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  1. John Fashanu is clearly now wanting attention!

    His comment “It’s a mach man’s game” implies that being gay means you are not macho! What a complete and utter moron he is turning out to be

  2. Mumbo Jumbo 19 Mar 2012, 10:17am

    Watching Amal’s BBC 3 documentary a few weeks back I thought John Fashanu came across as a creepy and self-important individual with unresolved issues. This latest episode confirms my suspicions.

    1. Agreed. John Fashanu is not a disinterested person and I doubt he is the right person to comment on his brothers sexuality. Recent evidence has shown that young gay people suffer less stress and are leas prone to suicide attempts if they have support, esp from family. Justin clearly did not get the support he deserved.

      This statement now is all very strange. Why bother to put it this way? His daughter is certainly a lot more comfortable with having a gay relative.

      Stranger and stranger.

      1. Don Harrisoin 19 Mar 2012, 4:47pm

        He is worried about the Fashanu name – how sad

        1. It certainly wasn’t Justin who brought Fashnu name into disrepute, but daughter of the man who did is doing great job in restoring its reputation. Amai got more balls then her father.

          1. I agree, Amai should be praised not only for the attempts to restore her Uncles reputation, but also for addressing the continued oppression of other gay football players.

    2. Sister Mary Clarence 19 Mar 2012, 11:00am

      I watched is as well and watched her creeping realisation that her father (John) was not the man she thought he was.

      Even with the laps and bounds in tolerance that have come over the last 20 years, his own brother still denies the truth about his brother.

      In my view John Fashanu is utter scum.

    3. I agree, very good comments . . .

      I also saw the BBC3 documentary, and thought John Fashanu came across as rather creepy and disturbed. I was particulary concerned about John’s attempts which he discussed openly, to protect his daughter Amai from the truth about her uncle.

      In contrast, I thought Amai faced the truth about her uncle with great courage, dignity and compassion . . . unlike her father.

  3. “I’m heterosexual, will I make it on to the front page of the newspapers?”

    What an intelligent, inciteful comment to make.

    1. Is he really insinuating that the private lives of heterosexual people don’t make headlines?!?!

    2. What an evil homophobe – Justin displayed such courage in coming out and then his brother thinks he can just put him back in the closet because it doesn’t suit him for his brother to have been gay. The guy is seriously deranged – who does he think he is god?

  4. Comes out as gay, ruins his professional career, to get attention?

    John Fashanu’s appalling homophobia is beyond belief.

  5. John Fashanu sounds bitter, resentful, and clearly deeply disliking his brother. His daughter’s documentary pissed him off because he was shown up for what he is. He is evidencing all the unmistakable signs of homophobia so typical of so many in football business in the UK. A really sad individual.

    1. Perhaps he is in serious denial because he feels guilty over his brother’s death?

      1. Sister Mary Clarence 19 Mar 2012, 10:23pm

        Not entirely unfounded guilt either

  6. I read a precis of this on the internet yesterday, and my first reaction was that John Fashanu was displaying latent homophobia and whilst it should be confronted and condemned it should be done with sensitivity given that the grieving process can take a very long time for some people and make us lack objectivity over some issues.

    Then …. I heard the report and decided he might still be grieving by there was nothing latent about John Fashanu’s homophobia. He deliberately crafted his words to undermine people who are gay. I am glad many of those linked to Justin are distancing themselves from his comments.

    1. Don Harrisoin 22 Mar 2012, 6:37pm

      In 1940s, Adolf Hitler established Extermination Camp to kill countless gay men.

  7. So he criticises his brother for what he sees as coming out purely to gain headlines and to make money by selling stories, whilst at the same time claiming it was embarrassing to the family.

    As he considered that this little outburst of his may lead to others coming forward to sell their stories to either back up/disprove his point. Surely then yet more embarassment for the family.

    He should have kept his mouth shut and let his brother rest in peace.

    1. In those days if you were famous or a celebrity tabloids would give you only one choice, take the money and cooperate or would make up even more stuff about you, so in the end it looked like you have sold yourself to press

      1. Staircase2 23 Mar 2012, 4:02pm

        Well said!

