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Boris Johnson: No separate LGBT manifesto and no answers to PinkNews readers’ questions

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  1. Surprise, surprise (!)

    1. I am not surprised that the promise to produce an LGBT manifesto has been kicked into the long grass.
      My sources confirm that Boris wants to show Cameron that you can promise the LGBT something and then kick it into the long grass and it would not affect your votes.

      If Boris does win, Cameron is would then have no fear in kicking the gay marriage proposal into the long grass

      1. Spanner1960 3 May 2012, 10:16am

        You have enough long grass there to make a Hawaiian skirt.

  2. Not interested in talking to GBLT people but he’ll take the votes anyway, then?

  3. Disappointing.

    Shows Boris does not care one jot for LGBT people.

    1. LGBTLondonequality 2 May 2012, 11:55pm

      Criticising other people only serves to lessen you in the eyes of others. Enjoy being straight – good for you. But please stop projecting your own homophobia out onto us – we have enough of that to deal with at work, at school and on the streets from people like you. It is exactly because you cannot see how bigotry shapes our experience of the world that you make the flimsy arguments you do (can you find anti-heterosexual discrimination which compares to the violent homophobia and transphobia which has led to the murder of four gay men and two trans women in the capital in the past five years and which still makes life a misery for many children in London’s schools?). Give respect and you will earn it back.

    2. Still in the closet Aiden jeeez? Oh well moving on.

    3. only because racist homophobic bigots like you seek to oppress and suppress us.

    4. Of course he does’nt. He attended a program in a church where he explained why he stopped the ex-gays bus ads and confirmed that there is NO way he would prepare a separate manifesto for LGBT when he does not have a separate manifesto for the Christians that he needs the most.

      The reason is obvious. Christians are more concerned with what they can do for society rather than what society can do for them. On the other hand, LGBT is all about what the government and the politicians can do for them. They are all about give us this give us that give us all. Even if it is me, I would ignore such a group because they would never stop asking

      1. That There Other David 3 May 2012, 10:34am

        Your perceptions on this issue are widely distorted. Due to history Christians occupy a privileged position within the political establishment of this country. Unfortunately they wish to use that position in order to deny equality to a significant minority group, namely LGBT people.

        When LGBT people in the UK have equal rights we will quite happily shut up and stop lobbying for more. At the moment we don’t have that, so of course we’re going to keep asking. We don’t want all, we just want the same as everyone else has. That should not anger you, even if you find it difficult to empathise.

        As for what we give to society, do you seriously believe we exist outside of the communities we live in, and that we each live selfish isolated lives? If so, you need to open your eyes. We are as much part of the community as any other social group, and we contribute just as much. The fact you don’t notice us doing it is because LGBT people come in all shapes and sizes, including Christians.

    5. That There Other David 3 May 2012, 10:37am

      Right, so from that we can deduce that “Aiden” doesn’t actually know any LGBT people.

      Didn’t take Sherlock Holmes to work that one out….

  4. GulliverUK 2 May 2012, 10:39pm

    All I saw was;
    I will not tolerate any form of bullying whether in the workplace,schools or elsewhere; and call on boroughs to be vigilant about this
    – I will continue to support projects like the FIT DVD to secondary schools as a resource to combat
    homophobic bullying.
    – I will continue to support events like Pride, and ensure the LGBT community are part of the Cultural
    Olympiad.

    There are the Gay Olympics, employment protections allow us to sue if discriminated against, and it is Michael Gove’s responsibility to sort out homophobic bullying in every educational establishment that received ANY tax-payer funding.
    What about not cutting HIV services? And when he says support PRIDE, does he mean he will put back the money he cut? This is WAAAAAY too little. I will be not be voting for him – mind you, I had no intention of doing so anyway. Greens or LibDems 1st, with Ken 2nd. That way I register my support for them, but Ken will get the votes and do an ok job.

    1. Green Party 1st. Ignore Lib Dems; they are “flavour of the month.” Ken 2nd.

  5. Paddyswurds 2 May 2012, 10:39pm

    @Boris…
    …..the world is well and truly amazed ….. at your dis-ingenuity and cynicism. Brilliant vote getting move.??
    No you have just proved that you are well inside the Law and Justice Homophobic Tory agenda. We all hope Call me Dave is suitably proud of you

  6. MyLyricalDreams 2 May 2012, 10:45pm

    And yet HIS campaign adverts are plastered all over the Pink News webpage….

