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  1. How funny!

    And presumably , like her brother, is a Catholic!

    1. de Villiers 7 Apr 2012, 11:07pm

      What is funny about being a Catholic? Nearly every French person is a Catholic.

      1. Believing in illusion: creation of a woman from the rib of a man, evil apples, talkng snakes, virgin births, being inpregnanted by a angel, a burning bush giving you messages, waking from being dead after three days, drinking wine that is believed to be the blood of a man over 2000 years dead, miracle wine from water, walking on water, visions, talking to the dead, burning in hell forever ….

        Pretty funny if the insanity was not so horrible.

      2. No you’re certainly right being a Catholic isn’t funny…

        I find the story hilarious, here is a liberal leader, who often plays the conservative, religious card and who is well known to oppose gay marriage as a devout Catholic having a sister with equal values , from the same background, same parents who is gay and who has been on demos calling for marriage equality. And a gay person in a stable partnership and who is caring for children.

        It’s also wonderfully timed to coincide with the current debate in the Senate on marriage equality and the forthcoming 2 bills coming to the lower house.

        1. Well said. Abbott’s right hand man, Chris Pyne, another self proclaimed devout catholic, wrote to me that “I am, as you may be aware, opposed to gay marriage. To me there is a religious aspect to marriage, and that religious aspect does not allow marriage between anyone other than a man and a woman.”

          I pointed out to him that Australia states that “All Australians are free to follow any religion they chose…Australians are also free not to follow a religion…Australia has secular government and no official or state religion. Governments treat all citizens as equal regardless of religion. Religious laws have no legal status in Australia. “. It continues to say “All Australians are equal under the law. This means that nobody should be treated differently from anybody else….Government agencies and independent courts must treat everyone fairly”.

          Obviously he alows his personal religion to override the Australian constitution.

      3. Hey de Villiers, I don’t know what they’re like in Villiers but round our way the French are very anti Catholic..They don’t seem to have forgotten the revolution when they strung ’em up.

        How about this story from the Catholics themselves :

        They say only 2.9% of french are practising catholics

    2. katieMurphy - ex cath family 9 Apr 2012, 7:05am

      He values his mythical relationship with his mythical god in the sky more then his family. while his church talks about protecting families, it turns people into hypocrites etc.

      Virtually every part of the jesus story is based on the past stuperstition, eg Osirus was a god and fathered Horus, another god in Egyption Mytheology

      Alexander the great was a virgin birth from a male God Zeus, pulled out of Zeus’ forehead.

      Duh – religion makes people so stupid.

  2. Wow! Who needs enemies when you have family members like that?!

    1. Dennis Battler 8 Apr 2012, 1:30am

      familiar territory … I’ve 2 older sisters, one a rabid fundamentalist convinced, as a gay man, I’m on the road to hell and the other one absolutely defines marriage as being for a man and a woman ONLY. Haven’t seen them in a yr and half.

      1. katieMurphy - ex cath family 9 Apr 2012, 7:07am

        Do the world a favor re the fundi and get her committed to an asylum.

        Maybe she’s all f…ked up because her priest raped her as a child. Then blamed her for causing it and threatened her with hell eternal if she ratted him out or went against the church.

        BTW I really know someone like this description. The church creates monsters and then uses them.

  3. Robin Evans 7 Apr 2012, 11:05pm

    “Alex Greenwich of the Australian Marriage Equality however hopes otherwise. ”Advocacy from loved ones is by far the most effective way of changing hearts and minds,” he said in a statement.”

    Abbott would need to have a mind first….

  4. Allan Schutz 8 Apr 2012, 12:17am

    Politicians can’t agree on this subject, why not put it to a referendum, I am personally against same sex marriage but we live in a democracy, so put it to a referendum if it’s past I can live with that.
    But to continually kepp saying the majority of people are i favour of same sex marriage based on a survey of 2 to 3 thousand people is rediculous

    1. And after that?

      What referendum would you like after that? Whose human rights would you like to vote on next?

    2. Then can we all have a vote to see if we approve of your arrangements?

  5. radical53 8 Apr 2012, 1:21am

    Homophobia is just as entrenched in families as it is in the general public.

    There are many families who have gay members that don’t support their lifestyle or who they are. This is reality.

    1. But generally, having an example of a close relative of whom you are very fond, frequently has more effect on people than the general issue. Alex Greenwich is spot on with his comment.

  6. Rendsburg47 8 Apr 2012, 2:20am

    If power is for sale, sell your mother to buy it. You can always buy her back again.

  7. Any courage and bravery she needed to affirm her relationship may be because she (and we) must find our way in a world populated by people with such ill-founded and bigoted beliefs as those he demonstrates.

    1. Scott of Sydney 8 Apr 2012, 4:04am

      The courage is most needed when coming out to family. See the movie “Prayers for Bobby” telling the true story of a woman who finds this out too late. After the death of her son because of her intolerance. Intolerance fostered and nurtured by religion. The mother in this story is spending the rest of her life trying to prevent more damage of this kind happening to others as it happened to her and her son.
      Mr Abbott has not learnt this lesson. If he had he would be in Parliament voting for marriage equality.

  8. It’s really sad to see how religion can split families. Why can’t everybody just think rational? Come on, it’s the 21th century. We know how the world works and we sure know it wasn’t because god created Adam and Eva.

    My parents sent me to a Christian group from age 6 to 8, because they thought it delivers good values aso.
    Aged 8 I was thrown out of the group: I didn’t adapt and I didn’t believe. And I asked too many uncomfortable questions. That’s not what they want in a Christian group. They don’t want everybody, no matter how “equal” we are.

    And in my opinion it is really sad that some people need a religion to hold up their belief in life. Can’t you believe in your family, your friends – the real people? They need your warm words much more than a non-existing god.

  9. Religious people need to believe in a god who can forgive them for their sins because they can’t or refuse to forgive themselves for their own mistakes or sins. Once your forgive yourself, you don’t need any illusion of a god.

  10. I love my sister but to enough to assist in changing the law so same sex couples can marry! What an a***hole that man is! He is clearly not that proud, or indeed love her that much does he?

  11. There you go – first hand, family experience of a loving gay relationship, yet still he can’t see.


  12. Denisthemenace 9 Apr 2012, 6:01am

    I would have been less surprised if Tony Abott came out of the closet. Someone that antigay usually has something to hide!!

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