens by December 31st 2012.

    Or is Britain to remain an apartheid state?

    Well Clegg?

  11. That There Other David 6 Jul 2012, 12:57pm

    A small gesture, but with great significance behind it. Shame that the flag will fly over such a debacle of a party unfortunately. It does somewhat take the shine off.

  12. Of course Boris doesn’t respect the Gay community. He has made that pretty clear. Good for Nick Clegg for making this happen. The Lib Dems are sticking their necks out for us. Thank you.

    1. Caped cruisader 6 Jul 2012, 3:30pm

      With 3000 people diagnosed with hiv last year mainly gay men cldnt money be better spent?

      1. Staircase2 6 Jul 2012, 4:52pm

        You’re making the (popular) assumption that money A could instead be spent in place B – whereas all funding is much more fluid than that and often only forms part of match funding or is ringfenced for particular purposes.

        We SHOULD be spending money on HIV education, diagnosis and treatments AND Pride – the two are in fact very firmly linked.

        In fact it is the vehicle of Pride which has allowed us to even be having such an open and frank conversation about things like HIV and condom use in the first place…(let alone that the Deputy Prime Minister has got Whitehall to fly the Rainbow flag tomorrow)

    2. Don’t that facts get in the way of a socialist rant.

      Boris has appointed more gay deputy mayors in his term than Livingstone ever did. He doesn’t care two hoots about anyone’s sexuality and has no hesitation in promoting gay men of merit to positions of power within City Hall.

      This archaic ‘wicked Tory step-mother routine’ is soooo last century.

  13. Caped cruisader 6 Jul 2012, 3:35pm

    Let the trustees of crusaid that emajied a police panel member ‘pain n suffering to alot of people get another job’ and paid them off in 2004 lead pride this year shame on them

    1. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2012, 4:51pm

      Erm… crazy says what now?… Wondering how this is relevant in any way to this story?

  14. Caped cruisader 6 Jul 2012, 4:00pm

    The winner for making gay men have their aids diagosis in their staff appraisals goes to the london gay run charity crusaid! All covered up staff paid of :-D

    1. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2012, 4:52pm

      Are you a bitter EX employee?

  15. Cardinal Capone 6 Jul 2012, 4:00pm

    A truly pleasant surprise, and welcome message of support.

  16. Caped cruisader 6 Jul 2012, 4:03pm

    Gay tories use aids charity money to pay of police panel member in 2004 and gag them! Now be honest with yr own community :-)

    1. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2012, 4:53pm

      in 2004?

    2. Section over?

  17. Caped cruisader 6 Jul 2012, 4:16pm

    ACT UP LONDON being Honest with the lgbt community wishes u all a happy pride :-)

  18. Staircase2 6 Jul 2012, 4:32pm

    Nice touch!

    Shame he’s part of such a discredited Government because I really did have high hopes for Nick Clegg…

  19. Jock S. Trap 6 Jul 2012, 4:45pm

    This is excellent and certain symbolic. A first for sure and one first to be proud of. Let’s hope this becomes tradition as it shows we have a government that does care.

  20. Wow! A flag!
    As a moron I wholeheartedly support this pointless gesture.

  21. OutMaturity 6 Jul 2012, 5:17pm

    Great to see this happening. Its a strong statement!!


  22. Kornelijus Norvidas 6 Jul 2012, 6:03pm

    What about City Hall? Is Tzar Boris in favor of this?

    1. Caped cruisader 6 Jul 2012, 7:17pm

      Why the aids charity cover ups by lgbt media u deserve honesty n transparency= eqality

      1. Obsession?

  23. Fying the “gay” flag over a government office is a disgrace. Nick Clegg should hang his head in shame.

  24. Great symbolic statement by government.

  25. Flying a “gay” flag on any government duilding is a disgrace, Nick Clegg should hang his head in shame. You won’t post this because you don’t really respect free spech unless it endorses your views!

  26. Pavlos Prince of Greece 6 Jul 2012, 9:11pm

    Its never will fly from a Buckingham Palace, never. Go over it and be happy.

  27. Brilliant! I’ve been very very critical of the way the LibDems have behaved in Government and the core values that they’ve lost.

    However, credit where credit is due – well done! – let’s hope his party can be as forceful in getting the gay marriage bill through parliament too!

  28. Samuel B. 7 Jul 2012, 2:08am

    What has it come to that we are now dependent on this non-entity of a lilly-livered moron to be out voice in Parliament?

  29. Half-mast ?

  30. Pavlos Prince of Greece 7 Jul 2012, 7:06pm

    Sorry, LGBT Community, but Buckingham Palace – its just impossible. What about Herodes Street Palace in Athens, when this ridiculous Republic fails?

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