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Edinburgh: Pride marchers demand marriage equality

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  1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Jul 2012, 2:45pm

    And will there be a march in London I wonder? This should be the theme of Pride this year until we get full equality.

    1. Jock S. Trap 2 Jul 2012, 3:35pm

      Agreed, it should be and esp with it being WorldPride too. The message we give should be global but instead what we have is a complete shambles.

  2. I note that the Conservatives were the only major political party who did not address the marchers.

    1. Actully, they did. I was there. Just not mentioned in the article.

      1. Equality Network 2 Jul 2012, 9:41pm

        Ross is right – Edinburgh City Councillor Joanna Mowat was the Conservative speaker.

  3. Jock S. Trap 2 Jul 2012, 3:34pm

    Take note Pride London… What we have here is how it Should be done!

    Well done Scotland, Well done Edinburgh.

    Here’s hoping marriage is up and running, showing the rest of the UK how it should be done also.

  4. Conservatives are not supportive overall. Cameron is out on a limb-and quite happy to kick this issue into “the long grass”

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Jul 2012, 4:54pm

      Well, if Scotland gets their first, it’s not going to bode well for the Conservatives in London. They’re going to be defeated either way in the next election but if it were me, I’d rather go down knowing I supported full equality. If they blow this out of the water, they’re going to be in political isolation for years. If the anti equal marriage haters don’t understand that, then they’re more stupid than I thought they were. It’s hard to imagine that they would be quite prepared to see that happen just because some don’t like equal marriage. Their political careers are at stake if they don’t support it. The younger generation doesn’t much care for the outmoded ideas of the nasty party that loves to hate people who aren’t like them, so they’re playing with fire by opposing marriage equality. They do so at their own peril. Cameron knows it. They’re only in power because of the Liberal Democrats and only by a smal majority so they owe Clegg one, big time.

      1. Robert in S. Kensington 2 Jul 2012, 4:55pm

        If Scotland gets there first, I meant to have said.

        1. If the Scottish Government, do go ahead with it, then the UK Government would have no choice but to do it too. If Cameron dropped it while Salmond legislated for it, then he’d have no credibility as Prime Minister.

          However, if the Scottish Government decide not to legislate, then it gives the UK Government an excuse to do likewise.

      2. I doubt if a conservative failure to pass an equal marriage bill is going to have much of an impact on their future electability. Heteros aren’t going to stop voting for the party they align themselves with on the basis of one minority interest… unfortunately.

        1. Sadly, I think you’re right. The amount of people who’d stop voting for them if they did drop it, and solely because of that, wouldn’t be enough to make a big enough difference. It may be enough to unseat a few marginal Tories but nothing more than that.

      3. Sorry Robert of K&C, you are very wrong about the political affiliations of the younger generation – they voted in their droves for Boris who is a far more popular role model for the teens and twenties than any of the nobodies in the Labour party, yes they are socially liberal e.g. on sexuality but in terms of big issues that affect them there is a strong conservative streak when it comes to matters such as immigration, welfare, the economy, taxation etc.

  5. It all depends on how much pull Brian Souter and Co have with Alex Salmond.
    They may just ‘postpone’ it again- I.e. “kick it into the long grass’ I know the present conservative whip is in favour of this approach.

    1. That’s my main worry – especially given the SNPs track record on gay issues, which has been muted at best.

      As well as Souter, Sir Tom Farmer is another SNP donor who’s against marriage equality. And the SNP government have given in to Catholic Church demands on a couple of occasions since they first got into government in 2007.

      Hopefully, though, they’ll see that so many people are supportive of marriage equality and do the right thing.

      1. Let’s not forget that Peter Tatchell said a consultation was often used by goverments to put off dealing with matters such as this and it’s interesting both the UK and Scottish governments went down that route. Maybe they’re both scared of dealing with it head-on and I hope the Scottish Government don’t postpone it further after the delays so far, especially if they’re worried about it affecting their independence referendum as that would push if back to at least 2015.

        Peter Tatchell also said that you don’t consult on equality, you do it.

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