When will the church finally understand that gay people don’t have to change to fit with society, but society has to change to fit with gay people? Same Sex Attraction, or “SSA” (as he’s so clinically put it) is only unwanted because people like the church teach that it should be wanted. You never hear of people with unwanted Opposite Sex Attraction
REligion is an induced obsessive compulsive disorder resulting in beliefs that defy rationality, are induced by fear of death and promise that death isnt really death. Also mixed in with all kinds of guilt about sex, denial etc.
And basically designed to gain control of other peoples minds so they will give power and money to the leaders of these scams.
MUch of in the west based on stories of one man who supposedly cured blindness (ever heard of psychosymantic blindness etc) and who supposedly came back from the dead
Based on stories written and rewritten over the ages. The son of God story is preceded in history by Osirus , son of some god and father of the god Horus.
Alexander the great was a virgin birth, pulled out of the head of the God Zeus. who I think was the god of war.
BTW if marry really had a virgin birth, obviously Jesus would have been a woman unless they did transgender surgery 2000 years ago – F >M
think of the hundred billion #/$ the churches own.
Why are gays concerned about what happens in the Church when they argue that they don’t believe in the Bible
because the church insists on its right to interfere in ‘gays’ lives
It’s not that some gays don’t believe in the Bible, they just probably disagree with your interpretation of it.
You do hear of catholic priests with unwanted opposite sex attraction. However, many just ignore their rules and have secret families.
Perhaps the problem is the demonisation of all sexual attraction by some religions, and the idea that sex is intrinsically sinful.
Of 12 signs of relationship abuse, 10 can easily be mapped onto a person’s relationship with religious condemnation/abuse of same sex relationships. This article is one more example of power / relationship abuse … are you in an abusive relationship with your church and/or family??
10 signs of abusive relationship (article title – actually have 12 listed)
Direct quote from the Royal College of Psychiatry website:
“The British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy has recently completed a systematic review of the world’s literature on LGB people’s experiences with psychotherapy (King et al., 2007). This evidence shows that although LGB people are open to seeking help with mental health problems they may be misunderstood by therapists who regard their homosexuality as the root cause of any presenting problem such as depression or anxiety.
Unfortunately, therapists who behave in this way cause considerable distress. A small minority of therapists will even go so far as to attempt to change their client’s sexual orientation (Bartlett et al, 2001). This can be deeply damaging. Although there is now a number of therapists and organisation in the USA and in the UK that claim that therapy can help homosexuals to become heterosexual, there is no evidence that such change is possible.
The best evidence for efficacy of any treatment
comes from randomised clinical trials and no such trial has been carried out in this field. There are however at least two studies that have followed up LGB people who have undergone therapy with the aim of becoming heterosexual. Neither attempted to assess the patients before receiving therapy and both relied on the subjective accounts of people, who were asked to volunteer by the therapy organisations themselves (Spitzer, 2003) or who were recruited via the Internet (Shidlow and Schroeder, 2002).
The first study claimed that change was possible for a small minority (13%) of LGB people, most of who could be regarded as bisexual at the outset of therapy (Spitzer, 2003). The second showed little effect as well as considerable harm (Shidlow and Schroeder, 2002). Meanwhile, we know from historical evidence that treatments to change sexual orientation that were common in the 1960s and 1970s were very damaging to those patients who underwent them and affected no change in their sexual
orientation (King, M. and Bartlett, A., 1999).
In conclusion the evidence would suggest that there is no scientific or rational reason for treating LGB people any differently to their heterosexual counterparts. Socially inclusive, non-judgemental attitudes to LGB people who attend places of worship or who are religious leaders themselves will have positive consequences for LGB people as well as for the wider society in which they live. ”
Clearly Prof Harrison is mistaken and his interpretation is at odds with that of his professional body, the American Psychiatry Association, the American Psychology Association, the WHO and most eminent experts.
Wha I don’t understand is how it can be ethical for a psychiatrist to supposedly help a gay person become chaste, even if the person wants to be.
I thought the Hyppocratic oath included the oath to do no harm. How is chastity remotely healthy for a man, much less natural? It is clearly sexually deviant. If the Catholic clergy is any guide, it is a recipe for pedophilia.
