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David Cameron attempts to conciliate Christians over marriage equality

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  1. Christians, take note: UKIP oppose the redefinition of marriage.

    1. Who cares?

      1. Spanner1960 3 Apr 2012, 10:54pm

        I do, actually. I really thought there was hope.

        1. You thought there was hope with UKIP?

          1. Spanner1960 4 Apr 2012, 8:59am

            Yeah. Well none of the other big three are doing anything but wrecking this country. It’s about time somebody else got in and stopped this complacency and rattled a few cages.

          2. At most UKIP are a protest vote, and a wasted one at that – particularly given their views that LGBT people do not deserve equality.

            They clearly are BNP for people with mortgages.

          3. Personally i think Green is the only way to go to protest vote as, if they do get some measure of sway, it would only be for the better, not worse. I want to punish them with my protest vote, not them and myself xD

          4. Spanner1960 4 Apr 2012, 12:18pm

            I would vote for any pro-LGBT party that promised to get us out of Europe, but so far I haven’t seen a single taker.

    2. So? UKIP are like the BNP for Daily Mail readers – powerless jellyfish, all sound and fury and signifying nothing.

      1. Spanner1960 3 Apr 2012, 10:53pm

        Yeah, but at least they have the guts to state that the EU is a curse upon this country. I was very pro-UKIP until I found their stance on same-sex marriage, so that’s one vote they won’t be getting now.

      2. UKIP are the BNP for people who pass CRB checks!

    3. UKIP? That explains so much about you Jean.

      1. Absolutely, makes a great deal of sense, or rather the sort of “sense” you would associate with Jean

    4. EXACTLY!

      I’d love for the conservatives to split their votes and hand more seats to Labour and Lib Dems.

    5. “Christians, take note”

      Might I suggest that apart from you, that tw@t Aiden and the other couple of trolls that those Christians who do oppose marriage equality, for whatever reason, are not so obsessed as to spend their time on a site for LGBT people. And those who do I would suspect are those who are in favour of equality.

      1. Seems a strange arena to use to dedicate an anti-gay message to Christians. They are clearly going to flock to PN!

        Unless they are Jean, Aiden, Keith, Matthew or the like …

        People who are deluded in so many ways!

  2. Homophobia, racism, anger and oppression of women are Biblical values we could do with less of, thanks very much Dave.

  3. “The values of the Bible, the values of Christianity are the values that we need.”

    So if you’re not a person of faith, or of faith but not Christian you’re values are not required? Emm. Yeah. Nice work there.

    He’ll annoy those of us who don’t like to see a political leader favouring one religion (or any) but also annoy the people opposed to marriage equality. He wants to retire doesn’t he?

  4. Mumbo Jumbo 3 Apr 2012, 10:43pm

    Ezekiel 23:20

    “There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.”

    We need more of this says Prime Minister.

    Dog help us.

    1. Porn from the middle ages.

      Not to be confused with middle aged porn (which was what I wrote first)

      1. Oh come on. That’s tedious old bronze age porn. Medieval porn was much better.

    2. Loved the Ezekiel big dicks quote !

  5. “The values of the Bible, the values of Christianity are the values that we need.”

    I think there is something suspect about a group of people who need a book to tell them not to kill people, be nice to their neighbours and their parents etc. etc.

    Can they not figure that stuff out for themselves?

    1. Dr Robin Guthrie 4 Apr 2012, 1:27am

      Selfless altruism does not exist for these people. There book tells them that they will be “rewarded” in heaven, etc etc.

      Acts of kindness seems to be some kind of Tesco Loyalty scheme whereby they accumulate godly kudos over their lives in
      order to attain “eternal life” in a big happy place.

      Personally I would suggest to them a good psychiatrist, an understanding of science, particularly astronomy and a re-evaluation of their indoctrinated childhoods.

      1. …and a Monty Python movie…

    2. Paula Thomas 4 Apr 2012, 2:47am

      Yeah, just as well that they’ve got that book isn’t it? Otherwise they might hate their fellow man on the basis of who their fellow man loves, oh hang on…

  6. I really wish religion would butt out of my life. Please donate or register for updates from the national secular society, who campaign for equality & equal treatment if all – regardless of your choice to practice a religion or your choice to be a ‘free thinker’..

