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  1. Pride in the UK, and the LGBT “community” have been a bloody joke for years.

    The few who work on subjects like equality, justice, liaising with local police etc etc etc carry a huge burden on their shoulders for the weak, the feckless, the narcissistic who all think that “good” things just magically happen without any effort from anyone.

    I am sickened by the state we are in and am embarrassed to be a part of it.

    But when people would sooner blather drivel about cr@p on TV than get off their backsides and act for the good of the “community” then we will get what we deserve.

    This was long time coming, I’m not surprised, and I don’t know that I give a damn.

    I do know this – if the real fights, legality of homosexuality, employment discrimination etc etc were in play today, with the current generation of weak jellyfish who only like the party and don’t do the Pride, we would be screw3d.

  2. Pride in Eastern Europe is a political event while at the same time being a party.,

    Pride in Dublin is a big party but as it has avoided largescale sponsorship by alcohol companiies it has retained its political edge (I won’t be at Dublin Pride tomorrow but can guess that the political fight for marriage equality will be heavily featured).

    Pride in London lost its way many, many years ago (about the time the alcohol industry bought it out and allegedly demanded the removal of the political element).

  3. Cardinal Capone 29 Jun 2012, 10:33am

    Maybe from the ashes of what was intended, we can create something better, more meaningful. Bring the focus back to equality.

    For it to succeed we don’t need masses of money. We need the people just to turn up with their hearts. I haven’t been for years, but I will now go this year, to take part in a statement that we deserve equality.

  4. Do you still have to pay money for a ticket to see some 5th rate 1-hit wonder from 1996 at London Pride.

    Pride should 1st and foremost be about the parade (I was shocked that in Manchester some years ago that only invited floats actually participated in the march and that it cost money to get into the gay village that weekend). The other stuff – the party in the par, should be entirely free.

    Having to pay money to see some 5th rate hasbeens is a complete joke.

    It does not have to be this way.

    Dublin Pride is great fun while remaining polticial and free for all to attend.

    Amsterdam Pride is free for all to attend,.

    Madrid Pride is free for all to attend.

    London Pride is sponsored by alcohol companies and Tesco, and is a complete embarrassment to our capital city.

    1. Patrick Lyster-Todd 29 Jun 2012, 8:13pm

      You do not get something for nothing. If we wish a ‘party in the park’ or whatever then this comes with costs – just as it does for all the Prides you mention. How on earth can you think otherwise? The key questions are – what balance of politics to fun … and who pays for it all? The local authorities? Attendees? Sponsors? We all need to stimulate a debate post 7th July to decide what we want in future in London – and whether this is achievable. But if you want it free – then, as the current London Pride organisers have disclosed late in the day, you won’t get much if you have too few sponsors and a Tory local council (Westminster City Council) who will not pick up the bill. A march, perhaps – and that may be the best thing out of this (so long as plenty of us bother to get out and turn up) – but that will be constrained to reduce policing and clear-up costs (on the public purse).

      1. Staircase2 29 Jun 2012, 8:23pm

        This isnt true Patrick

        Its not about ‘something for nothing’ – What exactly is the ‘cost’ of having a free park event aside from the clearup costs, staging or tenting costs (which are usually paid for by sponsors or private business), Police costs which are usually covered by local authorities?

        HUGE amounts of money is made by businesses in a given area by having a local Pride event. As I understand it, Pride weekend used to be Brighton’s largest money spinner of the year.

        Ken Livingston understood this with his continual support for Pride over the years. I very much doubt now whether London Pride generates anything like the level of financial income for London businesses that it used to. Why would someone trek halfway round the country or the world to go to an event that finishes at 4.30 on one day?

        Perhaps the Pride organisers would be better off focussing on the original concept of Pride as opposed to slavishly attempting to copy the American Black and White Party circuit?

  5. I agree that a lot of Prides these days have just lost any sense of politics. I have to wonder if this might be due to the organisers catering to the market – so many LGBT and straight folk just seem to want a big piss-up for Pride.

    Also, I don’t want to sound like a dick, but Pink News needs to start checking opinion pieces more thoroughly. A lot of recent pieces (this one included) have been riddled with clunky language and jarring errors.