Absolutely, the first rule of clinical ethics is “do no harm”.
Prof Harrison flagrantly seems to disregard this.
Oh dear, the archbishop is telling lies, sky daddy will be angry….
Or he is just another one of those people for whom sexuality is a highly mutable experience, and they project themselves and their understanding on to others. Those who are most adamant that it is a choice tend to be that way because, for them, it is.
Of course, this assumes that we should pay attention, on psycho-sexual issues (or anything else in the real world) to a man who believes in ridiculous fairy stories.
“Archbishop panel member says gay people can ‘change’ sexual attraction”
Perhaps Prof Harrison should read the comments of his own professional body here, in their statement on sexual orientation:
He should perhaps pay particular attention to these statements:
“Royal College of Psychiatrists wishes to clarify that homosexuality is not a psychiatric disorder.”
“The Royal College of Psychiatrists believes strongly in evidence-based treatment. There is no sound scientific evidence that sexual oientation can be changed. Furthermore, so-called treatments of homosexuality create a setting in which prejudice and discrimination flourish.”
Prof Harrison should recall that it is the duty of every clincian to “do no harm” and to seek to prevent prejudice and discrimination. He should reconsider his attitudes and homophobia.
People who are unfortunate enough to have Prof Harrison as their clinician and are LGBT should request an alternate clinician and make the NHS formally aware of the reason.
I send emails to
I shall compose an email to Lambeth Palace shortly.
You got me thinking though and I may also send one to the Executive PA to Bristol University’s Vice Chancellor Jami.West@bristol.ac.uk
I may also send one to the Royal College of Psychiatrists
Well done Stu.
The American Psychological Association defines conversion therapy as therapy aimed at changing sexual orientation. The American Psychiatric Association states that conversion therapy is a type of psychiatric treatment “based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that a patient should change his/her sexual homosexual orientation.” The American Psychiatric Association has condemned this type of therapy and states that, “Ethical practitioners refrain from attempts to change individuals’ sexual orientation.”
In a letter dated February 23, 2011 to the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Attorney General of the United States stated “while sexual orientation carries no visible badge, a growing scientific consensus accepts that sexual orientation is a characteristic that is immutable”. This was based on advice from the American Psychiatric Assoc and the American Counselling Assoc.
The World Health Organization’s ICD-10, which along with the DSM-IV is widely used internationally, states that “sexual orientation is not to be regarded as a disorder”.
The Royal College of Psychiatrists states: “The Royal College shares the concern of both the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association that positions espoused by bodies like the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) in the United States are not supported by science. There is no sound scientific evidence that sexual orientation can be changed. Furthermore so-called treatments of homosexuality as recommended by NARTH create a setting in which prejudice and discrimination can flourish. The Royal College of Psychiatrists holds the view that lesbian, gay and bisexual people should be regarded as valued members of society who have exactly similar rights and responsibilities as all other citizens.”
Japan’s psychiatric body removed homosexuality from its list
of psychiatric disorders in 1995
In 2000, the General Assembly of the Norwegian Psychiatric Association overwhelmingly voted for the following position statement on sexual orientation change therapy:
“Homosexuality is no disorder or illness, and can therefore not be subject to treatment. A ‘treatment’ with the only aim of changing sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual must be regarded as ethical malpractice, and has no place in the health system.”
I think that studies should be done on this kind of ‘therapy’. Either it works or it doesn’t. If we really believe in freedom to choose, if we are really pleased when a straight guy turns gay, then we should not have a problem with a tiny handful of gay people wanting to become straight. Despite the idiot about whom this article is about, some might want to change for reasons other than religious!
wanker. what does any man know what god wants? its hubris.
Is this specimen our friend Aiden’s personal therapist?
Maybe his sugar daddy?
Almost the worst thing is that he is an
” emeritus professor of psychiatry at Bristol University”
Why is a uni appointing such a nut to a medical department? I would have hoped that Bristol university would have been more careful who they employed than the CofE who I have no faith in.
Quite. Happy for the CofE to choose whichever nutter they want, but this guy should not be let near students or patients.