  7. CallMeDave already caving in to anti-gay leaders:
    .
    “If [gay marriage] doesn’t go ahead, to those of us who’d like it to go ahead, there will still be civil partnerships, so gay people will be able to form a partnership that gives them many of the advantages of marriage” –
    .
    http://www.secularism.org.uk/blog/2012/04/prime-ministers-dissembling-hypocritical-and-disingenuous-speech-to-religious-leaders

    1. @ Beberts..you said a mouthful and did not realize what you said! Civil partnerships gives many of them many of the advantages of marriage. BUT we don’t get ALL benefits! You don’t have equal death benefits or equal survivor pensions, yet we are in a monogamous relationship like ” married” people! There is still homophobia and predjudice way too often and we are just asking to be treated like everyone else and that is it! We are not asking to have weddings in a religious place, we are no threat to anyone! I think the churches should be able to make up their own minds as there are many religions that WANT to perform gay marriages! Is it fair not to let them if they want to where other religions are a big NO which is fine as religion is a choice. Being gay is not! As British citizens and also Human Beings, we deserve the same rights as you do or anyone else for that matter.

      1. Beberts was quoting Cameron, not expressing his opinion. I am sure he agrees with you on all this…

        1. Yes, that’s just a quote. After only a few days of a useless consultation, CallMeDave delivers a declaration where it appears he is already considering defeat of his equality push (didn’t we know that was coming?). In a very short time, the ConDemned coalition leaders managed to bow to pressures from anti-gay groups and include a question of whether equality should be implemented at all in their useless consultation … Now we see CallMeDave meeting anti-gay leaders and declare the reforms may not go ahead… How many more signatures he needs to see on the C4M website, so he gives in completely? Mrs Featherstone could be busy right now preparing her next move to cover her boss weakness and keep the gullible in site, but I wouldn’t hold my breath ….

          1. An excellent point, and it surprises me no- one else is alarmed by that particular quote, which should be at the top of the article. He is now talking about ‘if’. I hope this publication will get on to the Number 10 press office.

          2. This is a red flag and should be noticed by everyone who is expecting something from this government.

    2. Hang on a minute Beberts. IF they succeed in rolling back plans for gay marriage- the next fightback will be against Civil Partnerships. Do you honestly think that is their goal?

      1. Their goal is to remain in power whatever costs. They couldn’t care less if they had to drive a lorry over someone to achieve this. If they’d have to roll back civil rights, they’d do just that.

    3. Quote from Camerons Speech

      “The point I’d make is this: if this does go ahead it will change what happens in a registry office; it will not change what happens in a church. If this doesn’t go ahead, to those of us who’d like it to go ahead, there will still be civil partnerships, so gay people will be able to form a partnership that gives them many of the advantages of marriage. So I hope we can just keep the debate at a rational and sensible level, but on the basis that we’re not always going to agree. That was my plea”

      . . . . . . . . . .

      I agree worrying in its ambivalence!!!

      1. It just takes the mask off this government. Most Tory politicians and their electorate are homophobic to the core. It’d be political suicide if CallMeDave didn’t grant their wishes.

  8. “I hope we won’t fall out too much over gay marriage”

    You have already lost Dave, time to say bye byes, Local Elections comming..

    1. No, its UKIP and the militant anti-gay brigade that are losers.

  9. the values of the bible include marrying your rapist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
    many only push bigotry, hatred lies and intolerance
    dave’s being and idiot again

    1. And having multiple wives like Solomon and owning slaves from neighboring countries and mass slaughter…

  10. Thanks for the determination to ensure equal marriage happens. Thanks for making it clear you are prepared to fall out over it.

    Unfortunately David whilst I welcome your view that religious freedom (and I presume freedom from religion too) being a good thing – I believe in universal human rights – I do think you are cosying up too close to religious groups currently. State and religion do not belong together.

  11. DAVID CAMERONS JOB IS NOT TO CONCERN HIMSELF WITH BROWN NOSING NOR COMFORTING TERRORISTS AND BIGOTS WHO ARE ABUSING THIS SOCIETY , CHILDREN AND WOMEN, AND OTHERS THRU THEIR MISGUIDED MALICE AND TAMPERING WITH OTHERS PRIVATE LIVES, THAT IS NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS, THERE ARE NO DEVOUT POLITICIANS ESPECIALLY HETERSEXUAL MEN, THEIR BEATING , MURDERING , RAPING , AND INCESTING AND PEDEPHILING, DO NOT READ THE NEWS AN MEDIA ARRESTS, MOST OF THEM ARE HETERSEXUAL CLERGY WHO ARE JUST BAD MEN WHO ELECTED TO GET A PEACE OF PAPER CALLED A CERTIFICATE, CALLING THEMSELVES PASTORS , JUST A WAY TO HIDE KLANSHIP UNDER ;AND IN AND SEX CRIMES AS YOU SEE EVERYDAY COMING OUT IN THE OPEN, A CROSS AN A ROBE DRESS DOES NOT MAKE YOU ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE SAME PERSON YOU WHERE BEFORE YOU PUT IT ON, AN IN MOST CASES THE MEN ARE PERVERTS AN WICKED GREEDY FOR ABUSIVE POWER TO MESS UP AN WITH OTHERS LIVES, WHERE THEY DONT BELONG , THEIR OWN HETERSEXUAL MARRIAGES ARE A TOXIC DANGEROUS FAILURES AN IN DEVORCE COURTS

    1. Mumbo Jumbo 4 Apr 2012, 10:34am

      Nurse!

