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  1. Ah so its not strictly a ban on LGBT people – its a ban on people that they perceive to behave like their stereotypes of LGBT people.


    So would they let James Blunt, Simon Cowell or Ruby Wax in?

  2. maybe we should place on ban on monies to homophobes

  3. Perhaps it’s time we started to boycott goods from countries such as Kenya, as well as their tourist industries, including companies offering travel over there

  4. And the people who run the country wonder why the rest of the world consider their country to be backward, because of these issues!

  5. No surprise there. A ban on people who portray LGB stereotypes…. SMH. And trans people should be allowed to go to bars too. Well you can’t expect much from an African country, I don’t think there’s one civilized country over there. Not only is there nothing wrong with being LGB, but there’s nothing wrong with being feminine if you’re a man or masculine if you’re a woman. Kenya is a really homophobic country- not the worst, but it should not be a part of the UN or any other group (even sports), and countries should not be sending them money

    1. That includes not buying their products, selling products to them, visiting Kenya, etc

  6. Time the world commenced diplomatic sanctions to isolate nations who endorse such vile homophobia

  7. Christopher 20 Jun 2012, 12:28am

    As a person of the Commonwealth, I have to ask: What exactly did the British teach these African and Caribbean nations to make them so homophobic now? If indeed the current philosophies can be traced to the colonial era…

    As a Canadian who has a Jamaican best friend, he and I are both curious and perplexed… any serious ideas? I for one would like to learn.

    1. The herd instinct and tribalism are universal, and people who don’t fit in have always been marginalised. As a general rule I’d say the awareness and promotion of human rights comes as a result of not just the wealth of a country but the size and influence of its educated middle classes.

      And let’s not forget, you could have been thrown out of a bar if you were thought to be acting in a gay way in the UK (and I’m sure in Canada too) 30 years ago – and the police wouldn’t necessarily have been on your side as most of them are now.

    2. Spanner1960 20 Jun 2012, 2:35pm

      You tend to find the more primitive a people, the more reliant they are on spiritual and religious dogma. Africa also has very strong tribal ties, which do not span geographical borders but can cover vast swathes of the country, and each tribe has its own religious values, customs and cultures which are taught and enforced at an early age. Religion, spiritualism and many other traditions are social memes that get passed down through generations, and are incredibly difficult to eradicate, so even in modern advanced societies like USA, primitive beliefs and customs still hold very strong over many people.

  8. We all know that the anti-gay Christians from America and other countries are behind this anti -gay action. The anti-gay Christians want to do the same in America and other countries but they can’t do it because people are too intelligent to allow the Christians to get away with murder. Today when you hear bad things happening to gays anywhere know that there are anti-gay Christians hiding behind the actions that are anti-gay.

    1. Spanner1960 20 Jun 2012, 2:30pm

      They are behind *some* of the Christian homophobia. By no means all.
      Also, you forget that a large slice of Africa is actually Muslim.

      1. Only 11% of Kenyans are Muslim, however.

  9. GingerlyColors 20 Jun 2012, 7:09am

    Typical African country.

    1. Spanner1960 20 Jun 2012, 10:07am

      Precisely. I cannot think of a single gay-friendly country on the entire continent.
      And before somebody mentions South Africa, that is a double-edged sword and not as friendly as it is perceived; it is also pretty white-unfriendly as well.

      1. Being “white-unfriendly” is, of course, so very shocking in a world that’s hardly non-white-friendly, after all.

  10. I wonder how they would feel if elsewhere, a nation bans dark coloured skin people from bar because they look like black people. These people speak with impressive stupidity.

  11. Another piece of nasty stupidity in Africa. We should cut the aid and make clear that they get funds from civilised countries only when they adopt civlised behaviour. End of.

  12. Jesus moran 20 Jun 2012, 1:57pm

    How soon some blacks forgot how they used to be discriminated against sad so sad!!!!

    1. Just throw us all in together – we’re just one homogenous group without differences after all.

  13. Garry Cassell 20 Jun 2012, 3:14pm

    After the many years of giving these backward countries the millions of dollars to improve conditions for their people, now what do we see??? NO more $ from western countries..

    1. Just to act as Devil’s Advocate for a moment, might it be worth contemplating the many years of taking money from these ‘backward countries’ that might, just, explain why they’re so backward today? Or perhaps you think European 19c imperial expansion was purely for the benefit of the ‘backward’ races?

  14. I think what really pisses me off in these posts about homophobia in African countries is the way everyone dishes out the same tired, thinly-disguised racist remarks. In all the time PN have reported on these issues in Africa, not one person has addressed the plight of the LGBT people and the distress they must be in, simply because epopel on these boards don’t care – the’re black after all. Had this been a report on somewhere in Europe, we would have comments on how ‘misguided’ their leaders are and how we must help ‘our brothers and sisters’. Discrimination is a funny thing.

    1. Well said.

    2. Absolutely, Bob

      There are some really horrendous stories about homophobia in Africa – but there are some great stories too about homophobia being combatted.

      We concentrate too often on the actions of the homophobes (be they government, religious, both or otherwise) and not enough on the LGBT people themselves.

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