It really beggers belief that someone so well-educated can be so TOTALLY DUMB!!!! This idiot is totally unfit for porpose to sit on this committee!!!!
Who’d be a gay Christian with people like this charge?
So if everyone tries really hard we can all become suppressed and repressed.
What a wonderful clinical outcome. I’m sure these people must be on the brink of discovering a cure for cancer.
More likely they have developed a cure for happiness, because they think life should be a trial of suffering.
And what better way to make people suffer than to deny them the joy of a loving relationship?
A bunch of pretentious old men playing at running the world. But the world left them behind long ago. We are the future.
Still, one could almost feel sorry for the Anglican leadership as they straddle the divide between liberal congregations in the West and those of global South.
Why should they change?
Because of some superstitious dogma?
is the word ‘member’ a euthamism? (i know its not my usual prolific whinge but i dont like repeating myself)
Why do you report such bollocks. Just to wind us up? This isn’t journalism this is awind up.
Also reported here:
and a number of other outlets.
Its relevant because this guy is regarded as eminent in his field and influences other homophobes. We need to be warned and to combat it, particularly when we are campaigning against such vitriolic nasty idiots as C4M
I found an email address for where is in Bristol
Glynn Harrsions address and details at Bristol University
Disgusting. Britol university should sever all ties!
I went to and was involved with a CoE Church until was 22. At 14 I knew I was gay, I denied it to myself throughout most of my teens and then progressed to denying that the Church was as homophobic as it actually is – it’s not perfect but in a lot of ways the Church does a lot of good and will strive to fill the holes in society where no one else cares enough to take action.
There are many things that anger me about the church but in particular, it has done its best prevent me from choosing to be a Christian. This latest clandestine move shows that its majority still doesn’t want to deal with the canker it has nurtured through the mistranslation and gross misinterpretation of scripture. If anything, they see opposing gay rights as a true testament of their faith to Gods word. It’s pathetic and disappointing.
I agree with your post, save in one respect. Christians do not have a monopoly on morality and kindness. It’s in us all. That churches seek out the weak is as much about recruiting them is it is helping them.
For example, adoption has not suddenly gone into crisis all of a sudden because the Catholic adoption agencies have been closed down. Their function was merely to increase their control on society. Religious schools are the same.
I didn’t say that the Church holds the monopoly on morality and kindness. However, I’d like to post a reply that tempers the position on the Church thinking it holds the moral high ground on doing good in society but I think, in general, it’s true. And you’re right, I know from first hand experience that the Church (and many within it) use that myth to recruit the weak – there’s a difference between helping people and telling them that you are the only help there is.
If Professor Harrison can change his orientation to prove his theory that sexual orientation can be changed, we just might believe him….otherwise he is just another bigoted religious person like the rest of them. Such people need to be removed from any sort of authority over anyone else since they will, by their very nature, abuse innocent LGBTIQ people. ALL recognized psychiatric organizations state categorically that sexual orientation cannot be changed, so why is this old fool still a professor of psychiatry at a state university? Remove him! His ‘religion’ clouds his mind making him useless to humanity….
The Christian Church has had 2,000 years to prove that and they have failed and can not do that and they have never been able to do it. Just because they now they use psychiatry with their pills that can kill you and electric shock in China to make gays straight which still also kills the human body. Adding prayer has not done it. When are Christians going to stop persecuting gays and burning them at the stake and start loving them for who they are, your sons and daughters and fathers and mothers and family of all kinds. God makes some people gay, and he makes them everyday, love them and help them like you would anybody else. Do not torture them and abuse them for you are just committing more sins by harming God’s gay children. Only sick people what to harm others, that is why they have prisons to hold them.
take yer sky fairies and f*** off.
I am sure that it will be a comfort to Prof Harrison to know that I believe him. Straight people can also change ;-) for the better. Its really a matter of if they want to rather than some crank trying to brainwash them.
