Excuses, excuses. To blame the UK economic climate at the same time as Madrid will be putting on a bigger and better PRIDE in even dire financial circumstances, is insulting our intelligence. What I also find insulting about the World Pride press release is that there is no apology, no owning up of any responsibility for screwing up or for leaving people in financial disarray. In fact nothing to do with them. Talk about GAY SHAME.
ACT UP LONDON SILENCE=POVERTY
Crusaid Head of Dept Charity e-mail to HIV Police Panel Member…..
“pendantic,uncooperative and causing stress hassle and pain to alot of people” …..If Crusaid is so bad get another Job with a better employer”
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:12:56 +0000
To: xxxxxxxxxxcrusaid.org.uk; xxxxxxcrusaid.org.uk; hotmail.com
I want to see the two of you in the meeting room tomorrow at 10 am. No excuses. I sincerely hope that this email conversation has not been widely distributed.
STOP THE GAY TORIES COVER-UPS
What is the shortfall in funding?? Who are the board members and where is the accountability and corporate governance?? Does the government contribute financially? The Sydney Mardi Gras is heavily financed by the government because it is a major drawcard and rakes in the tourist dollars…
If they can’t get it right, don’t do it. It will probably rain anyway.
World Pride my arse! It’s a disaster and a shame on the people who have gone along with the decision to scale it down. They should have had the guts to oppose the proposal at yesterday’s meeting and demanded we are allowed our World Pride.
I understand it was deemed a security risk and for that reason and not one of funding which pushed both Police and Westminster City Council to scale it down to nothing more than a village procession.
If Westminster City Council and the Police cannot afford us the protection to walk about and celebrate our Pride, here in London, then we might as well be in Russia, Afghanistan or Romania. So much for us preaching about the free World we inhabit.
Nothing could be further from the truth and I hold both the authorities for doing this and the World/London Pride cttees for allowing this to happening without consulting with the LGBT Community. For those who voted Boris, this is your pay back.
The good news is Hackney Pride will still go ahead this year and we will have an event that will make us proud to be whoever and whatever we are and wherever we are from. Don’t miss it.
In that meeting the organisers of pride wanted the GLA and Westminster council to cancel the entire thing, so that they could blame them.
The authorities refused to cancel, not wanting to take the wrap, and instead told pride to do what they could afford.
This is going to cost the authorities more money, instead of a light policing presence supported by stewards and security they are now going to have to fully police a protest march, for which the roads will not be fully closed, and have many more officers on the streets in soho where many more people than normal will be present with no focal events to help manage crowds.
Pride have acted disgracefully.
There are MANY wealthy LGBT people in the UK . . . if they really wanted this to succeed then they would let it happen . . . what about Stonewall? . . . what about the huge amount of money in their coffers? . . . what about their Top 100 companies . . . something could be done if it was wanted . . .
You are expecting gay men to dip into their pockets for a worthy cause?
A lack of imagination from start to finish has characterised the Prides of the last few years…. many have volunteered to create safe and professional green field festivals. Mind you having a non activist pro gay mayor might a difference… I am sure Ken would have moved Heaven and earth to make sure London was a beacon of pride around world rather than this lazy, non-mayor we now have. We had our choice in May and people supported who they wanted. Now slowly chickens come home to roost,,
tell elton john to cancel his flower arrangements for this week and pick upmthe tab for the pride event instead
That ain’t gonna happen. What would be in it for Elton? At his AIDs fundraisers he and his intellectually challenged partner get to squeeze themselves into tuxedos and ingratiate themselves with the Brangelinas of this world. Pride is too ‘shabby’ and common an event for someone of Elton’s pedigree. Now if it were a paying gig at some middle eastern despot’s birthday party, well that’s a different thing.
Nasty, evil tongued and unfair to boot. EJ has given time and made effort to raise awareness for the gay community and more importantly raised millions for HIV funding. So what if he does it his way ? That gives you no right to carp. And what right do you have to make inappropriate personal remarks from the safety of your anonymity? Keep your cheap bitchy comments for your enemies not your friends.
lol what an embarrassment. It’s quite sad actually, because hundreds of thousands of people will still go to London for the partying/clubs/etc, so really the only people affected are the people who attend Pride for political/charitable reasons. And families of course.
