Back in the 1950′s when I was a cub scout, then a boy scout, then an explorer scout, the word “gay” in every day usage had not been evolved to mean homosexual. And the word “straight” also did not have anything to do with sexuality at the time the Boy Scout oath was developed. Their position against gay and lesbian members and leaders is totally bogus when based on the “oath.”
The idea that gay people are two-headed monsters that prey on Boy Scouts must be got out of everybody’s head.
I’m sure that if Lord Baden-Powell was alive today he will be happy to accept gays into his movement.
In the UK, and in many other countries around the world, LGBT people are welcome in Scouting. The UK Scout Association has a support network for LGBT leaders.
What’s the big problem with the boys? The Girl Scouts accept any girl who wants to join and/or be a leader. Heck, if all the lesbians left, they’d lose half their members! I was a girl scout back in the 1950′s… it was never a problem then and it’s not a problem now. So, what’s up with the guys?
Indeed, it is losing its cultural relevancy, at an increasingly rapid pace. It’s been losing it for a long time. It only represents the right side of the political aisle. Scouts should be for people regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof, or of sexual orientation.
Duncan Hill wrote: “In the UK, and in many other countries around the world, LGBT people are welcome in Scouting. The UK Scout Association has a support network for LGBT leaders.”
The original BSA organization was not homophobic and did not kick out gay boy scouts or leaders for that matter. In 1978 Texas christian fundamentalist and LSD Mormons took over the organization and imposed their religious dogma on everyone and that is when the organization began to discriminate against gay scouts and leaders. And yes it is a crass misinterpretation of the scout oath when they give a sexual orientation definition to the term “morally straight” which never had that conotation until after the take over.
They are not Americans these people who call themselves Boy Scouts as long as they discriminate against LGBT people. America is about equality and Civil Rights and Justice not hate and persecution of others based on their sexuality. We just have to fight to get our rights like the black slaves who rose up to get their freedom and Civil Rights today.
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Back in the 1950′s when I was a cub scout, then a boy scout, then an explorer scout, the word “gay” in every day usage had not been evolved to mean homosexual. And the word “straight” also did not have anything to do with sexuality at the time the Boy Scout oath was developed. Their position against gay and lesbian members and leaders is totally bogus when based on the “oath.”
The idea that gay people are two-headed monsters that prey on Boy Scouts must be got out of everybody’s head.
I’m sure that if Lord Baden-Powell was alive today he will be happy to accept gays into his movement.
Yes, especially since he was gay!
In the UK, and in many other countries around the world, LGBT people are welcome in Scouting. The UK Scout Association has a support network for LGBT leaders.
What’s the big problem with the boys? The Girl Scouts accept any girl who wants to join and/or be a leader. Heck, if all the lesbians left, they’d lose half their members! I was a girl scout back in the 1950′s… it was never a problem then and it’s not a problem now. So, what’s up with the guys?
America is the problem! In many states gay men and women can still be refused a job based on their sexuality, which in the 21 century is shameful!
Many Americans still thank that being gay equates to being a peadophile, which we all know is so far from the truth.
Always amazed at how backward they are in the states at times.
Indeed, it is losing its cultural relevancy, at an increasingly rapid pace. It’s been losing it for a long time. It only represents the right side of the political aisle. Scouts should be for people regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof, or of sexual orientation.
Duncan Hill wrote: “In the UK, and in many other countries around the world, LGBT people are welcome in Scouting. The UK Scout Association has a support network for LGBT leaders.”
Quite right, but not if they are atheists.
And as a private organization it is perfectly within it’s rights to exclude anyone for any reason it chooses.
The original BSA organization was not homophobic and did not kick out gay boy scouts or leaders for that matter. In 1978 Texas christian fundamentalist and LSD Mormons took over the organization and imposed their religious dogma on everyone and that is when the organization began to discriminate against gay scouts and leaders. And yes it is a crass misinterpretation of the scout oath when they give a sexual orientation definition to the term “morally straight” which never had that conotation until after the take over.
atheists are welcome in the UK Scout Association. It is a popular misconception that they are not.
Allowing tuchas bandits in the Boy Scouts would help scouting in what way?
Using derogative terms helps a discussion in what way?
They are not Americans these people who call themselves Boy Scouts as long as they discriminate against LGBT people. America is about equality and Civil Rights and Justice not hate and persecution of others based on their sexuality. We just have to fight to get our rights like the black slaves who rose up to get their freedom and Civil Rights today.