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New York court: Not slander to falsely call someone ‘gay’

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  1. Godwyns O. 1 Jun 2012, 12:34am

    Very wise indeed. Well done Justice Thomas Mercure.

  2. Archbishop Cranberry 1 Jun 2012, 1:14am

    We had a ruling like this in England several years ago.

  3. The CIA and US government secret services and military use black propaganda as a part of there psychological warfare to degrade their enemies. For example calling a Muslim as gay person which is a big insult to them and the CIA know this.

    1. Rayne Van-Dunem 1 Jun 2012, 1:50am

      I know I’m doing no one any favors favors by replying to this because Pat’s comment just smells like a badly-concocted conspiracy theory. But why would the CIA and US government NOT try to degrade their enemies? I would degrade and eviscerate my enemies if I had the chance and weaponry.

      1. I agree with you, If the CIA’s enemies are stupid or irrationally prejudiced enough to believe that being gay is wrong or negative then that is their fault not the CIA and they deserve it. If they want to use someone’s hatred of me as a weapon against them well fill your boots is my response.

        I think the ruling in New York is a very real sign of progress just like the removal of the “gay defence”.

  4. Spanner1960 1 Jun 2012, 8:05am

    I had to read the heading twice for it to sink in.

    I realise as to why this judgement was made, but I am still not 100% sure. This will prevent people claiming to have been slurred by the term, but equally, it also means that others could bandy the word about freely – “Oh, that’s SO gay!” etc. which rather diminishes the label and makes gay people appear inferior.

    Answers on a postcard please.

    1. Midnighter 1 Jun 2012, 12:07pm

      This doesn’t concern the pejorative usage, just the claim that someone is attracted to the same sex.

      So for instance you could now call out a homophobe and suggest they are gay and repressed, and they couldn’t use law against you.

    2. You can’t legislate against words changing or altering meaning, so unfortunately there’s nothing (legal) you can do about gay=rubbish usage. At least this judgment underlines the belief that there’s nothing insulting about being called gay, even if inaccurately.

    3. Slander is very different to hate crime. Only one of them seems to have been affected by this judgement.

  5. Progress is progress! Fantastic news!

  6. What happens when his ‘girlfriend’ finds out he is gay? I mean if he’s so afraid of being called it, there must be some truth to it. We all know homophobes are just gays in the closet.

    1. It’s not necessarily homophobic to resent being called gay if you actually aren’t. People don’t like being labelled Conservatives/Republicans if they’re not, either – it doesn’t make them rabid Marxists.

  7. I’m gay and i call things and people gay all the time… doesn’t matter to me anymore. People need to stop taking everything so personally.

  8. Great – the right call

  9. This wasn’t even on my radar but I’m super glad that it’s happened. Another step in the right direction New York!!!

  10. Right On !! Now we’re getting somewhere ! Keep up the pressure.

  11. To be fair It is good in one way as it gives homosexual people a right to be able to feel comfortable in their own skins & not be branded HOWEVER some may not think this a labelling calling them Gay as it who they are…which promotes diversity

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