    Disgusting.

    1. Spanner1960 3 May 2012, 10:18am

      If you read the article you would see that is because he paid for them.

  7. We need a segregated manifesto do we? What’s wrong with LGBT policies within a broader framework? Seems more inclusive to me.

    1. Then why did he promise a separate manifesto, if he wasn’t going to deliver it. We didn’t ask for it, HE offered and then couldn’t be bothered.

      1. LGBTLondonequality 2 May 2012, 11:45pm

        And Boris only offered it because he was asked about it at the Stonewall Hustings (watch it here – 1:00:14 in) and he has been cynically milking positive coverage in the pink press ever since. Boris has nothing to offer LGBT Londoners.

        Ken has been clear – he has produced a detailed and extensive LGBT Manifesto after talking to LGBT Londoners (see http://www.kenlivingstone.com/ken-launches-lgbt-manifesto-ahead-of-london-gay-mayoral-hustings) and will continue his 4 decades of support for LGBT equality. The choice is straight forward.

        1. Spanner1960 3 May 2012, 10:21am

          The difference is Boris won’t make up crap specifically for minorities, his manifesto is for all Londoners.

          Ken will isolate, fragment and kowtow to each and every little pocket offering them exactly what they want to hear, and then once in power will throw the lot out of the window and do exactly the fck he wants.

          He did it before, he will do it again.

      2. You’re right, I’d alter my original statement to “I don’t know why he offered a separate LGBT manifesto in the first place, it’s not necessary for us to have a separate manifesto we should fall into an inclusive equality section within the whole framework.”

        Boris making policy on the hoof again ;) Which I agree is hardly desirable!

  8. So lets get this right….
    1. Ensures Met continued crack down on hate crimes. THATS MORE OF THE SAME THEN.
    2. G’tee there remains at least 1 LGBT liason officer. THATS MORE OF THE SAME THEN.
    3. CONTINUE to support projects like FIT DVD to combat bullying. THATS MORE OF THE SAME THEN.
    4. CONTINUE to support Pride. Ah right. A free ticket to the front of the march for a photo session. THATS MORE OF THE SAME THEN.
    Totally nothing new! This promise of a manifesto to the LGBT community that will ‘amaze’ is the biggest con trick i have seen Boris pull! Not to mention the timing when most postal votes are already in! A Shocking way to treat the LGBT community! He deserves to lose!

    1. Spanner1960 3 May 2012, 10:22am

      So what’s wrong with “More of the same”?
      If it ain’t broke, why fix it?

      1. Are you saying that everything is alright in London ….

        Sheesh I would hate to see it when it got really bad then!

        1. Spanner1960 3 May 2012, 5:31pm

          Please define what *new* ideas should be added to the existing ones then.

    2. That There Other David 3 May 2012, 10:36am

      Of course it’s more of the same. He’s the incumbent!!! :-)

  9. Very disappointed. His quick decision to ban those adverts on London buses was impressive, though.

    1. LGBTLondonequality 2 May 2012, 11:47pm

      No – as Ken says: “it is disgraceful that an ex-gay Christian organisation managed to have advertising for London’s buses signed off and ready to go out on London buses. Boris Johnson may claim that eventually stopping them was a victory but the reality is that his eye was off the ball – this homophobic campaign should never have been allowed to reach the stage it did.

      When I was Mayor of London there was a zero tolerance on homophobia and all controversial advertising campaigns had to be approved by the Mayor’s Office. For example, I banned the holiday company Sandals from advertising on London’s public transport because they did not allow same-sex couples to visit their resorts. My ban led to Sandals changing their policy and ending this discrimination against lesbian and gay couples. If elected I will ensure that LGBT-friendly policies are reinstated to prevent the sort of mistake Boris has made – which could now result in an expensive legal action footed by the tax payer”

      1. “All controversial advertising campaigns had to be approved by the Mayor’s Office.” – typical of the left, get 3 people to do one persons job. Personally I’d prefer the money spent somewhere else.

  10. “Even the BNP candidate Carlos Cortiglia answered questions.”

    Exactly what is wrong here, not separate manifestos. The man can’t even keep promises before the election, that’s impressive.

