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Uruguayan man given landmark residence permit to live with husband in Italy

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  1. This is good news – an Italian court recognising a same sex marriage. Perhaps the first chink of light for Italian marriage quality now that Berluconi has gone.

    1. In Italy the left parties are as homophobic as Berlusconi, that’s the major obstacle to marriage equlality.

      1. Hopefully the left will change as the marriage equality movement in Europe grows in strength. Italy will increasingly look backwards and unprogressive if it doesn’t change to at least allow the first step of civil unions.

        1. Italians look with disdain at the progress other countries are doing on gay rights. They are proud of their homophobia.
          Sorry for my english.

          1. Italy is both financially and morally bankrupt. It will be unto the courts, as usual in Italy, to create a more just and equal society.

  2. Well done to the two involved in their small but very significant victory!

    There is only one thing that is undermining family values and that is the Catholic Church and most other religious bigots!

    1. There is no such thing as family values.

  3. Jock S. Trap 27 Mar 2012, 1:15pm

    A good step. Lets hope the Italian government now start to see that marriage equality is justified and honourable.

    1. Don’t hold your breath.

  4. If they had a Civil Partnership I don’t think he would get the residence permit. Another reason to bring on equal marriage.

    1. What is the legal basis of your assertion? Surely the same freedom of movement ruling would apply?

      However equal marriage should make it harder for other countries to deny recognition of such marriages if we get tough with recognition of their straight marriages.

      1. Marriage is a world wide recognised institution. In this country you cannot marry more then one person, but foreigner who has legally married 4 women in another country could legally bring all of them here as his wives and get them residency status.

        CP is a form of local law and therefore is not recognized internationally as a valid alternative to marriage.
        Latest ECHR ruling confirms inferior status of CPs.

        http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2008/01/22/euro-court-rules-gay-couples-eligible-to-adopt/

      2. What roux says is true. A UK Civil Partnership would have little to no value in Italy under the EU Freedom of Movement regulations. Under the rules CP’s only get automatic recognition in countries which also have a CP system and no automatic recognition in countries that don’t such as Italy. The situation is different if a marriage certificate is held from one of the countries that has implemented marriage equality Italy also has a system of marriage and therefore the courts have said they have to accept overseas marriage certificates. This is a clear example of the limitations of the British CP system.

  5. Homer Simpson: “Look at this country! You are gay!”.

    1. Yes, we are, what’s your point?

      1. It’s a pun on the name of Ur-u-guay ;-)

        On topic, Italy needs to be dragged kicking and screaming into the modern world on many fronts. This is just one of them. I honestly can’t believe a founding member of the EU is still so backward nearly 50 years on.

        Mind you, with The Vatican being so powerful there, maybe we have all the reasons needed completely on show.

    2. GingerlyColors 28 Mar 2012, 7:57am

      Wasn’t that in the episode Bart vs. Australia, when Bart caused a diplomatic incident with Canbera?

  6. I see David Cameron is being accused of taking a “cash for Access” bung from the Daily Telegraph owners to water down gay marriage.

    1. See “archbishop cranmer” blog.

      PN is not allowing me to post the link

  7. Darth Dacre 27 Mar 2012, 4:03pm

    Link to the judgement please PN, at the bottom of the article?

  8. GingerlyColors 28 Mar 2012, 7:54am

    Interesting. Neither of the two men were Spanish citizens although one of them is an EU citizen. Does that mean that anybody from within the EU, including those living in countries where marriage equality is unconstitutional can legally marry in Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium and soon, Denmark, can have their marriage legally recognised in their home country? Therefore that means I can go to Spain and marry another man, even if he is not a Spanish or even an EU citizen and have it recognised here? If so instead of waiting for the UK government to introduce marriage equality we could elope to Spain and get married there
    Hopefully Uruguary will join Argentina and Canada in introducing nationwide marriage equality. Elsewhere in the New World Brazil, Mexico and the USA have marriage equality in some states.

    1. Head for Portugal rather than Spain if you want to pursue that strategy. The Spanish government imposes residency requirements on marriages performed within the country. The Portuguese government doesn’t.

      Although same-sex marriages from either country are legally treated as a Civil Partnership the moment you return to the UK your Iberian marriage will be automatically recognised as such in many jurisdictions, something which cannot be said of UK CPs.

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