Afghanistan: US military investigates soldier raising gay pride flag

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  1. Brave!, arguably foolhardy and career damaging, but nonetheless brave!

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    1. James!  4 Apr 2012, 5:26am  Report
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      Shame. A war for oil is not a place to celebrate gay pride. Time for gay self respect. I really hate this rightwing take over of my rights

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      1. twitless  4 Apr 2012, 7:36am  Report
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        Just so you know, there is no oil in Afghanistan.

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        1. James!  4 Apr 2012, 8:42am  Report
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          What about the pipeline

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          1. Sister Mary Clarence  4 Apr 2012, 10:55am  Report
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            Mmmm, I can’t be the only one thinking what pipeline.

        2. The United States Geological Survey (USGS) estimated in 2006 that northern Afghanistan has an average 1.6 billion (bn) barrels (bbl) of crude oil, 15.7 trillion cubic feet (440 bn m3) of natural gas, and 562 million bbl of natural gas liquids. In December 2011, Afghanistan signed an oil exploration contract with China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) for the development of three oil fields along the Amu Darya river in the north.

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          1. twitless  4 Apr 2012, 5:15pm  Report
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            Twin towers Sept 2001
            Invasion of Iraq October 2001
            United States discovers oil in Afghanistan 2006

            The Psychic invasion of US troops who knew oil would be discovered 5 years later?

          2. @twitless

            I do not think there is a link between oil and Afghanistan … but there is oil there. Just pointing out that saying there is no oil there is factually incorrect.

  2. clm1990  3 Apr 2012, 11:06pm  Report
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    if the military base was in america or any other gay friendly nation then its fair enough but in a country like Afghanistan it would needlessly attract hostile attention and that is something us troops encounter enough of already.

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    1. Yes you have a point. It depends for how long and exactly how visible it was.

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    2. Yes that is a point, it could have brought risks to other personnel. Without knowing all the facts it is just a risk.
      I still think its brave, probably foolish, but brave.

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    3. James!  4 Apr 2012, 5:28am  Report
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      You steel oil and wonder why they want you out

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      1. twitless  4 Apr 2012, 7:37am  Report
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        That’s STEAL and there’s no oil there, just dust.

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        1. So you keep saying but the point that there is oil and natural gas there has already been made so you may want to reassess that belief and move on before you look ‘twitful’, not twitless.

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          1. Sister Mary Clarence  4 Apr 2012, 10:56am  Report
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            Too late!!!

        2. James!  4 Apr 2012, 5:59pm  Report
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          good grief. Steel was put in buy my computer. Is that the best put down, you’ve got muppet

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  3. Yes you have to admire it.

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  4. Mr. Perkins forgot to add the usual “militant” description in his condemnation. He’s probably all for some idiot pastor burning Qurans, but thinks briefly raising a Pride Flag at a well-defended airbase is going to cause riots..

    The Pride Flag colours are also used to signify the Peace movement across the world. Maybe that’s what he really objects to.

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    1. James!  4 Apr 2012, 5:31am  Report
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      The irony a peace flag in a war zone raise d by the aggressors

      Fools

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      1. twitless  4 Apr 2012, 7:38am  Report
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        It became a war zone when they planned the attacks on the twin towers there.

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        1. They didn’t plan the attacks. Terrorist cells inside their country did. What you just did there was like if I said the US as a whole is responsible for all the attacks the bigots, homophobes and racists of American make.

          Don’t generalise. Its lazy thinking.

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          1. twitless  4 Apr 2012, 5:11pm  Report
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            “They” as in they who planned them? A bit more precise for you?

            So none of them were Afghans then?

  5. Photoshopped.

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      1. Jonpol  4 Apr 2012, 4:54am  Report
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        Such a refreshing sight in a desolate environment.

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  6. Dr Robin Guthrie  4 Apr 2012, 2:08am  Report
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    Blowing the heads off children is fine.

    Raising a flag. OHH Shock horror.

