Well done France on moving so quickly on this issue. Kind of brings shame on the UK government on why they should take so long here?
We already have equal marriage and adoption laws. We can adopt, they can’t. It’s just that we also have apartheid.
We have equal marriage here in the UK? That’s news to me !
seperate but equal
I wouldn’t say they moved THAT quickly. Homosexuality has been legal in France for 221 years since the law was changed in 1791 following the French Revolution but gays there are still waiting to make that final step into full equality. Here we have enjoyed legal status for 45 years and gay marriage is on the cards in the UK.
Champagne socialists like to talk a lot, I wouldn’t cheer until we can see legislation.
Looks like they will beat us to it. Damn those Frenchies!
Let’s hope this can happen before the end of the year. It will be an influential change within Europe. Luxebourg needs to pull their finger out and hurry up with their legislation which seems to have been kicked into the long grass. Marriage equality should come to Denmark this month.
Pink News is missing a story about marriage equality in Nepal, which was due to come in today, as the Supreme Court had ordered that it be included in the new constitution. The government could not agree the new constitution and has collapsed in chaos with a Supreme Court judge being shot dead. Hopefully the hope for equal marriage in this key country will not be lost…
Where can we find out more about the Nepal story? All I can find is that a judge was shot dead who was being investigated for letting some kidnappers off lightly.
I don’t know where BUT the constitutional assembly did not produce a new constitution so it was dissolved and new elections are expected this autumn.
That’s how to do it.
Within a month of the elections there is substantive progress on marriage equality.
And the ConDem coalition has been in power for 2 years and the absurdly offensive ‘consultation on equality’ is still happening.
If France can introduce marriage equality this year then there is absolutely no excuse why the same cannot happen in Britain.
This is great news. Obama and now Jean-Marc. More pressure on Dave to follow through to legislation.
Puts us to shame, no question about it. Well done France, now let’s see it happen soon. Our consultation was completely unnecessary. The groundwork has already been done with the introduction of CPs and let’s keep in mind, the oppposition keeps insisting they are equal to marriage so the question of how to introduce equal marriage is a nonstarter. There is absolutely NO excuse why it can’t be introduced this year, absolutely NONE.
Makes you wonder why the UK can’t do it more quickly!
but then again why should it take long…can’t be the most difficult piece of legislation to work out?
“Makes you wonder why the UK can’t do it more quickly!”
Here’s a clue – the Tory Party, and the fact that the homophobic cult of England is allowed to meddle in our democracy due to the incomplete separation of church and state in the UK
If only we had France’s civil marriage law. France also has no state religion although the overwhelming cult is roman catholicism. A much better way for democracy to work in my view. About time clergy were banned from the House of Lords once and for all. None of those in the upper chamber are elected and even if the intended reforms to make it more accountable to the electorate succeed, it would eliminate the Parliament Act unfortunately. The Commons is where legislation is passed and it should be the only body to do so, similar to New Zealand’s system.
The left is in power.
This was nice to read, it’s always nice to see countries making progress.
Vive la France!
They have to do it quickly if at all, before the Muslim contingent in the government’s ranks stamps all over it. I’m not holding my breath, any more than I am that Cameron will stick to his word here.
Unlike in Britain there is a complete separation of church and state in France – religious marriages have no legal standing in France – marriage is done in the town hall only.
The ‘muslim’ contingent (as you so charmingly call them) will not be allowed to use religion to oppose marriage equality, because in France, marriage is not a religious institution.
I can’t see why you’re so defensive about ‘Muslim contingent’ when you are hopping up and down every day about Christianity in the UK and elsewhere. Either you are an atheist (as I am) or you are not – and as the former you are more at risk from Islam than you are from Christianity. And I’m not talking about your back-up or foundational technicalities – I’m simply referring to enough pressure applied for a law not to be passed at all. If laws were separate from religious influence, France wouldn’t just now be considering new equality laws.
Hopefully, you can understand that.
Civil Marriage in UK means you are Married when in France- but just having a UK Civil Partnership means you are NOT MARRIED when in France. Marriage is portable- all over the world- Civil Partnerships just give you rights in the UK. THAT’S what’s wrong with Civil Partnerships!!!!!
If you fail to deliver Monsieur Ayrault, I will personally hunt you down and glitter bomb you to within a metric cm of your life. And you will be glad i didn’t send my French “non-wife” who is much more to the point than I am…
Like I said earlier: Liberté, égalité, fraternité, amour !
5 countries in Europe including – Denmark, Luxembourg, France, United Kingdom and Finland have some sort of proposed law pending, ready and waiting to get passed by their own parliaments (that will legally allow same sex marriage). That means by 2015, all of Western Europe will have same sex marriage. Portugal is weirder strange because even though same sex marriage is legal, adoption and IVF access is still illegal for same sex couples! Strange adoption and IVF laws indeed they have in Portugal hey? It does get better, things are getting better!
However, Germany will not have same sex marriage for a while yet, as the Christian Democratic Party are in power (the opposition in Germany Social Democrats Party support same sex marriage)!
Perhaps the western end of Europe would be a better way of describing it, as most people would regard Italy and Switzerland as part of Western Europe! (Also ignoring a significant number of small countries and jursidications like Lichtenstein, Andorra, Jersey, Man etc) But I agree with your positive overview!
… and Ireland of course!
Ireland have marriage equality in their current program of government.
Fantastic! It is a bold move and is welcome as is all progress on Our People being free and equal in all lands…..even a small step is still a step, we must remember this truth but never accept second class citizenship in any country….ever…..