    1. I don’t think the problem is so much the organisers catering to the market.

      I think it’s more a case of the organisers catering to the sponsors at the expense of the poltical elenent.

      You can have a big piss-up at Pride and STILL maintain the political edge (see Dublin Pride).

      My suspicion is that Absolut Vodka and Tesco’s and Coca Cola etc want the pink pound but do not want to be associated with ickiness like the polticial demand for equality.

      When Pride obtained corporate sponsorship its political message started getting watered down.

      I mean who in their right mind thinks that seeing Scooch is more important than marriage equality?

      The Pride organisers and Tesco – that’s who.

  6. London Pride has been a joke for many years and this is further proof that the organisers couldn’t organise the proverbial brewery good time!

    But are we just as much to blame for the fiasco? After all, these events do cost a hell of a lot of money to put on, we are happy to attend them but it seems we are not happy to stick a fiver in they donation buckets as they pass by.

    I do hope that something does happen next week as it will be a crying shame if it doesn’t and it will be a wasted opportunity.

    1. I have never agreed that Pride should be funded by the attendees.

      In Amsterdam the city pays for the event (along with some limited sponsorship)l.

      Which is only right.

      Amsterdam Pride attracts about 300,000 extra people to the city (and Amsterdam has less than a 1,000,000 population).These people are staying in hotels, eating in restaurants, spending money in shops and drinking in bars. The city pays for the festival knowing full well that the boost to the city economy more than pays for the event.

      The whole city participates,

      Why this does not happen in London also is a complete mystery.

      1. I agree dAVID, I have been to Amsterdam Pride and has an absolute blast.

        I think that the problem is that the city does not want to pay for it because I suspect that they fear the backlash they would get from the religious bigots. Regardless of how much everyone would benefit from the extra commerce it brings as you have rightly stated.

        I do believe however, that we should all still make a voluntary contribution toward the cost of hosting such events but we also need a team behind it who are not fighting amongst themselves or paying themselves to high a salary.

        I would gladly volunteer sometime to organsie these events.

        1. @D.McCabe

          I agree with you that we should all make a voluntary contribution. I have not been to London Pride for sometime now (about 10 years) but when I did, I always made a contribution and felt proud that we had this event going. It’s sad how things have turned out now.

      2. Staircase2 29 Jun 2012, 8:24pm

        @David …it used to…

  7. Jock S. Trap 29 Jun 2012, 11:09am

    An excellent article which says it all.

    This whole tragedy has only come about because of extremely poor management by those at Pride London and heads should roll for putting us to shame esp on this one event.

    It is just simply not good enough to change things two weeks before when so many will have put so much effort in supporting, personally and financially.

    This whole travesty is nothing but an embarrassment and London will suffer economically as a consequence. If you don’t put on a good strong show you can’t expect people to return. This will damage London Prides reputation and further more so with no apologising for letting everyone down.

    1. Sister Mary Clarence 29 Jun 2012, 10:37pm

      I absolutely agree. We can all kick off about the council not paying or the GLA not paying or whether we should all contribute or not, but at the end of the day, the Pride committee too on the responsibility of looking into, addressing, and resolving all of these issues.

      I’m at a loss to understand how its all ‘suddenly’ gone t1ts up the week before the event and THEY are not responsible but everyone and everything else it.

      Responsibility is the key work here really:

      No acceptance of responsibility
      No notion of the concept of responsibility
      Utter lack of responsibility

      and of course irresponsibility

      Never fear though, I assume it will be the same ‘community activists’ with their noses in the trough organising it again next year.

  8. To be frank its highly embarrassing. The London Pride team should be hugely ashamed.

    The only good thing that MAY come of this is a return to simpler plainer more politically driven pride marches which highlight the plights of the gay community as apposed to showing its ‘peculiarities’.

    1. This can be achieved by getting the city to pay for the costs of holding the event and dumping the corporate sponsors like Tesco, Coca-Cola and Absolut (if you rely on corporate money to hold a community event then like it or not you are accepting that the corporate sponsor will demand a say on what can or cannot happen at the event).

      It may be a smaller event but people will engage with it more and support it (and the cost of holding the event will be offset by the boost to the city economy by having hundreds of thousands of visitors.)