        And I don’t for a second believe that John doesnt know this…

  8. Peter & Michael 19 Mar 2012, 10:52am

    Homophobia comes in many forms of discrimination, why on earth is John Fashanu still living in denial of his brother’s sexuality. If Justin had been alive today and had the full support of his family, we feel sure that he would have had a great career in football. Homophobia has no place in sport, either.

  9. His attitude towards homosexuality stems from his west african roots, these days he spends most of his time in Nigeria

    1. Paddyswurds 19 Mar 2012, 12:08pm

      @dan…
      ….is it possible this pig is also an xtian? Nigeria is the right place for him. I wonder is it possible to have his British Passport withdrawn?

    2. Good riddens!

    3. Pity he does not keep there. He’s a creep.

    4. Staircase2 23 Mar 2012, 4:07pm

      I don’t think so, Dan – I suspect that he was homophobic long before spending any sizeable amount of time in Nigeria.

      That he does now have extensive business dealings in Nigeria probably does have an impact on what he’s now saying though – and for that he should be thoroughly ashamed of himself for selling the memory of his dead brother down the River Benue.

  10. John Fashanu rejected his brother for being gay.

    John Fashanu is bigotted scum who deserves condemnation for his monstrous bigotry.

    Make no mistake John Fashanu was partly responsible for driving his own brother to his suicide.

    Why such a hate-filled monstrous bigot as John Fashanu is even approached for a comment about gay footballers (when he himself helped drive his own brother to his death) is really appalling.

    Are talkSPORT so desperate for commentators that they seek the opinion of bigots like John Fashanu?

  11. So no top-flight footballer could be gay, because it’s a “macho man’s game”.

    What does that make Gareth Thomas and the game of rugby? A weak and feeble princess playing a wimp’s sport?

    Perhaps John Fashanu would like to say that to Gareth Thomas’s face. I’m sure the rest of us would like to watch.

    1. Sister Mary Clarence 19 Mar 2012, 11:03am

      Absolutely, the guy is build like a brick sh1t house, and I don’t see anyone facing up to his with all this homophobic cr@p.

      Should maybe stick Gareth Thomas and John Fashanu in a room and see who is the bigger man.

    2. Oh yes! Sell me a ticket to that one.
      Seriously John f is clearly a very damaged man who has had homophobia drilled into him somehow. I feel sorry for him but don’t really want to hear anymore of his archaic views.

  12. John Fashanu is an appalling homophobic bigot.

    He is a disgrace to his heritage.

    A sad, bitter, homophobic bigot who helped drive his own brother to his suicide.

    John Fashanu is scum of the earth.

    1. Paddyswurds 19 Mar 2012, 12:01pm

      @dAVID…
      ….i agree. Can you imagine what family life was like for Justin when this bigoted homophobe was around. As someone else said homophobia twinned with appalling jealousy of his own very talented brother was what inspired this idiot and most certainly contributed to his brothers untimely death. He should be hanging his head in shame now that the whole world is painfully aware of his attitude. Even his own daughter now knows what a vile being he is.

  13. “I have never come across a gay footballer.” – does this ignorant prick think any footballer would come out to him considering the way he treated his own brother when he did?! What a twat.

  14. Paddyswurds 19 Mar 2012, 11:23am

    Having watched Amal Fashanu’s documentary about her beloved Uncle, i was absolutely livid by the end of the documentary. John Fashanu and his ilk are the reasons there are no out Gay footballers. The man is a disgrace to his heritage and humanity in general. An appalling bigot. Fortunately this neanderthals star is well below the horizon and those who kow tow to him to keep reminding us that this idiot still exists are guilty of a certain degree of homophobia as well. If anyone has ever brought stress to their family this homophobic bigot is the one who is guilty and still he keeps dredging it up.
    There is only one publicity seeker in this story and that is the washed up John Fashanu, arch bigot and homophobe and this appalling behaviour is what he will be remembered for, not his mediocre football skills..

  15. I find the “he came out just to get attention” insinuation just doesn’t stack up.
    Most LGBTs have to muster a huge amount of courage to come out knowing the hostility that comes from certain quarters and Justin came out in a notoriously homophobic environment, with a latently bigoted brother. Why does John imagine some gay people spend so long in the closet if it’s just “attention seeking” behaviour?
    If it was simply for attention he could have hired a hooker or snorted coke in a nightclub just to get tabloid headlines.
    John Fashanu just comes across as a jealous homophobe who resented his brother’s superior skills on the pitch, spreading malicious stories about a guy who can’t answer back.