Did this creep not see all of these hetersexual men who where really gay, coming out on tv, and telling their stories, including hillary clingtons aid from years ago, was married for forty ;years in a false unfulfilling relationship with no real love, and told the tv, she never felt real love are affections for the man, just went thru the motions and dull and depressing live , like many people in false marriages now, two of the top weathiest people in the uk came out in hetersexual marriages and divorced publicaly and went on with the real love of their lives, because they where realy gay and said they ref;used to continue the lies, hidden and the world could kiss their asses, its their life, millions of people in arranged anf false marriages with people they dont love and dont even , t;hat why many hetersexual marriages fail every day, and are a nationsla dangerous violotile desaster, never works, loveless and happiless, all false lies, i have enough hetersexual friends to no it, too,
Just another form of bigotry by the English church, which is really the catholic church with a different “pope”
btw heres a list of some prominent american anti gay people who got caught.
#1 is George Rekers, who was head of Narth – national association for research and treatment of homosexuality.
It really “worked” on him.
I think that this fix BS is just another example of how “people who believe in absurdities say absurd things.
The bit that cracks me up is the cover George Rekers selected for his book on “Shaping your child’s sexual identity”
A strapping Lumberjack leaning on a felled log with a big sturdy axe
It’s pitched halfway between Tom of Finland and this…
Fran dresser is all over the news about her twenty year marriage just ending her husband could not take anymore of the lies, he wanted to go on with his real love, and live with him, because he was gay, and told franny he could not continue to lie for public appearances, look at the high profile multimilionair mega church gay pastor living a lie for twenty eight y;years because all of the hetersexual men pushed him into a false marreage as a young man , living a lie in the church pulpit, an him and his wife came on naitonal tv and apologized to the public , but said they could not go on ruining each others lives, it was not fair for the woman and for him he said they never had sex , but slept in seperate bedrooms and basically lived separate lives and grew to resent the arangement because their was no love are affection for one another, they lived a false lie he said for 28 years, like some are still doing but more people are waking up and gettting out of bad and false marriages
Who the blinking flip is Fran Dresser?
Based on the last post, I thought the tablets were working. Seems we got the dosage wrong.
INCLUSION is the thing that is going to change us. You watch.
Who need the church or a gay cure.
Harrison is certainly not alone in the C of E to hold these views and it is very significant that he is associated with True Freedom Trust, a UK Christian outfit that has been in business for a very long time aiming to change gays from their wicked ways by finding Jesus.
Apart from gay groups like Changing Attitudes, will there be any official rejection of Harrison’s claims from the Church?
That some people want to be chaste for religious reasons is fine, but they don’t stop there, they want to prescribe it for all gay people and create a climate of homophobia where gay people and their relationships are looked down on.
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I am one of thousands of Angican Gay Christians who who understand the position which the new Archbishop will have to work with. Unfornatally the bigotted views of Prof Harrison should not be part of the Commission.
I totally agree with you, Don; I too, am a Gay Christian and find
the LGCM very useful, besides many gay – friendly clergy within the church.
It is such a pity that the church generates such negative statements and insulting language from many members of our gay community, but here again, without a Christian background and positive, loving counselling, I often wonder who can blame them!
But are they friendly enough to support our right to a civil marriage? I think the answer is a resounding NO.
There is no hoosexualite gene
No you’re right there. There definitely is not a “hoosexualite” gene. A+ for accuracy.
When they produce a straight guy, preferably with a few sprogs, who has chosen to become gay then I am at least willing to listen, so put up or shut up…….
Not entirely a solid indicator that one… Michael Barrymore and Ted Haggard were both playing straight family men with kids before coming out/ being outed. Mary Portas was previously in a straight relationship.
To what extent their previous straight relationships were all a front or evidence of a bisexual streak perhaps we’ll never know.
One thing I can agree with you on is that you can’t turn sexuality on and off like a lightswitch… it isn’t simply mind over matter.
It’s quite possible to go through the motions of having a straight wife and 2.4 kids, and many closeted gay people do, but that has no more bearing on your innate sexuality than your dress sense.
You innate sexuality is who you’re emotionally and physically attracted to when there’s no-one else to witness it.
Gosh fancy founding your beliefs about gays on “anecdotes” instead of listening to gays themselves.
I wonder if these anecdotes emanate from those fraudulent American organisations.
Of course many Christian’s anti gay sentiments arise from anecdotes of what they think the bible says about gays.
Lets face it,’Christianity’ is based on anecdotes,hearsay and things that ‘somebody’ heard years ago.
