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Party whip withdrawn from Lord Maginnis over homophobic remarks

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  1. Good. Whilst the UUP might not be fully LGBT friendly, it’s at least placing itself as a mainstream party as opposed to its outright crazy fellow unionists the DUP.

  2. It sends a statement of disapproval, and that’s what was needed.

  3. Is that Lord Maginnis of the KFC party?

    1. !

      Or perhaps the Nasty Santa party.

  4. Nasty old dinosaur. Thank goodness his generation will soon die out.

    1. Cal – ‘his generation’ is many of our parents or grandparents, whose death you say you are so looking forward to. Just because Maginnis is a nasty old bigot does not mean all of his generation share his views – there are many his age and older who are passionately committed to equality for all. There are also a great many of your generation who are nasty homophobes so does this mean people older or younger than you should look forward to your generation ‘dying out’ too?

      1. Although surveys continually show that it is the older generation – like Maginnis – who are the most bigoted when it comes to LGBT people.

        Don’t try to pretend that Maginnis is an exception – particularly in Northern Ireland where men of his political beliefs and age are generally the most horrifically bigoted people around.

      2. Spanner1960 18 Jun 2012, 3:20pm

        Maybe they are a younger generation that picked it up from their nasty homophobic grandfathers. ;)

  5. I’m really surprised at this! It puts some of the main parties to shame for letting MPs and MSPs spout homophobia without doing anything about it.

    1. It does.

      Cameron could learn a lot about tackling some of the homophobes in his party eg McCartney, Dorries, Gale, Burrowes and Bone

      Shame Cameron isnt as forward thinking as the UUP on the issue of appropriate behaviour by members

  6. The man’s party denied my grandparents the right to vote because they were Catholic and Irish and if he had his way he would deny our rights because we are gay. Out and out bigot.

    1. Paddyswurds 17 Jun 2012, 9:39pm

      Same here but I must add that it was with the tacit approval of the British government at Westminster.

  7. Paddyswurds 17 Jun 2012, 9:36pm

    It’s as if there really is a sky fairy and it is thoroughly on our side and is lining these idiots up to make utter fools of themselves and the organisations they represent.All trhis blatant homophobic bigotry is so extreme that no sensible person of faith or atheism could possibly agree with their irrational rants. I think we have this Marriage Equality thing in the bag and they know it, hence the utter desperation of their rants……
    Removing the whip is really only a damp squib and this dinosaur Maginnis will be back spouting his homophobia along with the other backwoods inbreds in his party.

    1. Removing the party whip might not be much but it’s still something. Some of the other parties, like the Tories and SNP, have done nothing at all when their MPs/MSPs have made homophobic statements.

  8. Paddyswurds 17 Jun 2012, 9:50pm

    Fortunately not everyone in N. Irish politics is as big a dinosaur or as backward as those in the stories on the current PN homepage Sinn Fein has a totally different view of our needs but will have an uphill battle getting agreement with these hicks;

    1. That There Other David 17 Jun 2012, 10:01pm

      Not just Sinn Fein. The UUP and DUP are increasingly isolated in their Puritanical views. The world would be a nicer place if both parties just disappeared.

    2. Well done Sinn Fein. They have come a long way. Ulster is not the easiest place to cultivate open minds so I am doubly impressed by this statement.

  9. Doesn’t it all sound a bit familiar, i.e. Iris Robinson. I wonder if he likes butchers and sausages as well.

    1. That There Other David 17 Jun 2012, 10:03pm

      Biggest aspect of that story, conveniently forgotten, is that Iris was taking backhanders from financial supporters in exchange for planning approval. The DUP is corrupt to the core. Why people vote for these shagsacks is anyones’ guess.

  10. I wrote to him!

    Your views are from the stone age.

    You’re a ridiculously petty and small minded man. I’m ashamed to share my nationality with you.

    Gay people deserve equality.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

    Nick Smith

    this is the reply…


    Your ability to express yourself reflects your ability to think – your inability to think inhibits your
    competence in understanding and your lack of understanding diminishes your contribution to the social and moral interests of our society.

    I doubt you share anything with me.


    The Lord Maginnis of Drumglass
    Ph: +44(0)77-6776-3763

    To: “”
    Sent: Sunday, 17 June 2012, 19:54
    Subject: you’re wrong…

    1. Nick

      You expressed the views of many right minded people with perfect clarity.

    2. Bloody hell, what a cheeky bugger! This bigoted old duffer should be kicked out of the Lords as well as his party. He clearly thinks he’s better than us gays, or maybe he thinks he’s better than everyone. What an arrogant wanker!

  11. if he considers them the same, then whats the problem?

  12. Jock S. Trap 18 Jun 2012, 11:02am

    Good but not enough!

    His remarks were disgusting and he shouldn’t be having any influence at all.

  13. It is possible to have this Maginnis pig (no offence intended towards pigs by linking them to Maginnis by the way) removed from the House of Lords, completely?

    He is right when he says that removing the party whip from a cross party peer is utterly meaningless.

    The House of Lords unless they expel this sickening bigot is showing yet again how undemocratic, out of touch and ridiculous it is in the 21st century.

    How can we get this Maginnis extremist removed from the House of Lords?

    Oh and note by the way that the UUP do not support marriage equality.

    In Northern Ireland politics unionism is just another word for homophobic bigotry.

    1. I wish it were easily possible to expel a member of the Lords for behaviour such as this.

      However, an Act of Parliament is needed to expel a peer who is not disqualified for any of the following reasons:

      * Retirement of a Bishop who is a member of the House of Lords and who has not been made a life Peer.
      * Disqualification temporarily due to being an elected member of the Commons or European Parliament
      * Being declared bankrupt
      * Convicted of Treason under the Forfeiture Act 1870 until he or she has either suffered his or her term of imprisonment or received a pardon
      * Holding judicial office

      Although all but 92 heredictory peers were removed by teh Hosue of Lords Act 1999; the last time an act was passed to remove particular individuals from the House of Lords was in 1917, where two peers were deprived of their writ of summons as a result of supporting “the King’s enemies” during the First World War.

      The Committeeof Priviledges for the Lords recently concluded that although the

    2. House is able to suspend its Members, the House has no power, by resolution, to require that the Writ of Summons be withheld from a Member otherwise entitled to receive it. The Writ of Summons is the document which calls the Member to the House and acts as their ‘entry ticket’ to the House of Lords. A new writ is issued for every Member at the beginning of each Parliament. A writ accompanies the Letters Patent which create the life peerage to a new Member. The House therefore cannot expel a Member permanently, and cannot suspend a Member for longer that the remainder of the current Parliament.

  14. I think that being gay and from a unionist background in Northern Ireland must be extremely difficult.

  15. Fat lot of use withdrawing the Whip will make – he should have been unceremoniously booted out of the Party.

    1. I agree. I did not expect the UUP to make this step though – its notable that its on a LGBT issue. Surprsing.

      Good they have acted. Good that its progress.

      Not far enough though.

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