  12. “Mr Cameron also referred to the recent series of court cases, where secularists triumphed over Christians….”

    I think he needs to be quite clear what cases he is referring to here! The cases where gay people triumphed over Christians had nothing to do with faith since Gay people are NOT excluded from faith.

    It annoys me since the whole thing seems to be a war between gays and Christians as though Gays weren’t allowed to be Christians. The CofE is the state church and it’s annoying they get away with continued discrimination. I don’t care about private run Catholic churches, mosques etc but the CofE should be open to all in the UK regardless of sexual orientation.

    1. Actually, John, I think it’s actually a case, not of secularists triumphing over christians, but the law triumphing over law-breakers!

      1. And sorry I said “actually” twice – I think it was the surrounding screams from Carrie that put me off :)

  13. yOU REPRIMAND ALL PEOPLE AND ALL ORGANIZATIONS FOR DEFAMATIONS AND HATE CRIMES NO MATTER WHAT THEIR TITLES OR STATUSES, MURDER ISF MURDER, AND RAPE IS RAPE, AND HIGH CRIMES ARE HIGH CRIMES, THE POOR MOTHER SHOULD LOVE HER CHILD JUST LIKE THE RICH MOTHER, AND ANY LIFE ASSAULT ON IT, SHOULD HURT AND AS MUST AS THE MOTHER RICH OR POOR, GAY OR HETERSEXUAL, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR OR RACE, PAIN IS PAIN , AND LAU;GHTER IS LAUGHTER, EVERYONE SHOULD LIVE PEACEFUL COURTEOUS LIVES OF GOOD WILL TO OTHERS, OF FAIRNESS, AND EQUALITY, AND MOVE ON ABOUT YOUR OWN BUSINESSES AND FAMIILES, THEIR IS NO ESCUSE FOR MALICE NOR JUSTIFICATION, HATE IS EVIL AND MALICE AN SPITE UNWARRANTED HARRASMENT, BY ANYONE , RELIGION, WHICH MAKES IT EVIL NOT GOOD, AN OCCULT NOT A CHRISTIANITY ANYTHING , EVERY HATE GROUP USES THE WORD CHRISTION FOR THEMSELVES , INCLUDING THE BIBLE CARRYING DEVOUT REPUBLICANS SENATOR CRAIG AND PHILIP HINKLE CAUGHT IN HOTELS WITH UNDER AGE BOY AND BOYS IN THE PARK FOR SEX , WIFE AN AT HOME

  14. YOUR DEVOUT TED HAGGARDS, AND JEFF WARRENS, AN DAVID KARESHES, ALL PASTORS CERTIFICATES, ALL THE WAY BACK TO JIMMY SWAGART, DAVID CAMERON , LYNNE FEATHERSTONE, AND TORY, AND OTHERS, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE EQUALITY AMBASSADORS IN ENGLAND AN LONDON AND EVERYWHERE ELSE , YOUR DUTY IS TO THE LIVES AND WELL BEING OF ALL CITIZEND AN THEIR FAMILIES , GAY AN HETERSEXUAL WHO LIVE IN PEACE WITH AN AMONG ONE ANOTHER, NOT TO ;A HAND FULL OF HATE MONGER AND KLAN RELIGION OCCULTS OF EVIL AND MALICE, THIS IS THE TERRORISTS THAT MUST BE OCCOSTED AND REPRIMANDED AND BANNED FROM SPEAKING AN TEACHING HATRED, TO CHILDREN AND FAMIILES CAUSING KAOS AND WARS AN VIOLENCE, AS WELL AS, DAMAGE TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY, WITH THE OTHER TROUBLE OF COMPETITIONS THESE FALSE RELIGIONS ARE CAUSING EVERY BODY, THEIR NOSY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE IN EVERYBODIES BUSINESS AFFAIRS, INVASION OF LIVES AN THATS A CRIME, THEIR JUST NOSEY MEDDLING MEN AND WOMEN, HETERSEXUAL BIGOTS, AND YOU CANNOT ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT,