    1. John Fashnu, at best average player, became tv personality and got to where he is now ONLY thanks to having famous gay brother Justin, who was the first £1mln black player. Now that he lives in Nigeria he resents the fact that he had a gay brother.

      1. Exactly. John was always second best to Justin , for John to use their mother’s illness as an excuse for his appalling behaviour is utterly appalling.

        Amal did a fine job with the documentary, and clearly loved her uncle very much.

        Her father, however, did himself no favours.

  16. The reason John Fashanu has never met a gay footballer (other than his own brother of course) is because the world knows that John Fashanu contributed to the despair that led to his brother’s suicide.

    John Fashanu’s legacy will not be footnall.

    His legacy will be the fact that he contributed to the death of Britain’s first openly gay footballer.

    John Fashanu is a sad, pathetic loser, has-been and bigot.

  17. What an out-and-out w@nk*r!

    John Fashanu is clearly in extreme denial about something, and I am beginning to wonder if in fact it is HIMSELF he is in denial of in this latest absurd assault on his late brother’s memory?

    After all, those who have difficulty accepting others’ sexuality are nearly always found to be unable to accept it in themselves.

    Clearly in need of therapy to sort out his deep-rooted issues, and fast!

    1. Talk about peeing on your brother’s grave. Why can’t he bring himself to say something nice for a change?

      Bitter? Sheesh!!

      1. Yeah he certainly knows how to create bad publicity!

        He certainly knows how to demean his brother with what sounded to be cold, calculated and deliberate words.

        It seems John Fashanu has a chip on his shoulder the size of the Irish potato harvest!

  18. “It’s unfortunate because I don’t believe he was, and if he was, who gives a rat’s arse? So what?” So what? It was obviously important to this bigotted, homophobic git. Some brother, this!

  19. This guy helped dig his brother’s grave and kicked him in it.

    1. Agreed.

      John Fashanu truly is the scum of the earth.

  20. Errol Semple 19 Mar 2012, 1:07pm

    His brother probably thinks that Justin’s suicide as “to get publicity” too. He can rationalize it how he wants after “pushing him (his brother) further away”. His stereotypes prove his lack of understanding.

  21. Ben Amponsah 19 Mar 2012, 1:21pm

    A very sad state of affairs. Havibg watched the documentary I was outraged at how John Fashanu tried to stifle his daughters understandable grieving and remember thinking with my counselling psychologist’s hat on, this guy has some seriously unresolved issues of his own to deal with.

    This latest utterance only serves to confirm that.

    Quite what his daughter must be thinking is anyones guess…

    1. If anything, I hope that she now sees John Fashanu for the bigot he really is. He told her so many lies in the documentary, hopefully now she will see the light as it were!

  22. John Fashanu is a giant a..h…
    Even after 20 years he can’t get his head around the fact that his much more talented brother was indeed gay and a very successful professional footballer.
    He should make his family and everyone else a favour and stop talking out of his ass.

  23. John … your brother was GAY – Deal with it! Get over it!

    To try to deny this is insulting to his memory and it demeans you!!!!

  24. Rachel Haytread 19 Mar 2012, 3:07pm

    In the early 1980s my partner and I were regulars at a club in Nottingham called ‘Part Two’ where we met Justin and his companion. On Saturday nights when the bar closed we would go to the Cafe part of the club and talk and drink coffee and have a laugh. Not being sport fans his fame as a footballer was irrelevant to us as was his sexual orientation. He was just one of numerous celebs, actors, comedians and musicians who would come to Part Two to have a good time without being bothered by straight pissheads.

    He was a lovely man – simple as that.

    John Fashanu’s statements after the death of Justin were sickening. His conduct during his daughters’ heart-breaking documentary was just as appalling. Justin was a good man. Courageous beyond belief during those hateful times and as fine an example of humanity as one would wish to meet. History will judge of which of these brothers will be an inspiration to future generations. Justin’s niece should be as proud of him as the rest of us.

