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Comment: David Cameron has to press ahead on marriage equality, and so do we

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  1. This is Davis Cameron’s chance to get a good notice in the history books. Let’s face it, not much else the coalition government is doing is going to be particularly worthy of remembrance.

    1. Sorry, David, not ‘Davis’! Should have gone for ‘Callmedave’!

  2. Lynne Featherstone seems hellbent on getting this through anyway and rightly so!

    David Cameron cannot and should not abandon this issue now as it would be seen as a waste of money, as the consultation itself is probably costing a lot of money!

    1. Lynne Featherstone is a goddess on earth as far as I’m concerned. What a great next leader of the LibDems she would be (not that I want Cleggover to go, just when the time comes).

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 17 May 2012, 7:29pm

      I doubt if he’ll cave in not with a potential defeat in 2015. The Tories need every gay vote they can get judging from the dismal turnout in 2010. They don’t even have a majority in Parliament.

  3. Absolutely.

    This is exactly the sort of strong, energised statement we need to be making.

    The comparison to Prop 8 is very apt, even without a public vote. We can still win this, but we are going to have to get out there and work for it – not just by reminding the government how much support there is for equality, but also by winning over the “movable middle” of public opinion, reminding them that this is about love.

  4. My MP is Tim Loughton (Con) who cannot bring himself to refer to these moves as “marriage equality”, only as “gay marriage”. I made points directly to him solely about the status of trans people, which he didn’t seem bothered to read, citing in a stock response that his church marriage 20 years ago meant so much to him that marriage must forever be in accordance with the church view of “one man and one woman”. What’s his religion got to do with the inequity (iniquity) of forcing divorce on long-standing marriages where a partner transitions? It’s a far better paradigm than many adulterous relationships MPs and Lords get into.

  5. Robert in S. Kensington 17 May 2012, 2:27pm

    Good article, Adrian. It emphasises much of what I’ve been saying for quite some time. We and our supporters need to be more persistent and louder than the opposition. I want to see more MPs confronting the hypocrisy and bigotry head-on, more proactivism. I want to see major luminaries in the UK entertainment world do their part, so far none. I wouldn’t call The Saturdays major luminaries. I want to see the Out4Marriage videos diffused on t.v. It can’t all be done online and where is StonewallUK lately? Deafeningly silent.

  6. Robert in S. Kensington 17 May 2012, 2:32pm

    Check this video out!

  7. The rally? We really do need a big public show of support. We need images the media can use. We need tactics from the Prop 8 fight.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 17 May 2012, 3:27pm

      Yes, the Prop 8 produced a lot of Hollywood stars supporting the overturn. Meanwhile, we in the UK have nobody of that stature supporting our own fight. Where are when we need them?

  8. What part of “kick into the long, far away, distant, forgotten grass” did you not understand Adrian?

    1. The ‘electable’ part I would guess…

    2. That’s why I’m writing this, to mobilise you, so that it doesn’t, Beberts! X

      (I’m also writing this to provoke a reaction from the Aidens, Christian Concerns and other loons of course).

      1. Very thoughtful for the second part, but the first is a waste of time, since the real gravity of the problem is we are living under a government that has never really intended to legislate marriage equality. We are deeply double deeply unlikely to get anything out of this lot. We are already running at full speed and pressing the powers that be, and they are giving us their same usual and expected cold shoulder. No surprises there. Only the Alices amongst us, living in wonderland, would believe for a moment that this lot has, had or will have good intentions. Some gay others, also living amongst us are the complete opposite, thinking about their financial kicks, so they are prone to cheer up the homophobes so they can keep buying champagne with money stolen from the old, the sick and the poor. Still nothing new there… since they never really cared…

  9. More militant crap from Adrian Tippetts.

    I’m with Tim Loughton & Philip Hammond on this. Called has called off ‘same sex marriage for now’. It’ll slip away quietly.

    #WDAMH

    1. Thanks as always for taking the time and trouble to air your views, Aiden.

    2. Robert in S. Kensington 17 May 2012, 7:27pm

      Poor deluded Aiden. The same nonsense that Loughton and Hammond espouse was said in the ten countries that have introduced it. The reason morons like you come here proves how desperate you are because you know equal marriage is coming and there’s NOTHING you can do about it. I suggest you get ready to leave the UK. Russia is a wonderful place for retarded people like you.

  10. GulliverUK 17 May 2012, 7:43pm

    That was a great article – I’d really like to see you write more often.

    Right-wing Tories, and right-wing commentators/papers, like the Mail, Telegraph, often cite things are ‘going to happen’, or ‘not going to happen’, based on their desire, rather than an evidence. We had Bill Cash well over a year ago telling us the Human Rights Act was going to be abolished and replaced, even though the government said that was on indefinite hold, and now it’s come back again – but we’re none the wiser. There are mutterings it will ‘definitely’ happen, to ‘it will not happen’ because the LibDems will not let it happen. It’s all speculation.

    Cameron would look incredibly silly if he did abandon it, and I don’t believe he has any intention of doing that. It’s just right-wing idiots trying to pretend they can dictate policy. There would also be a serious backlash – there are 3 London Pride events between now and 2015 !!! We should be militant – flashmob anyone? :)

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 17 May 2012, 8:38pm

      It also has to do with denial by the right wingers. They know it’s coming hence their spurious, irrational rants and they know there’s not much they can really do about it because they’re in the minority. They’ve done this in every country where equal marriage has been introduced. Its identical to the resistance to CPs if you remember, same mantras, armageddon, the destruction of marriage and society and all of the other hysterics and nonsense.

      Flashmob sounds a good idea too! Quite novel for an equality event.

  11. Paddyswurds 17 May 2012, 10:33pm

    I have deep suspicion that the whole consultation thing will be used by CallmeDave to call off the proposals, by saying that the results indicated that Gay people weren’t really in favour or that we really saw any great urgency in such a move.
    A consultation was completely unnecessary and the bill should have been tabled months ago without it.

  12. gattagiudecca 18 May 2012, 3:05am

    This is an excellent article! It’s about time the message was put across so forcefully. I am fed up being nicey-nicey about it all. The coalition government where all fanfares and “we love the gays” when they formed their government. I gave them the benefit of the doubt. It’s 2 years later and nothing has changed. I’m fed up hearing “just calm down – don’t you worry – we love the gays – it is going to happen”. Just bloody well do it!

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