    It’s like he’s making it purposely making it clear, if you vote for me now you’re complicit in your own disappointment at a later date, when you realise I can’t be arsed to do anything.

    It’s a kind of perverse honesty.

  11. Craig Nelson 3 May 2012, 12:02am

    I think it is very disappointing for a politician to make a clear promise to produce a LGBT manifesto for the election ad then doesn’t do it. It shows he’s a very shallow person and is quite happy to seek for votes on misleading promises.

    1. I hear you are quite the little spunk monkey yourself Aiden on the sly you little minx. Are you ever going to come out? No? Ah well, moving on.

    2. Do you not take a lot of milk in your diet then? That’s not good for your calcium levels you know.

    3. That There Other David 3 May 2012, 12:06pm

      Lib Dems and Labour support marriage equality, as it appears do enough Tories. Even if the government don’t draft a Bill the fact that it’s being spoken about so openly means MPs from another party will. This country is going to enact marriage equality within this Parliament.

      Face it “Aiden”. You’ve lost this particular battle already.

  12. Well done Boris for ignoring the militant LGBT lobby and their insignificant votes.

    1. That There Other David 3 May 2012, 12:00pm

      LOL. Yeah, hardly any LGBTs in London are there :-D

      Not even a half-decent trolling effort.

  13. He really doesn’t appear to have much of a clue does he?

    Have you also noticed how Boris looks completely bored when he is at Pride?

    I would never waste my vote on the the tories

  14. Ever since PinkNews exposed the homophobia within UKIP, there has been a lot more trolls popping up. Haven’t they got anything better to do? I mean, their silly little party are so insignificant, you’d think they would want to be out there compaigning for votes.

    1. Spanner1960 3 May 2012, 10:25am

      Um, they are. Not seen the Purple taxi?

  15. If you hate UKIP, then vote Green!

  16. so boris, apart from the bikes (initialy ken’s idea anyway) that only benefit central london, wasting millions on your vanity project in the shape of new routemaster and scrapping extended congestion zone in the most expensive part of london, what exactly did you do for those of us who are not millionaires or live in zone1

    1. Bikes are making it out to other boroughs in the next couple of years. Wandsworth gets on the scheme in 2013, thanks to Mayor Boris.

      1. my question was what did he do not what he is promising to do, promises can be easily broken. personally i judge the record first and then make the decision whether i want somebody to carry on. frankly i cant see any single important issue that i benefited from under boris. i can think of few under ken, so my vote is for him

      2. You can’t just provide bikes for people to ride you have to improve cycling infrastructure. This is where he is truly failing RE cycling.

        Plus some idiots have no idea how to ride a bike on the road and are a danger to themselves. They need to encourage people to attend cycle awareness classes.

  17. I find it staggering that everyone is so fixated on this need for a separate manifesto. And it’s not just ghetto gays looking for special treatment, cyclists were at it the other day too.

    Being gay does not define who I am, and I don’t expect people to pander to me for my vote any more than I expect them to pander to Muslims or women or whichever minority group is granted protected status from time to time.

    Expecting separate manifestos is divisive, it makes the case for those who regard us gays as something other than normal. Demanding this preferred treatment is self-defeating and only serves to cut us off from the mainstream.

    1. Spanner1960 3 May 2012, 10:28am

      Praise be! Somebody with a bit of sense. I totally agree.

      However, I am rather disappointed Boris actually made an offer of an LGBT manifesto, and then retracted. He should have just been up front and said “I don’t make special dispensations for minorities” and be done with it. Not everyone would have liked it, but most would have respected him for his stance. The way he did this looks like either a cop-out, or worse, he simply couldn’t be arsed.

    2. there are issues that affect mainly gay people (or your as you eloquently put it ‘ghetto gays’) and all we want for the candidates to do is to recognize and acknowledged them, we dont want to be seen or treated like special case. it has nothing to do with special treatment. there are other groups like elderly or disables that would expect mayor to recognize and acknowledged they needs.

    3. No one demanded it. He said he was going to do it and he didn’t. If he hadn’t said he was going to amaze the world with his LGBT manifesto, I don’t think anyone would care. It’s another case of him thinking before he speaks/lying.

  18. Boris, you’re fired!

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