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Students in California may be asked to declare sexuality when enrolling

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  1. I guess as long as it remains anonymous and is not compulsory that you provide a response, then there should not be a problem.

    After all in the UK for E&D purposes a company will ask about your sexuality but you are not obliged to answer and if you do E&D questionnaires are anonymous!

    1. Craig Nelson 31 Mar 2012, 7:46pm

      Not all equality monitoring is anonymous in the UK – in particular questions about sexual orientation in public services are often linked to your IT record (e.g. for some NHS bodies, presumably not all.)

  2. Colonel "hot lips" Smythe-Fortesque 30 Mar 2012, 4:43pm

    But will it lead to fundamentalists on the staff discriminating against them? Like that drama teacher in an earlier article.

    1. True, which is why I mentioned that they should be non-compulsory to provide a response and for those who do it should remain anonymous!

  3. Land of the free – home of the brave – my fat british ass!!

    1. theGentleWarrior 31 Mar 2012, 1:44pm

      Then you are fat. I enjoy more freedom as a gay man in Massachusetts than you can in Britain.

      My state has taken a case against the federal government to have our marriages recognized on a federal level. You cannot say the same for Britain against the European Union. Actually your European Union Courts recently stated that gay marriage was not a human right I believe.

      Our courts have consistently upheld that marriage is guaranteed to all as we are equal under the Constitution. And I have faith that our case before Supreme Court will say the same.

      Our rights are derived from our Constitution. Yours have been given to you by popular vote, and another popular vote could take them away.

      Finally we achieved all the rights and freedoms that you have, FIRST!

      Before making comments such as yours again, remember
      We are as proud of our culture as you are of yours.

      1. GingerlyColors 1 Apr 2012, 7:43am

        Anybody with a knowledge of geography will realise that both the USA and the Europe (if you don’t include Russia which straddles Europe and Asia) are comparable in size. You enjoy living in Massachusetts which like other New England states are no doubt as gay friendly as Western Europe. While Western Europe and the Scandanavian countries enjoy good gay rights the same cannot be said for some of the Eastern European countries, some of which have declared marriage equality unconstitutional. 2000 miles may separate the UK where marriage equality is on the cards from Latvia where it is unconstitutional but how many miles separate you from some of the less gay friendly southern states of America? As an EU citizen I can live anywhere in 27 countries but there are language barriers – something which you do not have in the USA where most people speaks English.

  4. They should attach a perforated slip asking about interest in options regarding lgbt social support/events etc and which does not require a name or contact details, and which can be posted in a box or pigeon hole somewhere, maybe along with other questionnaires about student interests, so that respondents will not be identifed with any particular group. Seems simple to me.

  5. I understand what they are trying to do and it is a good idea in theory but in practice I am not sure how well it will work. I didn’t come out until half way through my degree and most gay people I knew at uni came out at some point in their first year. Most young people who are in the closet will not declare their sexuality as gay.

    1. I think the majority of gay and certainly bi people are still in the closet, either conciously concealing their sexuality or are in denial and are maybe telling themselves they like to fool around occasionally. This is why I believe the recent ONS survey is way out in their estimation of LGBT

  6. Let’s not hide.

  7. Whew! For a moment I thought we Americans had extinguished the 1950’s unimaginative, cold, industrial drones from our administrations. It is nice to see the rational minds are still in control. I am very impressed how they are capable of taking the complex continuum of physical and mental sexuality and breaking it into a few poorly defined categories, then asking an incognizant, confused teenager with complex needs and feelings to make a choice that will certainly be leaked or misused. It seems more like putting lines and point-values on a harassment dartboard.

    Rather than boxes for tick (check) marks, how about some real 5th grade sex education such as “Sex Ed Part 1 – The Plumbing and How It Works” -and- “Sex Ed Part 2 – Brains and Boners, The Diverse Human Sexuality”. Only then will the LGBT questionnaire have any validity.

    I’ve put more thought into a weekly Algebra quiz than they have done doing this.

    1. You are so right. The complexity and diversity of human sexuality is so often underestimated. Perhaps because it is so complex and diverse?

  8. GingerlyColors 31 Mar 2012, 6:33am

    I think that people’s private lives are their business, not anyone’s elses. People may not disclose their sexuality for personal reasons. We don’t all walk round with pink triangles on our shirts.

    1. Spanner1960 31 Mar 2012, 11:41am

      You don’t have to.
      If they wish to anonymously disclose information, then surely that has to be for the common good. A campus will have a good idea how many black, Hispanic or disabled students it has and cater for them accordingly, but it probably hasn’t got a clue how many LGBT people are there simply because we *don’t* wear pink triangles on our shirts.

  9. Mr Ripley's Asscrack 31 Mar 2012, 12:52pm

    wake me up when you become relevant.

  10. Robert in S. Kensington 31 Mar 2012, 1:43pm

    I have no problem with it provided anonymity is guaranteed and if not, those responsible for discrimination, sacked.

