Mr Farron is unwise to attack an organisation which has done such excellent work. Let’s hope CARE continue to prosper and combat the influence of aggressive secularism in public life.
Poor Jean is clearly mentally ill and is in urgent need of psychiatric treatment!
Your ship has sailed bitch. All you have left is nothing us like a stinking fart in a lift. Go to hull you chant
I think Mr Farron might be trying to sit on a very fine fence.
He is trying not to sounds homophobic, when he loves CARE – he is an evangelical Christian.
Yet he won’t walk away from CARE when there is evidence to demonstrate their homophobia.
Oh, come on! “Jean” is blatantly a PN regular posing under a pseudonym to stir things up. Nobody without a vested interest in gay issues would haunt these threads and be first off the mark with something “controversial” nearly every time without knowing how the system works. Time and again, they act – we react.
There’s nothing commendable about playing devil’s advocate on a gay news site (albeit in a wig and crucifix) when REAL deranged trolls badger us daily. Literally the definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. They should consider that next time some hate monger unloads reams of damning scripture for every vulnerable Tom, Dick, and Harry to be affected by.
How do you explain Keith then?
@Paolo — a very good point !
This forum is riddled with nasty bigots, who think the normal rules of decent engagement do not apply to them, who think they have a godgiven right to spout and pontificate small-minded and bigoted and disgusting views.
I think of Jean, Keith, Skinner, and John who have no check on their obsessive need to spill the foul slops of their minds.
Is this all their religion has come to — trolling on a LGBT website ?
Pink News, once again, please remove this idiot, in fact ban it from commenting altogether. Thank you.
Poor Jean is clearly mentally ill and is in obvious need of psychiatric treatment!
Wakey wakey Tim Farron!! Try digging a little deeper here and start appreciating just who these people are and how they do their grubby business. As Jean (who systematically cruises gay sites to deploy acid drops at every opportunity) has just so aptly demonstrated, discriminating on the grounds of sexuality is all these loopy people care about. They crave associations with MPs and other British institutions such as Oxford University for some undeserved kudos for their creepy activities. People like you should be investigating this and doing something about it, not making excuses for them with a bit of occasional finger-wagging. Please get real.
Let Jean stay… He’s such an obvious shill
for the religious right. What he says provides intel on what his handlers think constitutes intelligent opposition?
He’s laughable really … What a waste of a life defending the homophobe dinosaur agenda.
@Jennifer — Jean’s nothing: a poor troll.
Skinner, Keith, John are parodies of the religious maniac.
And you are right: wastes of lives defending the homophobe dinosaur agenda. How can they have such little to fill their time on this incredible planet ?
Just because it says Christian on the tin, doesn’t mean that it is Christian in the tin. Yes, get real Mr Farron!
Mr Farron already has a record of voting against gay rights. He voted against the Equality Regulations. He is not an appropriate person to hold national office in his party.
I was as surprised as you about his voting record, but as President of the Party wasn’t he voted in by the members? Or was it the MPs who voted him in? Sorry for showing my ignorance about these things!
Doesn’t surprise me one bit. They’re in all three parties. There is a very sinister agenda on the religious right in the UK to insinuate people into the political system, the sort of thing already widespread in American politicking if you look at the makeup of the republican party and the candidates running for the presidency. They’re using the same tactics, pouring financial support into campaigns in a very well orchestrated and organised manner and it wouldn’t suprise me if they’re getting help from their American counterparts. I wish there were a way to find out who is funding them. C4M has an extremely aggressive agenda to make sure all of its supporters contact their MPs to vote against marriage equality which is nothing more than a veiled ultimatum to unseat them in elections if they vote against their wishes, political blackmail if you will, corruption of the worst kind, but then that’s what much of religion is all about if you look at its history.
It’s not just politics, these groups seek tacit support from other prominent institutions – check out what’s happening at Oxford this coming weekend – http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/03/01/graduate-hands-back-oxford-degree-over-christian-concern-conference/. It really is a mystery how these people are funded. If you look into this conference, you will see that all the places for the delegates are paid for, they simply have to demonstrate their commitment to fundamentalist readings of the Bible (i.e., amenability to brainwashing) for a very nice weekend at Oxford. This is the third such conference at Oxford, these people arrived with the current, US-loving Vice-Chancellor, Professor Andrew Hamilton. They must be paying him / Oxford a fortune for the facilities and branding that they are getting (e.g., http://wilberforceacademy.org.uk/).