  15. wE DO NOT WANT RACIEST HATEFUL, AND MEAN SPIRITED WOMEN AND FAMILY MEMBERS COMING INTO OUT FAMLIES WHO ARE DARK AND DANGEROUS AND ABUSERS, PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE SAFE DOWN TO EARTH, SWEET LOVING AND CARING SOULS, AND THATS THE KIND OF WOMEN ,OF MATURITY, GOOD WOMEN LIKES, AND GOOD PEOPLE LIKES, THERE IS NO GOOD IN PEOPLE HARMING OTHERS, NO MATTER WHAT THEY CALL THEMSSELVES, IT DOESNT GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO ABUSE OTHERS, IF THEY REFUSE TO TREAT OTHERS COURTEOUSLY AND FAIR THEY MUST BE FIRED FROM PUBLIC POSITIONS, AS WELL AS RELIGIONS, GET OUT OF THE FACE OF PEOPLE AN FAMILIES IF THEY DONT LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY THEMELVES ARE BIGGOTS, THESE BIGGOTS NEED TO GET ON A FAR AWAY ISLAND BY THEMSELVES, AN LEAVE THE REST OF THE SOCIETY, ALONE, THAT DONT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BEING HUMAN BEINGS ABOUT THEIR OWN B;USINESS, OUR WORLD IS SO MUCH WORSE OFF AND DANGEROUS NOW BECAUSE OF THESE RELIGOUS BIGOTS AND KLANS, THE ATROCITIES ARE THE HIGHEST THE HAVE EVERY BEEN,

  16. AN THIS IS A NOT FOR IENE CHAIKEN AND OTHER LESBIAN, MOVIE MAKERS, LISTEN TAKE YOUR NOTES FROM ELENA UNDONE AND THE FIRST REAL L WORD, WHEN YOU MAKE LOVE STORIES FOR WOMEN, LOVING ANNEBELLA, WHERE IS PART TWO OF LOVING ANNEBELLA, SHE NEEDS TO TAKE OFF WITH PART TWO, THE YOUNG WOMAN LEAVING COLLEGE TO FIND HER LADY LOVE, HER HEART ON SUMMER VACATIONS, AND RETURNS TO THIER SPECIAL BEACH HOUSE TO FIND A NOTE LEFT FOR THE CARE TAKER THAT SHE HAS FLOWN BACK TO FAMIIES HOME IN PARIS FRANCE AND SEE HER RUNNIGN TO BOARD A PLANE OR TRAIN TO GET THEIR TO HER AND THERE FIND HER AND EMBRACE THE BEAUT;Y OF PARIS AND LONDON FRANCE WITH ELEGANCE AND ROMANCE, BEAUTIUF LOVE SSCENE ON VANDULAS, AND HOTELS CHATEAUS, LOVELY MOONLIGHTS TROLLS UNDER BEATU;ITUL SCERNERY AND BOAT TRIPS, ROMANCE AND FABOULSOUS SCENERY, AN A BEAUTIFUL ENDING OF ROMANCE , WEDDING, AND A MOTHER LOVING HER CHILD , MORE THAN A WRONGFUL ABUSIVE RELIGION AND REPUBLICAN CLICK, CHOOSES , TO JOIN THEM ON SUPRISE, ON THIER BEAUTIFUL WED

  17. IEN CHAKEN AND NICOLE CONN, YOUR FORMATS MUST BROADEN WITH TASTE AND ADDED FINSESE, YOU MUST HAVE THE WOMEN ON THE EDGE OF THEIR SEATS LIKE IN ELAN UNDONE AND THE FIRS L WORD, LOVING ANNABLELLE, , THE THREE, MAIN MOVIES WELL WRITTEN WITH SCHENEREY AND ACTION PACKED AND ROMANCE, MATURITY AND EXCITEMENT, THE REAL L WORD IS GOOD SECONDARY AS WELL, YOU NEED TO ADD MUCH MORE SCENES AND THEMES LIKE THE MOVIE L WORD, AND THE FIRST L WORD, HAD GOOD CHARACTERS, BUT , BUT , WHERE THE HELL WAS THE ROMANCE BETWEEN NIKIN AND JILL, PHYSICALLY, GET COUPLES WHO ARE NOT SHY TO MOVIES, SHOW THEM HOLDING HANDS AND BEING ROMANCTIC, AND REAL ROMANCE, SHOW THEM COMING OUT OF THE SAUNA AND SHOWERS, DROPPING TOWELS AND ROBES ON THE FLOOR AND STROLING OVER TO THE BEDSIDE OF HER LADY LOVE AN TH EIR SHE BEGANS HER RIDE OF A ROMANTIC NIGHT BEING ROCKED STEADILY, LIKE IN THE MOVIE L WORLD BY JENNIFER AND PARTNERS, EXCELLENT SCENES , HELENA, AND CONQUESTS, SO YOU MUST ALLOW YOUR CHARACTERS TO HAVE CHEMESTRY,