  11. THE LGBT ACLU AND LAMDA LEGAL MUST MAKE SURE THAT THE REASONS FOR ASKING THE CHILDREN TO IDENTIFY AS GAY OR NOT IN CALIFORNNIA SCHOOLS IS STRICTLY FOR HELP WITH BULLYING AND HARRASMENT ISSUES AND OTHER HELP AIDS IN A POSITIVE WAY, BECAUSE THE PROBLEMS WITH HETERSEXUALS IS THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO DO RIGHT BY THE GAY CHILDREN ARE THEIR FAMILIES , AS A WHOLE, AND MANY OF THIS PEOPLE ARE A PART OF HATE RELIGIONS AND TERRORIST GROUPS AND CLINICS TRYING TO BRAINWASH CHILDREN SECRETLY AND FALSY, TRY AND GET THEM TO PRETEND TO BE SOMEONE THEY ARE NOT THRU LIES JUST TO PLEASE THE EGOS OF BIGOTS WHO ARE NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS IN THE FIRST PLACE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTALBLE FOR THE SAFTEY OF ALL THE CHILDREN INCLUDING GAY CHILDREN FROM HARRASMENT OF ALL KINDS , MEANING SEXUAL , AND RACISM, ALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS MUST BE SAFE, FAIR AND EQUAL, IN TREATMENT OF ALL CHILDREN, NO SELF ESTEEM ABUSES, AND STIGMAS , STAFF AN FACULTY INCLUDED FOR THEIR GENDER AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION TO

  12. YOU ARE NOT THERE IN SCHOOLS AS ADMINISTRATION AND FACULTY, AND TEACHERS , TO DO ANYTHING HARMFUL TO THE CHILDREN, AND TO SEE TO IT THAT NO ONE ELSE DOES EITHER, YOU ARE THEIR TO TEACH ACADEMICS AN P.E. CORRICULUMS, AND EXTRA CU;RRIC;UMS OF ARTS , BAND , FUN AREAS FOR CHILDREN AND SCHOOL PARTICIPANTS, THRU COLLEGE, YOU DO NOT TEACH RELIGION, THAT IS NONE OF YOUR BU;SINESS, WET;HER THE CHILDREN BELIEVE IN YOUR OFF OCCULTISM, THAT IS NOT FOR THE CHILDREN TO BE DEALING WITH, THEIR PARENTS ARE ALL IN DIFFERENT TYPES OF RELIGIONS ANYWAY AND MANY OFFENDED B;Y THE OTHERS RELIGIONS, ALL RELIGIONS MUST BE BANNED FROM SCHOOL AND TAUGHT, ONLY MANDATORY KINDNESS AND COURTESY CLASSES , THRU; CARTOONS ELEMENTRY AND JUNIOR HIGH , AND HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE, SERIOUS MATHEW SHEPARD, TAPES AND ALL SCHOOLS MUST HAVE GOOD BUT THORU;GH WOMEN AND MEN SEC;URITY, SPEAKING TO THE CHIDLREN ABOUT BULLYING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND MID Y;EAR, TH;ERE IS A NEED FOR ALL SCHOOLS TO HAVE CAMPUS SECURITY , TO

  13. B;UT THE ACLU AND LAMDA LEGAL , MUST MAKE SURE AND ENSURE THAT THE GAY CHILDREN ARE NOT BEING SINGLED OUT IN CALIFORNIA SCHOOLS TO BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST OR HARRASSED OR IN ANYWAY PASSED OR LOOKED OVER FOR ANYTHING AND SCHOLORSHIP BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY, THE ASKING THEM TO REGISTER AS GAY, HAD BETTER NOT LEAD TO ANY FURTH;ER TRAU;MATIZING ISSUES FOR THOSE CHIDLREN, OR SHCOOLS FACULTY AND ADMINISTRATIONS MUST BE ARRESTED , FIRED AND REPRIMANDED , FOR TARGETTING THE GAY CHILDREN IN THE FIRST PLACE ;AND PUTTING THEIM IN A TARGET ZONE FOR F;URTHER ENDAGERMENT, F;URTHERE MORE NO GAY PERSON HAS TO REGISTER AS GAY IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO , THAT IS A PERSONAL CHOICE OF EACH CHILD, IF YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP THEM THEN YOU HAD BETTER MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT THE HELP AIDS ARE AND LET THEM MAKE THAT DECISIONS ALONG WITH THEIR PARENT,S, BECAUSE IF YOU ENDANGER THOSE CHILDREN BY OPTING FOR THEM TO REGISTER GAY, AN THEY START HAVING PROBLEMS FROM THE SCHOOLS FACULTY AND ADMINISTRATIONS SCHOOLS MUST BE SUED