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  7. James!  4 Apr 2012, 5:22am  Report
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    Pride in war? Right wing gay Idiots

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  8. GingerlyColors  4 Apr 2012, 7:02am  Report
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    Here we go again. Why is the US Army up in arms over the raising of a flag belonging to a peaceful, loving organisation in Afghanistan? Is it the same US Army that flew Sgt. Bale out of Afghanistan so he did not have to face their justice after he massacred 17 people including 9 children? And is it the same USA who wants Asperger’s sufferer Gary McKinnon to stand trial in their country just because he hacked into a few of their computers? It is about time that we started looking after our own.

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  9. martyn  4 Apr 2012, 7:23am  Report
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    theres a time and a place- and given prevailing attitudes in Afghanistan its not worth soldiers lives (regardless of what you think of the war) if people decide to take pot shots at this.

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  10. myself  4 Apr 2012, 8:22am  Report
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    We shouldn’t be there in a first place.

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  11. Robert White  4 Apr 2012, 8:43am  Report
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    Technically he should have flown the American Flag above the Gay flag, given that it’s a military base and all.

    Of course if the American Flag is flying higher just off camera then its completely kosher.

    There is military protocol to observe in this circumstance.

    Signed “some american gay guy who doesn’t think everything has to be usurped”.

    P.S. Then again, no harm, no foul.

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  12. Pat Buzz  4 Apr 2012, 11:11am  Report
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    The reasons behind the Western forces being in Afganistan are complex to say the least.
    I believe that we should support the concept of the promotion of respect for such identity as LGBT. The flag appears to have been raised in an American compound and we don’t know who would have been able to see it, but certainly the US forces would have saw it.
    Since the occupation of both Afganistan and Iraq we have received evidence of LGBT oppression including beatings and murder being perpetrated in front of those forces without any actions being taken to prevent such treatment.
    Sometimes those who can make a difference need reminding of their obligations under the United Nations declaration of human rights.
    These things don’t always fit in with the local mindset but some people are brave enough to make the stand against the abuse they will receive from stating publicly stating homophobia is abhorrent be from the locals or the biggies from their homeland.

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  13. At least the rainbow flag stands for something unequivocally and unambiguously positive in the world.

    Unlike that gaudy old stars and stripes thing, the import of which has become decidedly tarnished in recent decades.

    Though, really, people in the US, and the US military in particular, takes the fetishisation of vexillological symbolism to an absurd degree. They’re just bits of cloth people!

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  14. Look at all the thumbs down people have given to perfectly legitimate comments. Heck, this will probably get thumbed down too. It seems that anything at all to do with criticising the gay community (which I am a part of, in case you were wondering) gets shot down immediately for no reason. No wonder we have a reputation for being drama queens. Raising a rainbow flag in the middle of Afghanistan was a stupid and dangerous thing to do. It’s an extremely homophobic country, the soldiers do not need another reason to be attacked. Whoever put it up should have thought it through, there’s a time and a place for gay pride, and Afghanistan is not the place for it.

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    1. twitless  4 Apr 2012, 5:18pm  Report
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      It is not the place for equal rights for women either. The right not to have your nose cut off because you are female.

      Equal rights are equal rights wherever you live.

      It is not for us to decide which rights are suitable for them which rights they are ready for.

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  15. chrism  4 Apr 2012, 4:38pm  Report
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    Not sure how I feel about this. It’s a nice gesture of solidarity and I’m touched by the sentiment behind it, but at the same time… it really is a little inappropriate.

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    1. twitless  4 Apr 2012, 5:18pm  Report
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      Why????????????????????

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      1. chrism  4 Apr 2012, 7:10pm  Report
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        I just feel like it’s a little too political. Ideally the military should be scrupulously neutral when it comes to things like race or sexuality. Getting rid of DADT was a big step towards that middle ground, and ending DOMA and getting MEO access will bring us even closer. But hoisting pride flags on base is a step too far in the other direction, IMO.

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  16. A dash of color in an otherwise desolate landscape.

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  17. nice to see that as for the religion its brainwashed crap is out of date freedom from religion is the way forward

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