The Bish, of course, avoids the key question – why should gay Christians change even if they can, simply on the basis of a highly selective and dodgy reading of the religion’s traditions? (All Christianity’s readings of itself are selective, of course)?
However, I feel that the possibility of therapies to manage or contain the urge to believe in invisible spirits who tell you what to do and think should be explored.
It really does demonstrate how religions are so completely out of touch with the real world while their bury their heads in dusty old books and imagine we are still all God-fearing folk.
They really need to get their heads out of their arses and try doing some missionary work or suchlike, and they might then start to realise how totally disconnected they are from reality.
Of course they do do missionary work. They head to places where people are weak, poor, uneducated and vulnerable, and set about indoctrinating them. Meanwhile educated people with access to plenty of food and good healthcare tell them to clear off.
That makes it all pretty clear to me.
problem is not enough educated people with access to plenty of food and good healthcare head to places where people are weak, poor, uneducated and vulnerable to do the dirty job themselves
The only ones who deserve to be called “christian” and a true follower of their founder Jesus Christ, are those who sell everything they have and give to the poor in true keeping with his message. None of them do it, least of all the clergy. As for the Roman cult, look at the palatial splendour of the Vatican for starters.
By the same reckoning, there is no CLAIM to heterosexuality, you many people find the idea of homosexual contact abhorrent, so are they wrong, or is that another fallacy?
We do not need to claim anything. Do you seriously think people choose to be gay when they have to suffer the crap people like this man and the likes of fckwits like yourself constantly dish out?
You know, this definition of us being able to “change” gives us gays superhuman qualities as it seems no straight people can manage such a change! Really, people who make such comments, finding “shortfalls” in “God´s purpose” (yawn) – makes you wonder how they rose to such prominent positions in the first place. Change – bah!
His tenure at Bristol University should be questioned. Imagine going to him because you’ve been bullied for being gay and are now depressed because of it, and he said, stop being gay and your problem is solved. It’s about as ludicrous as saying your depressed because of the colour of your skin. Just change the colour of your skin and keep your bullies happy. What a twit.
Mike, he is described as “EMERITUS Professor”. Emeritus means “honourably discharged from service”, so he is no longer actually working as a professor of psychiatry at Bristol University – for which we may be thankful.
However, by using the title “Emeritus Professor”, he continues to draw on the prestige of Bristol University.
But why does Bristol University want to continue their association with this man, now that his extremist views have been made public?
Its possible that some might want to have themselves convinced into believing that same sex attraction is in conflict with their Christian values.. absolutely agree.. but.. if Christians did not tell anyone that it was wrong to be gay, then no one would want to suppress their sexuality.. seems like a no brainer, everyones happy. I gety the feeling that anyone suggesting that sexual attraction can be changed, has to be someone that has forgotton what it is to enjoy, or for that matter to have sex.. its all become some intellectual exercise which they beleive you can think yourself into or out of, at will..
He is just another religious nut, nothing more nothing less!
@Keith — proof ?
About 100% proof looking at all the spelling mistakes in that mad rant, I’d think! And a good old litre or two of it too!
Religious can be cured from their delusions by carefully reading their ‘holy’ book and having the meaning of its texts explained to them by atheists.
The creator says so.
And you wonder why people laugh at you? Poor dear.
If gays fall short of what god intended for his ‘creation’, then I’m sure short-sighted people do too.
Dear Prof Harrison:
I challenge you to fall in love with a man. Don’t think about it, just do it- it should be easy enough. It’s all a choice, isn’t it?
Then, once you’ve done that, you can stay with him forever and force yourself to enjoy sex. You’ll never think about women again.
If you can do that, then your expectations of gay people are perfectly reasonable.
Actually, on second thoughts, if you can do that then you’re probably bisexual.
Well put, Alice. The day these nutters can convert a heterosexual man or woman to a homosexual orientation, then maybe they’ll have some credence.
I think Canon Giles Goddard is somewhat naive to assume that Harrison will choose the best person for the job regardless of his personal views. In any event, why isn’t there a national debate on disestablishing the state church? Fewer countries than ever have state religion. I find it totally irrelevant and unnecessary. Religious belief is chosen and I just don’t see why it should be allowed a place in government.
