It’s great that we have some really good names coming out in support of equal marriage. Yes, the average religious right wing character isn’t Starbucks’ core demographic, but it still requires strength of character to risk profits to support a belief in equality.
I hope many more companies will follow their lead.
I hate starbucks… The only reason theyre doing this now is because public opinion is this way now. Theyre a greedy corporation.
When I lived in Brighton, they opened up a shop in a boho, independant area, full of awesome little family-run coffee shops. They open against public support and without planning permission. The local government didnt want them there. But they paid the fine (the only punishment available) and opened anyway. Selling at a loss for a long time and with weekly protests outside. All just to put their name/mark on a groovy little hip area. They didn’t need to be there. They are scum! Pretending to be liberal but really just catering to their market.
That is all this is. Did they support gays when we were being gay bashed in the eighties? No! I could go on. Starbucks is just a corporation, and like all corporations it’s the bottom line, not you, that matters.
Please don’t foster brand loyalty. They really don’t deserve you and your pink pound.
when we eradicate homophobia and transphobia from the world, are we going to whinge at the world for the times when homophobia was a problem or just thank them?
a lot has changed since the 80s. so what if they are doing it for PR? its still going to be a massive help to the cause, so we are getting something out of it too. its better than the go compare guy, what benefit does that have for the world?
i have a great deal of sympathy for companies that see massive losses and even closure thanks to a new addition to some multinational chain. i wish there was some sort of system to stop it. thats a job for the people interested though, there have been protests about it all over the world and one day I hope they will achieve just as much as the cause for marriage equality or gay rights. But they are two separate issues.
If you don’t like Starbucks don’t buy coffee there. Support your local coffee shop.
Signing the petition doesn’t financially benefit Starbucks in any way, but it sends a message to NOM that their boycott is pointless and feeble, like their homophobia.
Well said Joss. I’ve just signed the petition.
oh they benefit financially BIG time
I suppose the main problem with Starbucks is that they are a big American brand, like McDonalds monopolising the market. How many traditional coffee shops, the sort run by old ladies have gone to the wall because of them? The Mergers And Monopolies Commission really need to rein in some of these companies.
I signed it and I hope that more companies follow suit.
Thanked, Signed AND shared!!!!
Thank you Starbucks!!!
I’m sure the coffee bean farmers are grateful to the gay marriage opponents for boosting the sale of their crops! Thanks for your support of the LGBT community, Starbucks.
Unbelievable! We don’t even have that many signatures in the petition for the Coalition for Equal Marriage. The latest count is 33,550, compared to 330,555+ for the Coalition for Marriage (our opponents). What does that say about us? You should all be very concerned. Don’t think for a minute our enemies can’t thwart the government’s attempt to legalise same-sex civil marriage. They’re well organised, well funded and are well connected both here and abroad. Sign the petition and get everyone you know, family, friends, gay or straight to do the same.
Pink News, why isn’t the C4EM petition on the home page? No wonder it’s not getting many hits. Latest count is 33,770 compared to the almost 331,000 C4M has accrued so far. Ours is a rather dismally low turnout and I’ve no doubt it will never surpass that of our opponents. People are just too indifferent or just don’t care about their rights it seems.
Well Robert, for starters the Starbucks petition is a global campaign and the C4EM one is UK based – it even requests a UK post code when voting, which will be a deterrent to international visitors. Also, this is the first I’ve heard of it, so perhaps it needs better marketing? Rather than asking why it isn’t on the front page here, in a comments section, why don’t you contact the Pink News staff directly and request that they feature it more prominently? And what about contacting other LGBT media outlets? After Elton (and Ellen), Bi Community News/BiMedia.org and so on? There are many LGBT websites – use them! Those opposed to Equal Human Rights are using everything they can – websites, newsletters, churches etc etc. You can’t just set up a counter petition and expect it to take off. It needs pushing as hard as the C4M petition.
I’m reasonably in touch with the community and I didn’t even know about this, which suggests your marketing isn’t sufficient. Spread the word!
Phoenix, I did actually email PN yesterday about that. I’m going to contact other sites too. Thanks for your input.
And I just read after signing it that the petition is restricted to UK residents. And you’re wondering why an international petition has had a greater response?
As of right now, the SOU petition has 105, 368. And NOM? 16, 667. Over 6 times MORE people are supporting Starbucks!
Now, I’m not a fan of their coffee, but that’s impressive and just goes to show how out of touch NOM and groups like them are.
And by now, the SOU petition has 180,569 signatures (NOM only 17916).
So over 10 times MORE people are supporting Starbucks now!
Though I’ve never visited a Starbucks store in my life, I might now consider doing it, just in order to thank them and to score off NOM.
They are well past 200,000 now and aiming for 250,000. Way to go!!
I think that by supporting Starbucks, a corporation that profited $382 million last year, you are going against the mandate.
they support gay rights because it is profitable.
“In a Gallup poll, 70 percent of people in the 18-to-34 age range favored same-sex marriage, while only 39 percent of people 55 and older did.
More so than politicians, corporations play the long game, trying to engender loyalty for decades to come, and they’re famously fixated on consumers in their 20s and 30s. ” NYTimes
It’s the part about corporations playing the long game and not polititians. Do we want to support corporations that are thinking about profit by getting political? I’m not sure this is a good idea until the heads of corporations actually are financially liable for their decisions, good or bad. Corporations are not people. This has to be changed.