      Pride can stil be a marvellous event (other European cities seem to manage it after all).

      London Pride needs to go back to the drawing board and decide a new way to proceed.

      1. Cardinal Capone 29 Jun 2012, 11:27am

        It will be fabulous cos we will be there!

      2. The problem is that I don’t think that the city will pay for it! As far as I am aware they never have and particularly in these times, I can’t see them doing so now!

  9. Black Hawk Down 29 Jun 2012, 11:34am

    Pride London have marginalised community groups for years. It once was the case that several thousand pounds was allocated by the GLA for community groups. Back in 2009, several community groups asked where the money was going because non had been allocated. Pride London refused to answer. One community group, TransLondon, threatened to boycott the parade unless Pride London came up with some answers.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/05/27/trans-group-boycotts-london-pride-march/

    They lied then and they have lied since over their sorry management of funds. Someone should right to the Charities Commission and demand an investigation into their finances.

  10. Suddenly Last Bummer 29 Jun 2012, 11:46am

    That’s all well and good but won’t someone please think of poor Deborah Cox!

    1. COX !!!!!!

      Fnar, Fnar!

  11. Cardinal Capone 29 Jun 2012, 12:05pm

    If we can move on from recriminations, we can take this opportunitity to reclaim Pride for us, the ordinary people, just by being there. In a way, all the big sponsorship, whilst appreciated originally, has proven to be disempowering, with everyone expecting it all to be done for them by some else.

    But all we need is just to be there, on the march, making a stand for equality everywhere.

    1. No let’s stick with recriminations for a while yet.

    2. David Myers 30 Jun 2012, 11:43am

      Absolutely correct! Don’t let this world stage event down. Turn out and be yourselves. We don’t need big floats and big budgets – we just need to be ourselves – in large numbers!

  12. That There Other David 29 Jun 2012, 12:06pm

    Shambles really. A Charities Commission audit is required, followed by an open conversation as to how this has soured and how to get it back on track. Pride London are too secretive when problems occur, and as a result there are more problems than there need to be.

  13. Just taking a look at the accounts for Pride London would suggest that it has not been on a particularly good financial footing for several years. Returns being late and a very odd looking set of accounts for 2009 where income & expenditure were exactly equal!

    The level of creditors & debtors for 2010 indicate a cash flow problem starting to develop back then, this obviously has not been addressed – poor financial control!

    Given that this World Pride event has been in the planning for the past 5 years why have these weakening financial indicators not been highlighted by the Trustees & attempts made to get the LGBT Community involved in fundraising & influencing the direction of the event.

    Sadly I think there is a general lack of interest in Pride events these days as has been commented on several times. As a Community we need to get much more involved to ensure important events are safegaurded.

    The Trustees should resign and make way for new blood & ideas, shame on them!

    1. A lot of the problem is the way Pride London is run – it’s a very exclusive ‘members only’ club, run by the members, for the members. They’re not in the slightest bit interested in the LGBT community (by this I mean community groups), rather the ‘celebrity’ status that comes with being on the board, the free entry to the clubs and bars this brings and the hob-nobbing with gay celebs (all be they minor ones). It’s all there in the FB pics of those on the board.

      5 years to plan – and this is what they come up with?? Not surprised Birrell and Howard-Lloyd jumped ship when they did. Thing is though, they can’t expect to get off scott free and leave the blame to others, they should be held to just as much account.

    2. Well said W6!!

  14. Terry Stewart 29 Jun 2012, 1:25pm

    Shame is not a strong enough word to describe the antics of this non-event. Birrell and Lloyd-Howard saw this coming and jumped month ago, while they leapt from the Pride train which was already heading towards the buffers.

    I notice no one has mentioned Hackney Pride, in showing good practice within our community. These are the same people who attempted to wreck Hackney Pride which is a community lead event that has no debts, voices the issues impacting on our coummity and is supported by the whole community.

    No it’s not a huge event but it does do what it is supposed to and that is delivered what the community want. Lloyd-Howard took out Freedom of Information request on a number of organizations involved in Hackney Pride, and the funding we were receiving. This was an attempt to undermine the good work that local LGBT people were doing for our community.