And for this to be happening a week before the event is inexcusable for an event of this size… utterly unbelievable really. Tut tut.
What a load of bollocks from both Tatchell and Pride themselves.
I say we properly return pride to it’s roots. Eschew the clubs and bars and march together for our basic rights.
Stop the focus on cars, floats and expensive costumes and remind people that Britain still has a LONG way to go in terms of LGBT rights.
How about a million voices in the streets demanding marriage equality?
Maybe that will scupper the tories ‘not a pressing issue’ argument?
Spot on! :)
Totally agree, Jack! A lot of gay people weren’t bothered enough to sign the C4EM petition and the government’s consultation questionnaire, and yet they’ll turn up for a parade that achieves nothing.
well said Jack
Jack for 364 days a year the community is largely located in bar and clubs. Sure you can organise a march, I suggest you do and see how easy it is or isnt. If you attended gay Sunday at Lovebox you will see that the gay promoters can put on a world class event with Grace Jones and Chaka Khan on. “The community” style prides can barely get Steadman from Five Star. Summer Rites is a great festival as is UK Black Pride. London Pride, ever since the gay mags staged a coup a few years ago and attempted to run “Mardi Gras” with dollar signs in their eyes its been a mess.
However a few years before that a good march and speakers in Trafalgar Square then everyone would head to Clapham or Brockwell Park for 100,000 capacity festival working with bars and clubs. Everyone was happy. But all those criticising on here had the chance to get involved. But its generally so unspeakably naff that few do.
This is embarrassing. It’s not just a London Event, this year it is Pride. Internationally we are seen as one of the most progressive countries when it comes to LGBT rights. I hope we don’t get too many international visitors to witness what is turning out to be a big letdown.
I don’t for one moment think this problem is by coincidence. There are folk who don’t like us getting any good publicity and I can imagine the excuse around funding commitments to the Jubilee and Olympics has featured heavily in the shortfall..
Pity some are missing the opportunity that the spotlight has been on our capital for over a month and will remain so until the end of the olympics, apart for the eclipse that will will be happened during Pride!
The jubilee thing up the river in a downpour , with a few fishing trawlers was a joke, reminded me of the hype around the millennium fiasco. I can imagine the olympics opening and closing ceremonies being equally underwhelming, so the alternative funding will have been wasted. Anyhow , maybe its a blessing in disguise , there may be a decrease in the number of airheads that usually sprawl the streets, for their one day sense pride.
Instead of bitching and complaining if only people took direct action and challenged their employers and local authorities. There is too much malaise and disinterest in the fragmented LGBT community half are fed up of being the ones to fight and the other half live in a bubble thinking they have equality and couldn’t care for others who are oppressed, harassed, and subject to abuse. Personally I wish they’d cancel all the parties it’s not London Mardu Gras it’s Pride and it was started for political reasons. this year should be the kick it needs to get back to it’s roots and stop living outside its means.
it lost it way Steve I agree it should go BACK to grass roots
They cant even get a decent act to headline Pride – no disrespect to Ms Cox.
look at the number of ‘reported ‘ attacks on gay men most look the other way and do nothing
And get rid of those bloody whistles.
This is a shame and looks really bad on England as they are getting ready to host the Olympics! I can not believe the city/country would think this is acceptable!
what a complete balls up what about folk who are travelling down on coaches for the event how can you just change the time.
This whole thing with Pride really needs to be sorted shameful.
How embarrassing and for Pride London to go to the press and misrepresent the situation has done nothing but make matters worse and I find it hard to believe a word they say now.
Their accountants and board of directors have a lot to answer for.
I think we need to get the organisers of Amsterdam’s 5-day long Gay Pride festivals to take over the whole thing. They are famous for the well coordinated CanalParade, but they get massive media coverage, they organise debates, there are special events for ethnic minorities, families, religious groups. Not just a fancy dress parade, which is of zero interest to the mainstream media. I would like to know what the Pride committee have been planning in terms of highlighting LGBT issues in the media in the week leading up to the Saturday parade.
Here! Here! Well Said!!!
London Pride organisers failed…full stop!
This is an embarrassment. World Pride and it shows we can’t cope and in turn will put people coming here for any future Pride events in London.
A missed opportunity that does little for London when the eyes of the world will be firmly on us.