Is Mr Farron trying to pretend he is not homophobic. He is deluding himself if he really believes this, his prior comments and voting record belies his rank and putrid homophoba.
The fact that CARE states that interns are required to believe in the “entire trustworthiness and supreme authority” of the Bible” speaks volumes. Farron is at best disingenuous. I wouldn’t trust him no further than I could throw him. I wonder if he signed on to C4M not that it would come as any surprise. Bigots are notorious for playing both sides especially those who claim to be “christian”.
I cant read my bible anymore that I keep in the bathroom. too many pages missing
Surely Mr Farron is deliberatey failing to see the obvious – CARE’s scheme is not an altruistic one to benefit poor students. It is a deliberate ploy to fasttrack potential politicians who will support their views into parliament.
An incidental effect of the scheme is to make it that much more difficult for genuinely poor students who do not want to sign up to the CARE agenda to get a chance to be an intern.
Aren’t CARE are using the Church’s money to buy inluence and insert their activists into positions of power?
Exactly Benji – The scheme is only open to a minority of young Christians – those who believe in the “supreme authority” of the bible (i.e. the world was made in 6 days 6000 years ago). While in a free country there’s nothing wrong with Christian fundamentalists running for MP or working as interns etc, the point is (and one which Tim Farron has not acknowledged) that many people (nearly 9000 who have signed the petition and probably many more) feel it is inappropriate to fund the scheme using money from a charity that has also co-sponsored a gay-cure event in 2009 and whose leadership includes those who were actively promoting such concepts as recently as January this year.
All the MPs who have defended the scheme fall back on comments such as how good the individual interns are or how they have not sought to influence them or vice versa – comments which miss the point of the petition entirely.
Notwithstanding the Ben Bradshaw claims, it is a matter of public record that CARE sponsored the 2009 gay cure event and that one of their Trustees and Directors holds a governance role in an organisation that promoted the “gay leper” event two months ago. On that evidence alone he should end his links with the intern scheme.
If he feels that a scheme which provides access to parliament only for young people from the Christian Right – and only to straight MPs – is a good thing, he should say so.
It really is rather peculiar and alarming that actively campaigning for discrimination against LGBT people is apparently what counts as a charitable objective in the UK.
Sadly Alan the Charity Commission are not known for taking action of any kind against any charity or complaint against a charity. Someone told me that they have never struck off a charity in a number of years. As well as CARE, Anglican Mainstream are a registered charity. One of CARE’s Directors and Trustees is also a Director & Trustee of AM.
Anglican Mainstream supported the “gay leper” event in January this year and CARE’s Trustee even moderated part of the conference.
Tim Farron is a religious extremist bigot.
By defending his links to the christian taliban (of which CARE is a part) he is openly endorsing homophobic bigotry.
Tim Farron is a bigotted scumbag with a disgustingly bigotted voting record.
He should be expelled from the LibDems.
Unless of course the LibDems also support homophobic extremism./
There is no way Farron can remain as President of the LibDems while supporting the taliban.
Tim Farron is an MP – he is a public servant. And we are his employers.
I think we all need to give him some feedback on his poor performance as an MP thanks to his support of homophobic extremism.
Contact him at:
His constituency office telephone number is 01539 723403
He needs to realise that supporting the christian taliban (aka CARE) is a very bad idea.
Does Nick Clegg still exist? He is certainly the most invisible person I’ve ever known to hold high office. Shouldn’t he be sorting this Farron fiasco out? Bizarre that Callmedave is being credited with being so LGBT-friendly whilst his coalition partners are looking increasingly like the Mary Whitehouse fan club. I guess it’s going to be a Tory vote from me at the forthcoming local elections – my first since my hormone-excessive teenage days! Callmedave deserves it, I think. Farron doesn’t.
i think cleggie’s hiding from dAVID
Now, now. That’s not nice.
Public schoolboy Cleggs 11 is not hiding from me.
He’s too busy rimming Callmedave.