  15. Terry Stewart 29 Jun 2012, 1:25pm

    Lloyd-Howards problem was, we don’t get funding from the public purse nor do we charge for our event. The community does the funding and it is with the grace of individuals like David Pollard, Landlord of the Joiners Arms that the event takes place.

    One has only got to look at the Smirnoff advertising to see how offensive their policy to other communities is. Yet they were the major funders and were calling the shots, no pun intended.

    The bottom line is, it has happened because as a community we are not organized. The warning call has been sounded and the warning lights have flashed. We need to get organized as a community, because when the real serious issues which will have a devastating impact on our lives arrive we will be standing naked and defenseless. It’s a blessing in disguise, if we take heed of the warning.

    In the mean time go to Pride enjoy it and let our voices be heard. And remember come September we have Hackney Pride, which is a truly inspirational LGBT Community ev

  16. terry stewart 29 Jun 2012, 1:29pm

    Lloyd-Howards problem was, we don’t get funding from the public purse nor do we charge for our event. The community does the funding and it is with the grace of individuals like David Pollard, Landlord of the Joiners Arms that the event takes place.

    One has only got to look at the Smirnoff advertising to see how offensive their policy to other communities is. Yet they were the major funders and were calling the shots, no pun intended.

    The bottom line is, it has happened because as a community we are not organized. The warning call has been sounded and the warning lights have flashed. We need to get organized as a community, because when the real serious issues which will have a devastating impact on our lives arrive we will be standing naked and defenseless. It’s a blessing in disguise, if we take heed of the warning.

  17. terry stewart 29 Jun 2012, 1:30pm

    In the mean time go to Pride enjoy it and let our voices be heard. And remember come September we have Hackney Pride, which is a truly inspirational LGBT Community event, right here in our city.

  18. terry stewart 29 Jun 2012, 1:41pm

    Sorry folks I have just made a right worldpride of that last postings. Apologies. I think his name should be Howard-Lloyd and not the reverse.

    Oh dear imagine the shame I got his name wrong lol!

    1. That There Other David 29 Jun 2012, 2:01pm

      Is this a new dictionary definition in the making?

      Worldpride (wurld-pryde) verb – 1) to cock-up profoundly, 2) to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, 3) to destroy years of goodwill through abysmal organisation.

      ;-)

  19. This is a disgrace. Being planned for 5 years and 10 days before this comes out?!
    I wont be going, which is a shame because pride was always a highlight of my year.

  20. I’m glad that James has written this article. Like him, I was also an associate director of communications at Pride London both the year before James joined, and the following year. During my time, I worked on the storyboard for the video that was used for the successful bid for Worldpride 2012, as well as the HR structure required to support the event, and am very disappointed with what has occurred in the last few days. However, I cannot say that I’m surprised. I left the board of Pride London mainly because I was increasingly frustrated by the behaviour of a minority of individuals on the board who seemed to put their own egos before that of the greater cause of the event. It’s possible to run this event very well, but it needs new blood of good quality LGBT individuals to come forward to make it happen. Sponsorship is needed, but this should be broader and not confined to a small number of companies. Finally good communication with volunteers and sponsors is vital!

    1. Patrick Lyster-Todd 29 Jun 2012, 8:34pm

      An excellent comment, Andrew. I hope you’ll join any post-7th July debate about what to do now – or even help craft a more representative and better led and managed successor to London Pride.

      1. I would certainly consider assisting in any way I could. I firmly believe that the LGBT community has within its ranks some very competent and capable people, but it just needs enough of them to come forward and form a cohesive and credible organisation – as it will now be a very difficulty way forward and credibility of the organisers will be everything.

    2. Since you “worked on the storyboard for the video that was used for the successful bid for Worldpride 2012, as well as the HR structure required to support the event”, perhaps you could enlighten us on where, how soon, and why the promises, and plan, departed from the reality?

      Other than one small conference and the flags strung over the route, the resulting event doesn’t seem to have been any more “world” than would would normally expect in such a cosmopolitan city. Perhaps even less so. Or were all the “world” aspects going to be on the floats?