I absolutely agree. Its all very well saying its going to be the greatest show on Earth and we’re all going to get a goodie bag with plane ticket and jewellery to take hope after, but if you’re only got thirty quid to do it, it ain’t happening.
I assume there was a business plan, and I assume that somebody was looking at progress as the project moved on.
Therefore it seems more than a little odd that the Pride committee were decrying rumours that all wasn’t well only yesterday.
I’m assuming the ‘emergency’ meeting didn’t just pop out of thin air this morning, so its all looking to me like the organising committee are a bunch of losers who are happy to flush other people’s money down the toilet as they skip through cloud cuckoo land with gay abandon.
Over the years Pride has left a trail of unpaid bills behind it. I’m sorry to see its happened again this year
If only they would ban those deafening whistles as well, the whole thing might get back to something meaningful and pleasant to attend.
All the excuses and reasons given ignore the essential fact that the Pride committee left it until a week before Pride to let us know there was a problem.
We are not fools and it is a shambolic mess and the Pride Committee should not be looking to blame others for their mis-management.
And why should any group or gay celebrity, or one of Stonewall’s Top 100 companies bail out a Pride committee who have a lot to answer for.
Clearly now that it is scaled back we will have a union dominated political march interested in promoting the unions own agendas rather than what we want from Pride.
I’d like to see named people in the responses from Pride as I find the secrecy that has resulted in this last minute chaotic mess a disgrace.
I deejayed the BA float at London Prode and Brighton Pride for nothing in 2011. I did not charge then, nor would I ever dream of charging a fee for such an important event which incidentally involves hundreds of volunteers. We need to ask who it is that has been coining it at Pride. It’s a scandal.
In Toronto there will be 1 million people attending the parade this weekend and in 2014 World Pride is coming to town. How much bigger/more expensive will that be? Hopefully, they will learn from London’s mistakes and not repeat them.
Chance would be a fine thing. This isn’t the first London Pride disaster ….. or the last
This is exactly what happened to the Sydney Mardi Gras years ago.
Now it has more mainstream sponsors and organisations paying to put it on.
You might have to go down this paths well if you want to continue to have the pride.
But remember, once you do, your identity of who you are will be lost to the marketing force of a mainstream take over.
As with Sydney Mardi Gras. It has no meaning or relevance for us now.
First the Gay run London AIDS Charity UKC loses £150,000-00 on their 2005 Hero Awards (it cost £90,000-00) to close it down Trustees reported to DTI under Directors Disqualification Act Clients abandoned and left without support and then this. A community that abandons people living with HIV/AIDS in London – Welcome to the real London LGBT Community !!!!
Surely the Trustees of Crusaid London AIDS Charity that e-mailed their HIV return to work staff “pain & suffering to alot of people…get another job with a better employer” and paid them off to keep quiet with “charity” money could lead WORLD PRIDE this year ????
What a great London LGBT Community !!!!!!! Gay Shame all hushed up by the LGBT Media
After staff at Positive Nation in the last edition claim the “management of London AIDS Charity UKC were awarded £15,000-00 payrises” after losing £150k on the 2005 Hero Awards surely they would like to donate these “payrises” to Pride London their slogo was “we care do you” although their clients people living with HIV/AIDS in London all Abandoned when the charity collapsed.
Time to put your money where your mouth is ! ! ! ! ! !
Short fall of funding … 1 week before the event ! ! ! ! Thats when they realise that,— they have completely screw up – admit it at least instead of saying that they want to return to the roots of pride!
Well said, Peter!
Its a bloody shambles – and has been to be honest ever since the last free Pride on Clapham Common was so royally cocked up and then hijacked…
I own a gay hotel in Bournemouth – http://www.hamiltonhall.info and at no time have I been asked to offer anything to this event in the way oi financing. However small, surely a LGBT event needs to ask the LGBT community to pay towards it – and as the only MEN ONLY HOTEL IN BOURNEMOUTH and star of TV’s -03 IN A BED – we are well enough known to be known by the organizing committee and then they moan there is a short fall in funding.
Just like in years past, it seems these planning committees blame others when things go wrong and never take responsibility for their own lack of organizational skills, fund raising or anything else. I appreciate it is a lot of work, but how hard can it be to send out a cut and paste e mail to all gay venues asking for input and help.
Yet I got absolutely nothing at all.