Some of these psychiatrists do have very cranky ideas. For example, Ian Stevenson (late Carlson Professor of Psychiatry in the Department of Psychiatric Medicine at the University of Virginia) and Arthur Guirdham (late Senior Consultant Psychiatrist for the Clinical Area of Bath) both thought that homosexuality was in some cases due to the person having been a member of the other sex in a previous life. The question is, why has a crackpot like Harrison been appointed to the panel of the Crown Nominations Commission?
OMG, another one escaped the loony bin…
People are who they are you can’t change that no matter what .would we go around and say ok straight people must be secretly gay so we need to bring that out because others say so that if we all was gay the world would be a better place . we are born gay or straight not how we was raised some people have to accept we are who we are weather gay, straight ,bi, whatever
Gay people are as likely to change their same sex attractiuon as Prof. Harrison is able to change his sexuality. It’s absurd.
People will try and repress feeling that are deemed as sinful or evil by society but repressing such a intergral part of who you are is rarely a psychologically healthy option.
I think most of Christianity still sees all sexuality as intrinsically evil and celibacy is seen as being more pure. Since celibacy is unrealistic for 99.9999% of humans, they promote sex within heterosexual marriage as an acceptable option, otherwise no one could comply with their ridiculous rules. The Catholic Church even goes so far as stating that all sexual relations must allow for procreation, hence sex is only for having children. This is why they forbid birth control. I’m not sure how they deal with infertile people or post-menapausal married women. If you follow their logic, these people would be required to be celibate even though they are married.
Silly, silly, man; how many men and women have married, firmly believing that this will “change” them, only to realise later that they’re not “changed” at all.
And what is the result?
A heartbroken and bewildered partner, (perhaps) hysterical, dazed children who can’t understand what’s happening with their mother and father, and a gay man or woman who carries this guilt for the rest of his/her life.
That’s what happens when you effect change such as this; how did this man achieve such status in both academia and the church?
I’m very much afraid the man’s not fit to hold either of his posts.
Has Harrison I wonder ever attempted to have sex with someone of his own gender to prove that people can “change”? If not, why not? It works both ways, Prof. Harrison. He needs to prove to us that a straight person can become gay or resist heterosexual tendencies if he is to be believed.
he means from straight you can become gay
he should from stupid become enlightened
stupid religious freak
I think he means the reverse, trying to become straight from gay. Either way, he needs to provide the scientific evidence to prove his statement. It needs to be done for both orientations before any credibility can be given. Even Exodus International an ex-gay ministiry have said that it is probably impossible to change one’s orientation but resistance to natural gay desires can be avoided by using aversion therapy, none of which has been proved in a controlled study. None of the legitimate scientific literature have published anything in support of Harrison’s statement or of any long-term controlled studies by any of the scientific, psychiatiric institutions or universities.
As if Cameron would select a candidate recommended by this plonk. Sentamu dream on.
Where is this persons brain in his back side shorly, you do not wake up one morning and say right today i am gay, you are born that way, just like i knew when i was about 4 years old that i was born in the wrong body, the church should wake up its not upto the individual to have change the way they are its upto the church to accept thats how it is, i just wish they would bloody well grow up or more importantly grow a brain.
There is also quite evidently no gene for spelling.
I think that people who suggest that sexuality can “change” should experiment this on themselves to prove their point… show me a straight person can become gay, which we know that first they wouldn’t attempt it and secondly it would not work because you “change” who you are attracted to
Dr Robert Spitzer has now retracted his study which made claims of gay cure.
One of the references that is quoted in this article by Prof Harrison is by Spitzer who has retracted his claims:
Other of the articles he references are either also retracted or proven to be biased, false, malicious or untrue.
Perhaps Prof Harrison, the RCPsych, Bristol University etc need to consider what action is appropriate.
In terms of Prof Harrison he needs to apologise and seek forgiveness from the LGBT population for the harm he has caused and retract his own papers on this issue.
Having met him, Glynn Harrison is:
3) spiritually wise
4) only expressing orthodox Christian views.
So why are you persecuting him, folks?