    1. Rachel

      Great words. Some of the nicest ones I have seen you write.

  25. ‘football..is a macho man’s game’ – what a joke! The man is clearly in denial…I feel sorry for his daughter. What a disappointment her hetrosexual father must be to her.

  26. Staircase2 19 Mar 2012, 3:47pm

    I’m really saddened that John Fashanu has come out with this utter (and irrelevant) rubbish.

    I was moved to write something about him after watching his daughter, Amal’s excellent documentary about her uncle, Justin Fashanu but decided against it as it was clear that John was suffering enough just from knowing what part his rejection of Justin played in his own brothers suicide.

    In truth the worst that can be said about John’s behaviour (at the time) is that he was young, badly advised & lacked the balls to see & then stand up for the truth & stand BY his brother

    I suspect that his steely, glazed look when talking on the subject in Amal’s Documentary is more a reflection of his growing business interests in homophobic Nigeria than it is about his true feelings about his betrayal of his brother some 20 years ago…

    The tears that streamed down John’s face speak more to his true (and clearly still deeply repressed) feelings about his beloved gay older brother Justin.

  27. Staircase2 19 Mar 2012, 3:50pm

    The sad part of his recent comments is not just how he is still so dumb (numb?) as to completely deny Justin’s sexuality but that he is happily trashing the hard work that his own daughter, Amal, has done to raise the profile of homophobia within Football.

    Nigerian Business interests or not, old-school misogynistic locker-room mentality or not, its time that John grew up and educated himself as to what homophobia actually means.

    When he’s done that he may have more chance of coming to peace concerning his brother’s untimely and unnecessary death.

    RIP Justice Fashanu….

  28. Christians are using propaganda to try and make it look like people who are gay are not gay for their own reasons. Christians are using propaganda and black propaganda to stop any body they think is their enemy. Their Bible says to fight until everybody is a Christian and stone (kill) those who are not. The Catholics recruited Tony Blair to be their their public relations boys after he was no longer the Prime Minister. What did he know from being Prime Minister of England that he would become a Catholic AFTER he was no longer PM? The Catholic Cult has more power and money than any other religion on earth. They are the Christian Mafia. In case you do not know they can say and do things and get away with it and Tony and the Catholic Ministry of Propaganda twist the news of hides the news or does what ever they think will influence the masses the way they want them to think. That is propaganda,. Germany developed this kind of propaganda in the war.

    1. Wow. Someone likes their conspiracy theories don’t they?

    2. Don Harrisoin 19 Mar 2012, 5:02pm

      I am a happy gay anglican christian

  29. Justin was a personal friend and stayed with me in London . I’m not going to get dragged into this in any detail, but he was certainly gay. He was also troubled, as much I think by the end of his career and lack of success as a football manager, as by his sexuality. In the last year he dropped off the map and stopped contacting friends. This was all about so much more than ‘being gay’, but to suggest that he wasn’t is ridiculous.

    1. Staircase2 23 Mar 2012, 3:59pm

      Bless you! Well said!

  30. Don Harrisoin 19 Mar 2012, 5:00pm

    I would have hated being the brother of John Fashanu

  31. Liam Ledwidge 19 Mar 2012, 5:10pm

    As the former owner of the INCOGNITO SAUNA CLUB in Dublin I can only say that I met Justin Fashanu in our club. He most certainly wasn’t straight and he was fascinated at the world wide attention given to the Roman Catholic Priest Liam Cosgrave found dead in the club a few years previously. Justin was a lovely man and spent several hours in our establishment and was very obliging to everyone. I found him to be one of the nicest man I have ever met.

  32. What a truly sad nasty individual John Fashanu is, to be still denying his brother is just appalling to my mind.
    Attention seeking of the worst kind…..ooops sorry he is not doing that…..is he??

  33. Fashanu is clearly still in denial about his brother’s sexuality and still can’t accept the truth. It’s also insulting that he claims there are no gay football players because it is a “macho man’s game”. He obviously believes that gay men are all stereotypical pansies that all hate football, when that’s simply not true. Sexuality does not decide what hobbies and interests you like any more than it decides what your personality is like or what you like to wear. He might not want to admit he’s being homophobic, but he damn well is.