  18. GET FABULOUS AND EXCITING WHEN YOU ARE WRITING FOR WOMEN, WOMEN NEED ROMANCE IN TASTE AND STYLEY, SEDUCTION WITH STYLE, LIKE HELENA, AND ADDED CHARACTERS LIKE GAMA TA TA, , ADDED FEAT;URES OF REAL INTERACTIONS WITH GRANDPARENTS BRINGING REALISM OF FAMILY NETWORKDS, OF MORE FABOULOUS WOMEN, TALENTED TO THE SCENE, TWISTS AND T;URNS, WITH GAMA GOOD, THE BRAINSTORMING , BRING OUR BOARD OF YOUNG AND OLDER WOMEN GAY WRITERS AND OTHER HUMAN RIGHTS WISE WOMEN TO THE TABLE AND LET YOUR ENTERBITIONS RUN, AND FLOW, WE NEED TO SEE THE COUPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN IN REAL L WORD GO OUT ON FAMILY OUTING , DINNERS, AND PARKS WITH THEIR CHILDREN, AT DISNEY LAND AND BUMPER CARS, MOTHER PFLAAG MEATINGS SHOW THE REAL INTER MIXING WITH PFLAAG AND ITS SEROUSNESS CAUSES, FOR LGBT FAMLIES , YOU IN GRAPH THESE THINGS, THEIR WHOLE SCENE WAS ALMOST ALWAYS SHOT IN THEIR HOUSE WITH KIDS, THATS NOT REALISTIC, GET THE KIDS OUT AND GO DO PARENT STUFF AS A COUPLE , TAKE KIDS SHOPPING AND TO GET AN ICECREAM CONE,

  19. Craig Denney 4 Apr 2012, 1:39am

    Hey Dave, it looks like your coalition government is starting to fall apart?

    Maybe it was not such a good idea after all (for you) to start the Leverson Inquiry?

  20. Dr Robin Guthrie 4 Apr 2012, 1:43am

    How I loathe 21st century, so-called christians.

    Whining, self serving, arrogant hypocrites closeting themselves in 2000 year old drivel started by uneducated tribes in a desert.

    Re-wriiten and re-translated ad-nauseum
    in order to suit whichever agenda the insane wish it too.

    That F.ing book has been altered more than
    Kate Prices t!ts.

    The never changing unalterable word of god CofE anglican religion came into existance when King Henry the Eighth created it in order to divorce and get his b0ll0cks off elsewhere thus divorcing the UK from Rome.

    All my life I have put up with their crap.

    ENOUGH.

    Read your stupid book, as none of them vever do.

    1. “Whining, self serving, arrogant hypocrites”

      I agree so much. These sorts of Christians whine about being “oppressed” whilst at the same time saying to gay people “you shouldn’t be allowed to get married” or “you can’t stay in this B&B” or to women “you shouldn’t be allowed to choose what to do with your own bodies”, et cetera.

      There are Christians in other countries who actually ARE persecuted for their faith, being attacked and even killed for it. Moaning about not being able to wear a cross for practical reasons, or not being allowed to discriminate against gay people when you’re running a business is NOT oppression!

      1. Dr Robin Guthrie 4 Apr 2012, 9:02am

        Red wine fuelled rants are the best.

        1. Having seen your admissions of red wine fuelled rants int the past I did wonder if a good Pinot Noir was involved ;-)

          Most of it made good sense though lol

  21. YOU NEED TO HAVE GRANDUER, WHEN YOU ARE , TAKE THE LADIES WATCHING ON TOUR AND EXURSIONS, LET THEM SEE PARIS, LET THEM FEEL THE WARM BUBBLES IN THE SAUNA , BECAUSE ITS SO REAL AND WELL WRITTEN, THE STEAM , THE PASSION , ROSES, ON ROSES ON , THE PENT HOUSE SUITES IN DIFFE, JILL AND NIKIN SHOULD HAVE HAD MORE ROMANTIC OUTING AND LOVE SCENES , THE PHOTOGRAPER , DID GOOD THE LAS VEGAS TRIP SUITE , THE INNER WORKINGS OF MODELING CAREERS AN MOVIE SETS, GREAT, SEEING SCENERY LOVELY LADIES, VEGAS, ROSE DID GOOD IN HER ROLE, I WOULD HAVE LIKE TO SEE, THE PARTNER OF ROSE THO BEING SOMEWHAT IN A HIGH STRUNG PARTY REALATIONSHIP WITH AN ELEGANT BUT OUT GOING WOMAN, HER PARTNER SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOW TO HAVE MET THRU HER BEAUTY SERVICE AN SALON AN OLDER BEAUTIFUL AQUANTANCE WOMAN WHO TOOK HER BREATH AWAY, AND ENHANCED HER SALON, AND KEPT MAKING PURPOSELY INITMATE MEETINGS WITH HER THAT DEVELOPED INTO HER MOVING IN WITH HER AND HAVING A MORE STABLE REAL FAMILY RELATIONS SHIP THAT SHE REALLY WANTED