  21. Too many ( London) queens in one small kitchen. They have this strange delusion that they are important to the general gay cause outside the M25.

  22. Not only has Pride London said and done squat to support or promote marriage equality, they chose to give their highest honor to one of the VERY few remaining members of the Obama administration who has never publicly declared support for marriage equality (even though her husband, her daughter and her boss have ALL come out in support) but she has repeatedly stated publicly that she believes that marriage should be a heterosexual union.

    No wonder Pride London is going into the dustbin of irrelevance.

  23. Terry Stewart 29 Jun 2012, 4:55pm

    A question. Who snatched the communities resources and which organisatons and individuals have gained from this disaster.

    What was the role of Square Peg Media and how much did they pick up?

    At this moment in time Westminster City Councils special events department has no plans for World Pride at all and as far as they are concerned World Pride has gone into hiding.. The GLA I am told are working in the background to pull together some sort of recovery package, now that they realise how disgusting they have behaved so far, which stands to lose them a lot of LGBT browny points..

    It seems to me that the damaged caused to our comunity by both World Pride and the host London Pride is a disgrace to say the least.

    Open up the books and lets see who really did the damage and who made a killing out of this at our expense.

    1. David Myers 30 Jun 2012, 11:51am

      Do all this yes, but in the meanwhile turn out in hugh numbers to make our presence known. Staying home only plays into making everything worse.

      1. David Myers 30 Jun 2012, 11:53am

        Should be “huge” numbers. Don’t cut off our nose to spite our face. I live in Canada, but this should not be a no turn-out event while the world is watching!

  24. This reflects what is happening to prides across the UK. In Cardiff for example, Mardi Gras, they won’t even use the word Pride as it may sound political, has been transformed from a community event into a commercial ticket only pop festival fenced off in a field where no straight person’s eyes need be offended. They claim that there will be a parade but this almost certainly wont happen as they only announced it a few weeks ago and expect outside people to organise everything without support, whilst the main event which makes them the money has been planned and marketed for almost a year.

    I suspect the same strategy was used by the World Pride organisers, concentrate on the party and cancel the unprofitable part at the last minute. We need to reclaim pride!

  25. Robert in S. Kensington 29 Jun 2012, 7:07pm

    Is it no surprise? We only managed to get less than 60,000 signatures on the C4M petition considering there are roughly 3 million LGBT people in the UK.

    This is an absolute disgrace. In the history or Pride in the UK, there has been no mention of support for equal marriage, unlike in other parades around the world, even before there was any mention of it by Nick Clegg in 2010. Nothing in 2011 and nothing in 2012. I don’t buy that this utter failure had anything to do with the economy. Spain is a basket case as far as that goes yet it can put on a far better show than we can with less. Let’s face it, we just can’t hack it, third rate too and we can’t be relied on either. It’s beyond embarrassing.

  26. Another Hannah 29 Jun 2012, 7:18pm

    I don’t really know about London pride, but I do think the whole pride movement has been too commercialised and self interested for years. And pride should be about supporting the areas where they are held, and not just Aids, but homelessness and community activities. I think the irony is that the rip-off prides actually stop many of us from taking part. I did one pride parade in Manchester, but I’ve never done it here in Blackpool, and that’s because I feel like the whole thing is about commercial interests, and I’d be a kind of commercial freak show, to help sell commercial products and businesses – in the end just exploitation. I don’t really think people should just turn up in London – that just gives them what they want. Make pride about the people and people will get interested, otherwise they can fxxc-off.

    1. Another Hannah 29 Jun 2012, 7:35pm

      Incidentally, I don’t mind a small admission fee, but I expect to get something for it! Surely Pride should be a charity and celebs. giving their services for expenses only? It just isn’t very entertaining, and has nothing much there I want, and for me political motives are ALL important. No poitical agenda and campaigning and it isn’t pride it’s just a small and slightly naff light entertainment festival.

  27. Staircase2 29 Jun 2012, 8:12pm

    One of the most worrying things about ‘World Pride’ has been the COMPLETE and utter lack of any information about why, how or when…

    Not ONE of the friends I’ve spoken to about it in the past 6 months or so has known ANYTHING about it.
    I sat in a Union meeting only a couple of weeks ago and none of the LGBT members knew anything about it either – only one had some listed info which was being referred to so as to garner support from members to march with the Union flags.