  34. Ignorant beyond belief, what a vile piece of s**t

  35. Justin was indeed Gay and he should be left in the past. John is just feeling guilty because he treated Justin poorly. I know Justin was gay because I was one of the boys he abused. I was included in the news articles at the time of Justin’s death. I shall not use my own name since I have my right to anonymity.

    1. Ed I know what you mean about Justin’s troubles. You would also know what happened in the run up to his death. Unfortunately I was involved in his habits albeit not willingly. This story should be left alone for the sake of his families and all the people involved in the court cases.

      1. Not another attention seeker, why dont you just PI55 OFF

    2. yet another tosspot whose father should of shot him into the air when he had the chance!

  36. Justin stayed at the (gay) Beacon Royal Hotel in Brighton with a gay male guest. Their room had a double bed in it, so for his denialist brother to suggest that Justin wasn’t gay is just plain ridiculous.

  37. John Fashanu is an embarrassment. His comments are not only ridiculous, they are those of someone who is clearly deluded in this matter. I personally spoke with Justin and he was happily and confidently gay about a year before his death and playing for a Scottish team. His brother is simply a bigot.

    1. I’ve decide to never celebrated another Christian event. They are evil

    2. Staircase2 23 Mar 2012, 4:15pm

      …How is this relevant exactly?

  38. What do you expect from John Fashanu except a pathetic atempt of self justification. He was no good when his brother was alive and he is no good now. Was Justin gay. YES he was. We were there.

  39. Spanner1960 19 Mar 2012, 10:25pm

    I’m sure there are partners / lovers/ shags of Justin that must be aware of these comments.

    It would only take one or two of them to be brave enough to admit having intimate relations with him to shut this vile bigoted brother of his up for good. If you have any respect for Justin standing up and facing the world, do the same for his memory.

  40. Paddyswurds 19 Mar 2012, 11:03pm

    @Anon…above
    ….You are a despicable liar trying to besmirch the name of a dead man. Dead firstly because his brother berated him for being gay and shunned him from his family and secondly because a 17 year old creep in Maryland, where the age of consent is 16, claimed sexual assault after consensual sex,a claim which which was thrown out by the police at the time. Your claims are just a spurious and it is just as well perhaps that you stay anonymous. Are you p***d off your false claims failed to get you a wad of money. Go rot in the hell of your own making. You don’t deserve to be a member of the Human Race.

    1. Also unless you knew Justin then you are not qualified to make such a vindication. I reported his assault to the police when this happened and I
      did not make any monies. Its a sad state of affairs. I experience the other Justin and those who knew him know what I mean.

      1. Paddyswurds 20 Mar 2012, 11:25pm

        I suspect this is keith again. The spelling and grammar is identical.

  41. I hope his daughter sees sense and disowns him. She was nice he is weak

  42. John Fashanu – beyond contempt.

    Put his own public image and popularity above the life and welfare of his own brother who he left to perish, alone. Simple as that. He is still in denial about his own culpability in his brother’s tragic death. His daughter meanwhile, has a heart and conscience which clearly upsets Fashanu since he refuses to atone for his behaviour and wishes his daughter would forget all about so that he can too. Quite simply, he is not a real man for he has no conscience, no courage and no compassion. A ‘macho man’s game’ my arse. It is a haven for mindless mob rule.

  43. Obum Nameo 26 Mar 2012, 3:23am

    Finally, John Fashanu has woken up to the bitter truth. Justin was an indisciplined man who couldn’t manage his finances. Justin was a man who was willing to say yes to everything as long as the price was right. He claimed he was in 1990 without stating who he was in relationship with. Suddenly, when a conservative MP died in scandalous circumstances, there was Justin again claiming he had slept with the man. Soon after, it was another fantasy of his – that he was sleeping with a Coronation Street actress. I am sure if Justin was asked whether he slept with an elephant, he would have said yes, as long as his palm was greased.

    How could a sane black man have gone to the Sun Newspapers, which was scorned by many blacks in those days, and make such revelation. I believe, like many do, that Justin went the Newspapers for 2 reason: 1) Money 2) To spite his younger brother.

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