  22. THE CHARACTERS MUST FIT, EVEN IN THE MOVIE BLOOMINGTON, I HAVE NOT WATCHED YET, BUT JUST BY LOOKING AT THE COVER OF THE MOVIE, I KNOW THE MOVIE COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE EXCITING , LOVELY LADIES YES THEY WHERE, GOOD ACTORS , I SURE, BUT WELL WRITTEN CHEMISTRY, EXUDES INTO EXCITEMENT OF THE FILEM LIKE ELENA UNDONE, THER ARE ALOT OF LOVELY AND BEAUTIFUL WOMEN, B;UT NOT ALL OF THE HAVE SEX APPEAL, AND ROMANTIC APPEAL ON SCREEN, AND SOME JUST NEED TO BE WITH THE RIGHT CHARACTER, LIKE ELANA ;UNDONE, WE COULD WATCH THE COUPLE MAKE LOVE ALL DAY EVERY DAY, THEIR LOVE SCENES THEIR KISSING SSCENES WHERE FABOULOUS, THE RIGHT CHEMISTRY, HER ACCENTS

  23. THE SECOND REAL L WORD , I HAVE NOT SEEN YET , BUT I SEE FROM THE FRONT PICTURE, ITS MAINLY A YOUNG ADULT AUDIENCE , WHICH IS FINE, THEY NEED A SERIES, BUT WHY NOT MAKE TO GREAT HITS AT THE SAME TIME , TEAM OF WITH A GROUP OF LESSBIAN WRITERS AND EDITORS AND GET BUSY WRITING A MATURE REAL L WORD SERIES ALSO, ARE ENGRAPH BOTH YOUNGER ADULTS AND OLDER WOMEN, AS A FAMILY SERIES, SHOWING FAMILIES WHO ARE LGBT, WITH THEIR CHILDREN AT THE PLAAG MEETINGS, AND HAVING GREAT SCENES, A LESBIAN DALLAS OR DYNASTY MOVIE, GET IT. SOME IN COLLEGE, SOME IN BU;SINEESESS, BRAINSTORM, B;UT WE NEED A GOOD MATURE AD;ULT WOMENS SERIES,, LIKE THE FIRST MOVIE L WORD, THER ARE LESBIAN DOCTORS , ATTORNESYS, POLITICIANS CAN EVEN MAKE CAMEOS, ;LIKE WHEN SHOWING SERIOUS ISSUES OF HUMAN RIGHTS SITUATIONS, SHOW A SHOT OF MAYOR ANNISE PARKER IN HOUSTON AND HER PARTNER AT A PFLAAG MEETING TALKING TO FAMILIES AT A LUNCHEON, THEY MAY NOT MIND THOSE KIND OF SHOTS BEING PUT IN FILM, OF THEM, BECAUSE OF THE CAUSE IS PRUDENT

  24. Dr Robin Guthrie 4 Apr 2012, 2:05am

    Ooops. Forgot to add.

    I sent an E-Mail to my local Conservative MP. Alun Cairns ( Vale of Glamorgan ) asking his opinion on marriage equality.

    I received a House of Commons letter from him in support as whipped by his masters.

    All comments on this topic should be directed to http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk and the consultation closes on 14th June 2012

    Notice that no specific URL is provided.

    PN. Please pick this up as I have not seen this advertised anywhere.