    Its a bloody disgrace that such a HUGE international event isn’t known about by anyone. I’ve also told other friends in the States about it and they didnt know anything either.

    Like I said: a complete and utter PR disaster – its like a non-event.

    Then a few days ago I was telling another London-based friend that I would probably be marching with my Union only to be told ‘as long as it’s still going on’. He had heard about serious troubles within the organisation which meant that it may well be pulled…

  28. Staircase2 29 Jun 2012, 8:12pm

    What a mess!

  29. Another Hannah 29 Jun 2012, 8:14pm

    Hmm, my sometimes conspiracy minded brain just wondered if maybe this was some deliberately put up job by powers unseen (dark forces?). I mean after all they decided to put undercover policemen into greenpeace because they thought they might be a threat to the state, surely the state might think that LGBT rights orgs are a similar threat?

    1. Another Hannah 29 Jun 2012, 8:19pm

      Come to think about it, what about the security services guy on secondment to MI5 from GCHQ who had loads of designer dresses in his wardrobe? I mean I thought he was just another smart trannie, but now I think about it….

      1. “Trannie”?!!!!

        His sister said they weren’t even his size, and were probably meant as gifts.

        Surely if undercovers were involved it would have been better organised?

  30. Staircase2 29 Jun 2012, 8:16pm

    About time Pride organisers started actually listening to people and stopped reeling off the predictably lame spin I think…

    People ARE angry about the way that Pride is continually being hijacked and turned into a commercial event. I simply don’t buy the notion that its not possible to organise a FREE event on this scale.

    Wasnt the recent Hackney Music event free? Pride was one of the biggest UK festivals until it started getting a) GROSSLY incompetent and b) greedy.

    Its as if not a single one of the organisers has enough brain to sort the mess out.

    WHY WHY WHY?

  31. Utterly scandalous. My impression is that London-based Pride in particular got shafted by corporate profiteers years ago. My partner and I are going on the march this year for the first time in years, but really just so that we can hook up with my work-based lgbt group which I can’t normally participate in because I work mostly at home. We’ll just have to make the most of it!

  32. David Wainwright 30 Jun 2012, 1:59am

    Everyone make for Hyde Park and sit down , as it was in the beginning so shall it be in the end , the trouble is we have forgotten that PRIDE IS A PROTEST .

  33. I have been informed that a sponsor has now stepped in to plug the financial shortfall for World Pride but the stumbling block now is a reluctance of Westminister City Council and the GLA to revert back to the original schedule.
    They will be meeting on Tuesday to discuss it. In the mean time we are all left in limbo of planning events and participation in and around the main event.

  34. Dangermouse 30 Jun 2012, 12:49pm

    When you get big money sponsors you get the message turned from rights to how much we can advertise the products the sponsors sell.

  35. Terry Stewart 30 Jun 2012, 1:22pm

    Age UK and Open Doors the Elders LGBT project have withdrawn from the event, because of the way that World/London Pride organisers have behaved. .

    To think that the very people who fought for our rights 40 and more years ago have effectively been excluded is an absolute disgrace.

    What a way to treat our Veterans and absolute disgrace.

  36. Robert in S. Kensington 30 Jun 2012, 2:23pm

    And exactly what is Boris doing about it?

  37. Pride has had its day; haven’t been to one for years. I sit quietly writing/emailing MPs, the Press and media, as well as trying to get on ‘phone-ins and talk shows. I hope my efforts have had some effect – possibly more than wearing silly clothes and getting drunk.

  38. Another Hannah 1 Jul 2012, 11:05am

    Thinking about it also if there is no politics in pride then that is making a political statement. I don’t think pride should be party political, in that it supports one party over another, but at the same time it ought to be much warmern to parties that are positively inclined than those that are negatively inclined. NO politics in pride can only politically saying 1 of two things. 1)We think the present unequal position is fine. or 2)We don’t think the present political position is fine, but we don’t care about suffering as long as it isn’t us.Incidentally I have done voluntary work in the past, but I wouldn’t work for nothing for what is a business venture and nothing else. Singing is fine (because I don’t really regard it as work), but if pride doesn’t support pushing for equality it’s just commercial and should pay commercial rates for work.