Nick Clegg is a spineless little toerag. He should sack Tim Farron (because through his defence of CARE, Tim Farron defends child abuse of vulnerable teenagers)
There won’t be many gay votes for Tories if marriage equality fails come 2015. Conservative MP Francis Maude hit the nail on the head when he said that failure to support it would make the party unelectable. Let’s not forget, it only scraped by in the last election, a hung parliament. It needs every gay vote it can get whether some agree or disagree with marriage equality or not. Pragmatism must take precedence and they should vote for it, otherwise, the Tory party won’t win. Ed Miliband now needs to make marriage equality official Labour Party policy pitching two of the three parties against the Tories. I for one won’t be voting for the Tories if this fails. Farron should leave the Liberal Democratic Party and join the Tories where he belongs given his past voting record.
The only way to drag these closet homophobe politicians out their closet is to ask them whether they are in favour of gay marriage. I should imagine CARE is totally against it and will be lobbying all THEIR MP’s to vote against. Incidentally isn’t this a perfect example of a non-elected lobbying group having influence over our legislating MP’s?
Exactly, they’re doing the dirty work of the CoE and Roman Catholic cults, among others. About time they were given their marching orders. Two petitions should be devised, one to ban them from interfering in the civil matters of the political process and two, calling for the abolition of the House of Lords, a totally unelected, anachronistic, undemocratic, non-representative institution with the power to vote against us and our rights.
John, you are right, CARE are totally against marriage equality. Their Chief Executive Nola Leach is a Director of the Coalition for Marriage. They are currently advertising for volunteers for a “special project” on their website – I wonder if that could be a mass mailing campaign of the type you hint at ?!
Absolutely, it is a mailing campaign of the type John is hinting at. C4M is a very well organised group, well funded and well connected. Its sole purpose is to infest parliament with antigay politicians as well as threaten any of them by unseating them in elections if they don’t carry out their wishes. I suspect some of it has been orchestrated by their allies in America. This is more to do with buying elections, corruption of the worst kind and the antithesis of democracy, but then religion isn’t democratic is it. Just look at what they’re doing already. They want a theocracy, nothing more, nothing less, aided and abetted primarily by the CoE and Roman cults.
And they’ll stop at nothing. Just look at the bile coming out of Norman Wells mouth of the Family Education Trust. Absolutely despicable. The lies that man is spreading is tantamount to a hate crime.
Just checked Tim Farrons voting record on the Christian Institute website. They have given him EIGHT GREEN ticks and just THREE red crosses. To me- that says it all about Mr.Farron. Avoid.
Sadly the other 14 are sticking to their guns… Our democracy is broken. We are the sick man of Europe again. We have MP’s who think it is OK to have loony religious freaks who want to “cure” us working for them.
I hate these people. and I hate the fact that they make me hate them even more.
Tim Farron seems to have confirmed that he will look for other sources for paid internships beyond next year. He hasn’t said he won’t have a CARE intern ever again, but it’s a step closer.
Thanks to everyone for getting in contact with him.
Thanks to Harry Small on Twitter for getting Tim to make this statement;
Thank you Phillip! I did have to exercise my cross-examination skills but it seems to have ended up in the right place.
(I am @hsmall: not all Harry’s here are me :-) )
Re-reading this, he does say that he will look to other sources for the future. I think maybe Pinknews could update this article with that information perhaps?
Hi Harry, they’re already on it! Hopefully they can get him to clarify what he means in a public statement. Thanks for all your help.
Fixing gays huh – heres a link re anti gay people who were outed.
Note the first one – George Rekers.
Founder of the hate group FRC
And was head of Narth – the national association for research and treatment of homosexuality
Rekers got outed about 9 mos ago
the bigger deal was he had about $15000 to pay to hire a boy from ‘rentboy.com’
To “carry his baggage” on a two week trip to Europe.
The evil ones have discovered that hate pays great dividends.
Tim Farron is a homophobe in my book. He voted against the Sexual Equality Regulations, and has taken the side of religion against gay rights at every opportunity. His very presence in the LibDems is something which prevents me from giving them my support – particularly because he has been touted as a possible replacement for Nick Clegg. He is powerfully placed in the LibDems, which means it will make it very difficult to vote for them.