  14. THE CHILDREN MUST HAVE THE ACLU AND LAMDA LEGAL LOOKING OUT FOR THEM IN THEIR SHCHOOLS BY ENSURING THEIR SAFTEY, THE SNDA MUST BE SIGNED BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND OTHER HUMAN RIGHTS INDIVIDUALS AND ALL OTHER HELP AIDS .TO STOP TRADEGY; AND DISCRIMINATION OF CHIDLRN, AND COLLEGE PARTICIPANTS, THEIR DORMS AND LIVING QUARTERS MUST BE SAFE , SEXUALLY AND RACIALLY, AND GENDER BIASEDLY, THE PROMS MUST BE LGBT INCLUSIVE ALREADY IN EVERY SCHOOL, ALL GAY CHILDREN MUST GET TOGETHER AND NETWORK WITH THE OTHER GAY CHILDREN AND MAKE SURE THEY SHOW UP AND HAVE THEIR GROUPS HAVING FUN AND ENJYOYING THEIR OTHER GAY PEERS AS WELL TO FEEL COMFOTABLE IN THE SETTING AS WELL, AND ANY;HARRASMENT FROM SHCOOL FACULTY AND ADMINISTRATION, THE SCHOOL MUST BE SUED AND PEOPLE FIRED, YOUR JOB IS THEIR TO BUILD SELF ESTEEMS NOT TARE THEM DOWN, AND STIGMATIZE AND TRAUATIZE CHILDREN, OUT OF MALICE, AND BAD UP BRINGING AS AD;ULT, YOUR WEIRD AND DANGEROUS HATE RELIGIONS MUST NOT EVER BE EXCUSED TO HATE CRIMES

  15. YES , THE ADULT LGBT SUMMER CAMPS SOUNDS GREAT, THEIR NEEDED LIKE THE DINAH SHORE IN EVERY CITY, AND TOWN, BUT DO NOT FORGET, YOUR MUST ENSURE THAT YOUR LGBT CHILDREN NEED YOUR HELP AND YOU MUST AS THE ADULT HELP ENSURE THEIR LGBT SUMMER CAMPS AS WELL AND TEENS CENTERS AND SHELTERS, LIKE THE AL FORNEY SHELTER, INCLUDING HAVING LGBT MENTORS GOING IN AN TAKING THEM ON FIELD TRIPS TO ZOOS, AND BUSINESSES, TOURS, AND JUST SPENDING TIME AS GAY FAMILY MENTORS, DROPPING IN TO LET THEM NO THAT YOU CARE, AND THAT YOU ARE THERE FOR THEM, AS LAWYERS AND DOCTORS , POLITICANS, POLICE, FIREPEOPLE, B;USINESS SECTORS AND SPORT PEOPLE ALL GAY , THEY NEED TO SEE YOU ALL COLORS OF YOU WORKING TOGETHER FOR THEM, AS MENTORS, THIS ENCOURAGES THEM IN THEIR BUSINESS, DESIRES, AND GOALS, HELPS THEIR SELF ESTEEM, TO NO THEY HAVE GAY BIG SISTER AN BROTHER , A;UNT , UNCLES, GRANDPARENTS , WHO CARE, AN SHARE TIME , AND EDCATING THEM ON THE THINGS OUT THERE FOR THEM WHERE YOU ARE THAT IS SAFE AND NICE,

  16. DONT EVER LET HETERSEXUAL MEN DEGRADE YOUR CHARACTER AS GAY PARENTS AND GAY FAMIIES, BY CAUSING YOU TO TRAU;MATIZE YOURSELVES AND CHILDREN MORE, BY INVITING BAD AN DANGEROUS HETERSEXUAL MEN INTO YOUR PRIVATE ATMOSPHERERS THAT ARE SUPPOSE TO BE SAFE AND OFF LIMITS TO DANGEROUS PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY HETETRSEXUAL MEN WHO DONT RESPECT ANYONE, NOT EVEN THEMSELVES, THE BISEXUAL MEN HAD BETTER BE MADE BY THE NATIONS GAY LGBT ASSOCIATIONS BE MAKE CLEAR THAT THEY HAD BETTER RESPECT THE REST OF THE GAY PEOPLE AND GENDERS, ARE THEY WILL BE ARRESTED ALSO, FOR THEIR BEHAVIOR LIKE THE HETERSEXUAL MEN, YOU CANNOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO AROUND ASSUALTING OTHER BECAUSE THEY ARE PERVETED AND DANGEROUS LIKE THE MALE SECTORS IN HETERO AND BISEXUALS SOME OF THEM, DO, THATS A HIGH CRIME, PERIOD, BE SAFE BY FINDING GENUINE LIFE LONG FRIENDS WHO ARE NOT DANGEROUS AND ENTRUSIVE ACROSS YOUR BORDERS AND BOUNDARIES AND AB;USIVE, GET RID OF THE REST, ALL COUNTRIES AND THE UNITED STATES MUST HAVE A DEMOCRATIC LIBERTY

    1. Spanner1960 1 Apr 2012, 11:30am

      Oh please STFU with your rabid rants Carrie. Nobody wants to read your crap.

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