  39. Terry Stewart 1 Jul 2012, 2:28pm

    Oh dear! The British Board of censors have been called in. My latest postings are not going up. Not a very healthy state of affairs.

    Nothing vaguely offensive or incriminating about them

    So Administrator please tell me what the problem is..

  40. John Battersea 1 Jul 2012, 5:56pm

    There was no community when Crusaid e-mailed its HIV staff “pain and suffering to alot of people get another job with a better employer” – its a Scam
    Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:12:56 +0000
    From: RobinB@crusaid.org.uk
    To: xxxxxxxxxxcrusaid.org.uk; xxxxxxcrusaid.org.uk; hotmail.com

    I want to see the two of you in the meeting room tomorrow at 10 am. No excuses. I sincerely hope that this email conversation has not been widely distributed.
    Robin Brady
    Chief Executive

    LGBT Cover-ups by the LGBT Media
    ACT UP LONDON SILENCE=POVERTY

  41. John Battersea 1 Jul 2012, 5:59pm

    Everyone ran away when Crusaid threatened a Police Panel Member with a HIGH COURT INJUNCTION !!!!
    Congratulations to The Trustees of Crusaid for theatening a Police Panel Member with a HIGH COURT INJUNCTION and then apologising for writing to them for Money ALL HUSHED UP
    Subject: RE: Crusaid – Letter from Crusaid March 2007 sent to me in error
    Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:56:34 +0100
    From: LGILMORE@hamlins.co.uk
    To: xxxxhotmail.com
    Dear
    I have contacted Crusaid. They do not know why your name is still on the circulation list for Walk for Life.It should have been removed . I have requested the same forthwith. I would imagine the list is separate to the main contact list. Apologies this was not done before. However as you know this is a circular – altho’ you should not receive it.

    I note you will be walking which is marvellous. It shows that the email re the walk this year cannot have caused the offence etc as you say. No money is wasted on an email mail out. I may see you on the walk as I intend to continue to raise money for those poverty stricken by this dreadful illness. My passion in that regard has not changed .
    I will not be responding any further. Your continued reference to the injunction is with respect irrelevant and relates to totally separate matters long closed.

  42. John Battersea 1 Jul 2012, 6:02pm

    Gay Tories use AIDS Charity money to “pay off”Police Panel Member to keep quiet and cover up SCANDALS!!!
    ACT UP LONDON STOP THE LONDON AIDS CHARITY SECTOR COVER-UPS AND SCANDALS
    DEMAND A TRANSPARENT UPFRONT AND HONEST AIDS CHARITY SECTOR – NO MORE COVER-UPS

    CRUSAID PAYS HIV POLICE PANEL MEMBER AND STAFF
    COMPENSATION FOR LOSS OF EMPLOYMENT
    After Registered Charity Crusaid declaring on the Registered Charity UK Coalition of People Living with HIV/Aids Charity funded website Positive Nation’s Positive Voices “we’ve been upfront and honest” a few months after signing a Compromise Agreement which prevents to Charity from being upfront and honestDated 23rd July 2004 signed by Robin Brady CEO of Crusaid
    “The Charity on its own behalf and on behalf of all Associaciated Companies shall without any admission or liability whatsoever, as compensation for loss of employment,pay to the Employee the sum of £_________ inclusive of his statutory redundancy payment…”

  43. John Battersea 1 Jul 2012, 6:04pm

    A Community full of scandals & Cover-Ups – Welcome to the London LGBT
    The Metropolitan Police confirm Data Protection Breaches to The Information Commissioner – all the ones The London AIDS Charity Sector has been trying to COVER_UP>>>>>