  25. WE WANT TO SEE GOOD WOMEN, MATURE WOMEN, WITH STYLE , ELEGANCE AND SEDUCTION, KNOWING HOW TO ROMANCE HER LADY, WINKING ACROSS THE ROOM, DOING A SHARON STONE, CROSS THE LEGS WITH NO PANTIES BENEATH IN DISCRETE ACCIDENTAL EYECATCHING OF THE OTHER ELEGANT WOMAN FROM THE OTHER TABLE , MEASURMERIZED AND VITALIZED LOOSES HERSELF INTO THIS ELECTAFYING STANCE AS THEY DO THIS DANCE OF PLAY OF EYE CONTACT, THE FINGERS AROUND THE WINE GLASS , TAPING ONES LIPS WITH A SPOT OF WINE, RUNNING HER HANDS OVER HER BEAUTIFUL LEGS, THEN LATER BEFORE DISAPEARING AFTER AN STEAMY BATHROOM INTERLUDE OF HOT ROMANCE , LEAVING A CARD TO BE PLACED IN HER HAND BEFORE SHE LEAVES THE RESTERAU;NT BY THE WAITER, AFTER SHE THOUGHT SHE HAD LOST THE MOST EXCITING ,EXQUISITE, LAIASON SHE HAD EVERY MET WHO TOOK HER TO THE MOON AND BACK, WHAT SHE HAD ALWAYS BEEN MISSING AND ELECTRYFING, BRING ME A LADY SENATORESS, LESBAIAN, SINGLE AND ALL HEROISM, FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, BUT SHOW HER IN DISCRETE LAISONS WITH BEA;UTIFUL WOMEN,

  26. AND BY THE WAY DAVID CAMERON, DID YOU NOT READ TODAY IN FORT WORTH , STAR NEWSPAPER, ABOUT THE TRAVELING EVANGELIST THAT WAS ARRESTED FOR INVADING INTO THE PRIVACY OF YOUNG GIRLS AND WOMEN IN RESTROOMS AN SECRETLY FILMING THEM WHILE HE WAS SUPOSE TO BE FLYING AROUND DOING HOLY CHRISTIAN WORK , AS A PASTOR, THEY ARE A BUNCH OF PERVERTS, AND HIPPOCRITES , WHO PURPOSELY CHOOSE THE TITLES AND JOBS THAT LAND THEM AROUND LITLE KIDS AND WOMEN FOR THEIR EVIL CONSPIRACIES AND AGENDAS OF ILL WILL, THIS MAN WENT OUT AND GOT A PASTORS CERTIFICATE , AN THEN ASKED TO TEACH THE YOUNG ADULT CLASSES, LITTLE KIDS, THESE WHERE THE SAME KIND OF KIDS HE WAS CAUGHT FILMING NUDE AND NAKED IN PRIVATE BATHROOMS, GUESS HOW MANY OF THE LITTLE KIDS AT HIS CHURCH OF EVANGELISM, DO YOU THINK HAVE BEEN HORRIFICALLY EXPLOITED AND EXPOSED BY THIS PERVETED DEVIL THAT IS EVERYTING BUT A REAL PASTOR, A CERTIFICATE AND DEGREE DOES NOT MAKE YOU A REAL PASTOR OR MINISTER, LOVE , KINDNESS, AND DECENCY DOES, AND THAT ONLY,

  27. DAVID CAMERON , YOU DO YOUR JOB, AND PROTECT THE CITIEZENS OF LONDON FROM MALICE, AND HATRED AN HIPPOCRACY, DISCRIMANATION, AND BIGOTRY AND HATE CRIMES, UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS OF OTHERS, DO YOUR JOB, AND PROTECT THE PEOPLE AN THEIR FAMILIES, LIKE THE HEAD OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SAID, THERE IS NO EXCUSE, FOR HATE ATTACKS AND MALICE, , BIGOTRY AND RACISM , IT WILL ALWAYS BE UNJUSTIFIED, AND WRONG, LILKE MURDER AND RAPE, IS A HIGH CRIME WITH HIGH CASULATIES, YOU ACT AGAINST IT AND ALL THOSE WHO PROMOTE IT, YOU PROTECT THE VICTUMS OF IT AN THE CHARACTER OF THE COUNTRIES, FROM IT, NOT ALIGN YOUR SELF WITH ABUSERS, WHO ARE HIPOCRITS AD VIOLATERS, WAKE UP, WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK THESE PEOPLE ARE, YOU WIENT TO SCHOOL WITH SOME OF THE IDIOTS, AND THEY ARE STILL DANGEROUS IDIOTS, BAMBOOSLING AND BRAINSWASHING WEAK IN THE HEAD PEOPLE AND NIAVE PEOPLE, YOU ACT FOR AN ON BEHALF OF FAIRNESS FOR THE VICTUMS OF THEIR ABUSES, AND REPRIMAND THOSE WHO ARE CULPRITS , INSTIGATORS

