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North Carolina: Anti-gay amendment leading in polls

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  1. Is anyone surprised? Makes me wish I could take that Constitutional document they pretend to worship and rip it up. And why not? They bloody do.

    “We the people” means ALL of the people.

    The US is a bloody joke. It’s not too bad on the coasts but in the middle and in the south its a festering pit of racism and homophobia and knuckle-dragging stupidity.

    1. Paddyswurds 7 May 2012, 4:55pm

      The amendment is to the State constitution, not the US constitution. A single state cannot make amendments to the US constitution. That has to be Voted on by al 50 states.

      1. Paddyswurds 7 May 2012, 4:56pm

        …and this particular bit of odious bigotry will become null and void when Obama ratify s Marriage Equality next year…..

        1. theGentleWarrior 7 May 2012, 10:41pm

          @Paddyswurds will you ever read and get your facts before righting.

          President Obama will ratify nothing. Have you forgotten that he defended DOMA.

          When the Supreme Court rules on Massachusetts v. United States Department of Health and Human Services ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_v._United_States_Department_of_Health_and_Human_Services ) we expect it to rule for Massachusetts resulting in DOMA being declared unconstitutional.

          Then federal Marriage will be available to all.

          And it’s not a forgone conclusion that we will suffer a second term of Obama. We could get lucky, he could be a one term president.

          1. Five countries yet, because this year can still have Denmark, and Finland Luxembourg.
            In the coming years, we have France, UK, Ireland, Germany and who knows Until the Czech republic, as in the U.S. … Nothing…If we speak only of Civil Union, then the whole europe offers

            As the court’s decision, the better you read the decision, and not what the Daily Mail wrote

          2. Paddyswurds 8 May 2012, 12:33pm

            You sir are a liar. President Obama declared the DOMA would no longer be defended by the Federal government.
            And btw, it is write not right. Who is it you would rather get the presidency if not Obama… the moron, i mean Mormon Mit Romney.. really. That’s how little you think of the US that you would see it destroyed by xtian fundies and assorted crazies the likes of Mit Romney. How sad are you???

      2. Yes. I know. But State constitutions are supposed to be made within the framework of the US Constitution and this change would be a direct and explicit contravention of the 14th Amendment. States are expressly instructed to provide equality under the law under the Equal Protection Clause.

        1. Paddyswurds 7 May 2012, 8:33pm

          Sadly oft ignored unless someone lodges a complaint with the supreme court and the it will usually be ruled incompatible. These anti marriage equality are usually ignored with the expectation that there will eventually be a Federal amendment which always trumps state laws.

  2. Sometimes we can become quite comfortable in our bubble that we have achieved equality for all LGBT people.
    Rights that have been hard fought for can easily be taken away if we do nothing to to defend them.
    Reading a host of articles on here it is clear that inter atop atop al we are nowhere near having equality and this is not just in the developing world. In the West what was only recently celebrated as moving forward is being eroded from our rights and domestically entitlements such has equal recognition of our relationships on a power with marriage is nowhere near being a given.
    I have been involved in this fight and will continue to be vigilant, I have never campaigned for LGBT rights everything I have been campaigning for is Equal Rights and the entitlement to the protection and access to what everyone else in society enjoys.

    1. Agreed.

      And this is partly why I am so angry and annoyed that movements like Pride, which began as a politicised event, is now just an excuse for a drunken p!ss-up. And so many people are so bloody passive and only get excited over this weeks episode of whatever facile talent show is on.

      It’s like our community has forgotten how to stand up for itself and for others around the world. There have always been those who carry more than their share on their shoulders, but the situation is becoming acute and it worries the heck out of me.

  3. Tyranny by the majority. The religious right will soon be advocating inquisitions if we don’t forcefully resist their insanity!

  4. Yes tiptop- and if people like Nadine Dorries, Edward Lee, Gary streeter can successfully stop Gay Marriage- their next target will be Civil Patnerships.

  5. Land of the free. Wonderful.

    1. Well yeah. The USA is great on paper, but it’s mostly lip service.

      1. theGentleWarrior 7 May 2012, 11:18pm

        Well I count;
        6 states with equal marriage in the US.
        2 States awaiting the laws to come in to effect;Washington (June 7, 2012) · Maryland (January 1, 2013)
        1 District
        and California has a stay in effect while awaiting Supreme Court ruling.

        As for Europe I count 5 (5 being less than 6) Countries. Oh and the European Court Of Human Rights found that same-sex marriage is not a human right and concluded that “if gay couples are allowed to marry, any church that offers weddings will be guilty of discrimination if it declines to marry same-sex couples.”
        -Is that your one of your highest courts protecting churches instead of humans?
        -Was this a proud moment as Europeans for you?

        And in the United Kingdom, talk, promises, plans, but no gay marriage yet. Talking about creating legislation 8 years after Massachusetts found equal marriage constitutional and protected as such.

        Forget about ‘on paper’, you are not looking so shinny in reality.

        1. Christopher 8 May 2012, 2:49am

          You really have insecurity issues. Once you accept that the US is not the bastion of hope as written on the base of the Statue of Liberty, the better off you will be, and will stop attacking others in other nations for only pointing out truth.

          1. “You really have insecurity issues.”

            You said it.

            And you should see the racist twaddle this muppet posts on other sites. The rainbow colours on this avatar are a joke, I assume.

        2. We don’t have a Constitutional document that we worship one minute and then scrub our boots on the next. Nor do we crow about being the “best”, which is common for the US. And it’s 90% bullsh!t.

  6. I don’t believe it.

    Amendment One will be put down.

  7. Individual rights should not be subjected to a public vote in the case of minorities. Mob rule is always madness toward minorities and it is not real justice. No justice no peace!

  8. The mob is coming out of the mob closet to hang gay blacks and anyone like them, that is what they do in America, in the white Christian terrorist south.

  9. If the law passes then for same-sex couples who either want civil unions or marriage, then there will be only one option, leave North Carolina! There are many other states in the USA where equal rights are being instigated. Sell up, remove your financial support for North Carolina and go where you are wanted and respected.!

  10. Dennis Battler 8 May 2012, 2:21pm

    all the accurate points covered … good points all pointing to the “trojan horse tricks of the teaparty” to divide and discrimate
    Clergy Rebukes Media for Asking Wrong Questions About Amendment One
    http://www.youtube.com
    May 6th, 2012 – In a press conference held in Greensboro, North Carolina, Clergy from around the state gathered together to pray for the wisdom of it’s citiz…

  11. Gay & Happy 9 May 2012, 2:51am

    I wonder what the average IQ is of the “Yes” voters. Anyway, I’ll take a setback there if we can just triumph here in the UK and keep making gains at the federal level in the US. Backward states like North Carolina will of course dig their heels in, but in the end, the genie is out of the bottle, reason is on our side, and no-one will be able to stop progress on this issue, no matter how spitefully obsessed they are with doing so.

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