    A POLICE PANEL MEMBER COMPLAINED TO THE METROPOLITAN POLICE AND OFFERED THEIR RESIGNATION TO THE CHIEF INSPECTOR AFTER BEING SENT THE MULTIPLE MEDICAL DATA BELONGING TO ANOTHER POLICE PANEL MEMBER OF THE GROUP BY LONDON AIDS CHARITY CRUSAID – THE POLICE DIDNT ACCEPT THEIR RESIGNATION.THEY FURTHER COMPLAINED THEY HAD BEEN E-MAILED BANKRUPT LONDON AIDS CHARITY UK COALITION OF PEOPLE LIVING WITH HIV/AIDS MIDWEEK SUPPORT GROUP CLIENT DATA BASE INC: FIRST NAMES,SURNAMES,POSTCODES,E-MAIL ADDRESSES OF PEOPLE LIVING WITH HIV AIDS IN LONDON THE POLICE INSTRUCTED THEM TO CONTACT THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONER AND THE CHARITY COMMISSION.
    ALL HUSHED UP FROM PEOPLE LIVING WITH HIV/AIDS IN LONDON

    METROPOLITAN POLICE CONFIRM TO INFORMATION COMMISSIONER CRUSAIDS HIV RETURN TO WORK STAFF SENT LGBT POLICE PANEL MEMBERS MULTIPLE MEDICAL DATA…..
    Sent: 18 January 2008 16:13:33
    To: —–hotmail.co.uk
    Cc: XXXXXXXXXXXXXmet.police.uk
    XXXX
    The phonecall with the person from the ICO was relatively short. I would point out that I have only told them what I know to be true or what you have communicated to me in relation directly to the data protection issue..
    I explained that you had told me the following and I had provided advice where necessary
    1. You had been passed medical data of a member of the LGBT advisory group…..

  44. John Battersea 1 Jul 2012, 6:07pm

    + + WORLD PRIDE CELEBRATION + +
    Terrence Higgins Trust “Destroys Crusaids Gagging Compromise Agreement with Police Panel Member
    ALL HUSHED UP BY LGBT MEDIA
    From: Amanda.Bearman@tht.org.uk
    To: hotmail.co.uk
    Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:23:37 +
    Subject: RE: Fao Amanda Bearman THT Legal Advisor – Data Request for Data Being Destroyed by THT
    Dear Mr xxxxxx,
    I’m afraid I am unable to assist with your request as I did not consider the documents, did not keep a list and they are all now destroyed.Kind regards
    Amanda Bearman

    + + ACT UP LONDON STOP THE LONDON AIDS CHARITY COVER-UPS

  45. John Battersea 1 Jul 2012, 6:09pm

    METROPOLITAN POLICE CONFIRM POLICE PANEL MEMBER E-MAILED AIDS CHARITY CLIENT DATA BASE
    ALL HUSHED UP BY LGBT MEDIA ! ! !
    From: xxxxxxxxx@met.police.uk
    To: XXXXXXXXXhotmail.com
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@met.police.uk
    Dear XXXXX
    You write in your e-mail asking
    if any Panel Members have any concerns if my colleagues were to write to the Evening Standard thanking the Panel for their support and the MET for exercising their discretion twice in not arresting a disabled resident, once for four months after I offered my resignation after a Aids Charity sent me medical data belonging to another Panel Member and again when a Aids Charity e-mailed me their client data base.
    + + ACT UP LONDON STOP THE COVER-UPS DEMAND A TRANSPARENT AND HONEST COMMUNITY + + + +

  46. Diana Taylor 2 Jul 2012, 1:10am

    I think the 1st thing that should be done for Pride 2013 is to take the event away from Westminster, if they don’t want our event then we can easily host it elsewhere! My vote would be primarily for Southwark and with the Parade launching from Westminster Bridge and terminating at Burgess Park on Camberwell New Road, the park has a history for hosting the huge annual South American festival, there are excellent transport links and the bars in Soho could easily contribute and profit by running individual drinks franchises. The whole event needs a family friendly focus centred around being a vital and vibrant part of the wider community as a whole and not as exclusive and separatist, if the LGBT Community is to gain wider acceptance we have to start focusing on this first and foremost and move away from the focus on sexuality…

    1. Terry Stewart 3 Jul 2012, 10:27am

      Well Diana I feel there is room for many Prides and people should begin to act locally, like we do in Hackney. A Southwark Pride would be an addition to that.

  47. come to madrid next year, we are a poor country but u are all welcome. 2.2 million on streets this year.

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