  28. GODDAM IT MAN, GET THE LEAD OUT , AND GET THE BIGOTTED BUGAS, AND STRAIGHTEN YOUR BACK BONE AND SPINE OUT AS A REAL MAN, ABOUT TOWN MEANING BUSINESS FOR THE PEOPLE , HAVE A SPOT OF TEA, AN BRUNCH, WITH OTHER GOODWILL HUMAN RIGHTS AMBASSADORS, AND TELL THE HATE MONGERING RELIGIONS TO KISS YOUR ASS MAN, BUT THEY HAD BETER TREAT OTHER RIGHT AND FAIR, AND YOU DONT CARE IF THEY INVITE YOU TO ANY SHIN DIG, GET YOUR BY GOLLY, SOCIALIZE WITH PEOPLE YOU CAN BE PROUD OF FOR THE SAME GOOD CAUSES OF HUMANITY, WHY THE HELL WOULD A PAT ON THE BACK OR NOD FROM EVIL , ABUSER ANYWAY, SIDE WITH THE GOOD PEOPLE AND STAY THERE, THEIR FAMILIES AND CHIDREN, AND OTHER FAIR HUMANE PEOPLE IS WORTH WAKING UP TO , JUST KNOWING YOU HAVE DONE RIGHT BY THEIR FAMILIES, WHAT THE HELL YOU CARE IF THE BAD GUYS DONT LIKE YOU , FOR TREATING OTHER RIGHT AND MAKING THEM DO RIGHT BY; OTHERS, DID YOU THINK THEY WOULD APPLAUD YOU FOR TELLING THEM TO STOP THE MALICE AND HATE CRIMES,

    1. Spanner1960 4 Apr 2012, 9:01am

      Christ on a bike, will somebody please sort this woman’s medication out?

  29. Lumi Bast 4 Apr 2012, 5:32am

    1. No religion owns marriage
    2. In the UK, people have freedom of religion
    3. Civil marriage is separate from religious marriage (although churches etc should be free to choose to marry same sex couples if they wish)
    4. The Bible is full of evil and immoral things. I wouldn’t live by it.

  30. Wishy-washy nonsense from David Cameron, he is appears to be taking notes from Rowan Williams by attempting to please neither ‘side’.

  31. Please sign this LibDem petition and include a comment to send a message to the Home Office that you want to see equal marriage in the UK!

    MARRIAGE WITHOUT BORDERS

    http://campaigns.libdems.org.uk/marriagewithoutborders

  32. George Broadhead 4 Apr 2012, 10:31am

    Here is yet more evidence, if it were needed, that Cameron, like the Pope, is a vigorous opponent of Secularism and the National Secular Society, which is a staunch supporter of LGBT rights, is quite right to denounce this.

  33. Christian values are not needed or wanted. Christianity does nothing but opress.

  34. Robert in S. Kensington 4 Apr 2012, 1:51pm

    What is so sad about this is that if this does indeed fail and could well happen, there will be many Tory MPs who will be quite happy to see their party defeated in 2015 over this issue. Tory MP Francis Maude was absolutely right that not supporting equal civil marriage will make the party unelectable. Theresa May’s letter to the Times was far more forceful and unapologetic to the religious bigots, whereas Cameron’s speech wasn’t. Trying to placate both sides isn’t the solution. The far right will stop at nothing to make sure marriage equality is killed off.

    1. The difference is Theresa May was writing an article to be read by the general public. In this meeting Cameron was speaking to a small minority (small minority than LGBT) – that of religious people.

      The worst figure I have seen of Tory’s who would vote against equalising marriage is around 100. So, lets assume they do vote against (and even get a few unsures at the moment to join them – so say 130). The Conservatives are in a coalition – they do not have a majority. Most Lib Dems will vote for equal marriage. Most Labour MPs will vote for equal marriage. Most of the remaining Conservative Lib Dems will vote for equal marriage. Of the minor parties, Green will support equal marriage (ok just 1 vote – but a vote that counts), some SNP will, maybe Plaid, maybe not some of the NI parties.

      So, its likely there will be more than 350 votes in favour.

      The Conservatives know if they lose they will never ever be trusted by LGBT people for more than a generation. Some people still do

      1. not, and I am one of those prepared to let them show they have changed by introducing equal marriage – they fail and they have blown it spectacularly. If they lose the entire gay vote (and other liberal conservative or floating voters who would not trust them any longer) then they risk a severe split. They can not afford that risk.

        Only UKIP or BNP lite voters, or the indoctrinated would disagree.

  35. Craig Denney 4 Apr 2012, 5:12pm

    Is it OK for prime ministers to ‘do God’ in public?

    Vote here: http://tinyurl.com/bqcr96v

  36. if gay marriage isnt introduced the tories are out at the next election. as for religion its outdated it brainwashes people and gives false hope basically religion is for RETARDS

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