I see that the mendacious christofascism from the States is busy spreading its filthy fingers in to the UK. Nothing is being redefined, nothing is being taken away from anyone, nothing will actually change for most people. What I don’t understand is why opinion – particularly the uninformed opinions by people who have no skin in the game, have any meaning over the law of the land as it applies to ALL of us.
All this homophobia from a country whose men traditionally wear skirts…….
….The victory will be all the sweeter when it happens, and these dinosaurs will be exposed on the cliff edge of history for what they really are…Haters and bigots. It will be such delightful revenge to see them fall to oblivion and they have no one to blame but themselves.
The words “Rope”, “Hang” and “Allow” spring to mind.
How does allowing same sex couples to marry “redefine” a marriage between a man and a woman?
This whole debate is now beginning to turn into vehement homophobic attacks on all gay people by organised religion.
The Church of England needs to be decisive and bold and admit it has been WRONG to oppose gay people in the past-and to DEFEND them from institutionalised and homophobic attacks by the Catholic Church. Will they have the courage to do this?
Our experience in Scotland was that the Church of Scotland ran to the side of the catholic church to offer its support in opposing equal marriage.
However, a sizeable number of religious organizations are in favour here which will hopefully be replicated in England and Wales.
“Why do you think gay people should not be burned at the stake for crimes against God?”
“Legal, decent, honest and truthful” as the ASA put it. Bloody good job this wasn’t an advert.
Oh look, blame the question when you don’t like it. All poll questions are biased.
They most certainly are not, but the christian cult fundies most certainly are. Goodbye cultists and take your hate and stick it where the sun don’t shine.
Of course they are, it’s common knowledge amongst sociologists. Who says I hate? You don’t know me and you cannot make any assumptions. It’s not me and my Christian friends showing hate. I’m not telling anyone to go anywhere. You need to take a long hard look at yourself and your hate filled life
Go tell it to God..
But they are Blanche they are. Everytime we read any comment from the fundies the hate just bubbles and squeeks from every word. If you are not a christo fundie homophoble then say so and be done. I didn’t say you are, I wrote ‘Goodbye cultists and take your hate and stick it where the sun don’t shine’. I didn’t write Goodbye Degs etc It was not a comment directed at you personally.
I presume you do not work either in law or as a statistician.
If you did then you would learn of the importance to avoid leading questions and of the bias and inaccuracy that they can provide.
Many criminal cases have either been dropped or overturned and been shown to be miscarriages of justice due to inappropriate and biased leading questions being posed. In the cases where this is identified early enough the evidence is thrown out as unfair, unsafe and unsatisfactory (exactly what should happen with the results of this biased leading survey). In other cases people have been wrongly convicted due to dodgy and subvertive questioning using similar tactics to those engaged in by this unprofessional and rigged opinion poll. Its tantamount to deception.
In statistics professional statisticians seek to remove every aspect of potential bias to ensure that questions posed elicit the truth of what the populations actual opinion is, rather than manipulating people unprofessionally
Craig-Do you think Brian Souter has anything to do with this?
As if Brian Souter would pay people to lie and manipulate to deceive people into adopting homophobic and prejudiced viewpoints.
As if … ;-)
OH we can’t expect them to ask ‘fair’ questions, that might deliver accurate better informed answers…..that might lead to them having to admit that they do not command the majority…and that would NEVER DO. So the alternative is obvious, they MUST ask a biased, ill informed question and get the figures you need to continue with their bias, homophobia and hate. Simples!
This story is being reported in newspapers here in Scotland, just as it says in the Pink News article. But they are simply reporting the poll and it’s results without all the other information about the question being misleading and biased. At least PN are telling us the full story. My worry is more people will read about this in the Scottish papers and believe it.
To their credit, the Herald are reporting the biased nature of the poll. Other papers are not.
The Herald was one I hadn’t checked! Thanks for letting us know. But as you say, the other papers aren’t reporting the bias of the poll. I really hope people won’t read it and believe it.
Bring it on. Such activities weaken their position because they highlight that asking balanced questions would see them packing. They end up looking devious, mendatious, hateful and on the wrong side of history. Bring it on!
Some people in the Christian religion have trained to spread false propaganda and black propaganda like Goebbels did when he was in charge of the Ministry of Propaganda. The Christians like Goebbels and his infamous friends want to destroy any one who stands in their way and take over control of everyone, so they can do as they like. They will do everything they can to stop and control people to think their way.
Marriage is not a stricly religious ceremony. Marriage should be between two individuals who love each other, and religions should have no say in it.
Oh, and people also complained when they tried to let blacks marry, legalize interracial marriage, get rid of polygamy, have it so that woman isn’t the property of the man. They’ll get over it and being against same-sex marriage will be archaic someday.
Gay marriage will not affect heterosexual marriage in any way, so this is a blatant lie. Where is the advertising standards authority? Is there no regulation in this moral casspit country? They say nasty things about anyone who is gay, but then think telling lies is fine!! Since when was this country directed by the lowest of the low?
Is it bad that my first reaction to reading the question was to agree with the statement? Afterall, I don’t think we should have the right to “redefine” their marriages any more than they should have the right to stop us from getting married. I strongly belive in marriage equality, yet I don’t know how I would have answered that pole, to say this is misleading is an understatment.
Have they not a scrap of integrity? What a showing up for them.
People, is it reasonable to expect ethical and honorable words and actions from a group whose very purpose itself is much less than honorable or ethical, and in fact whose purpose is hatred and bigotry? When marriage equality is the law in many lands, regardless of what these haters and bigots say and do, they will disappear like the dinosaurs they truly are and their ‘agenda’ will be fatally exposed once and for all, for any rational person to see and reject as unsuited for our new world. And, yes, it will bring me pleasure to watch them disappear into the darkness forever, from whence they came….oh, yes, it certainly will……
Hmm…Same-sex marriage has been legal in Ontario since June 10, 2003 and across Canada since 2005. The sky has not fallen and opposite sex marriage is as it always has been. The only thing that changed is that now we are all treated equally under the law.
PLEASE VOTE HERE TOO:
Within the midst of an offensive report in the Telegraph there is a poll being run on marriage (please vote and demonstrate the strength of feeling!).
Within the article, the RC church are at it again and saying gay relationships are merely friendships. Devalue, dehumanise, substandard treatment – the usual rhetoric of the Archbishops.
PLEASE VOTE IN THEIR POLL FOR EQUAL MARRIAGE!
We should know this was going to happen when their small 100 people protest against same sex marraige got on the main reporting scotland news adn our 1000 strong protest for same sex marraige did not even get a mention on mainstream news, only on the Edinburgh news and radio.. disgusting.. as someone who came from Dumfries with my 2 sons I am appalled, the press is biased too.. we will have to shout a wee bit louder.. I will quite happily chain myself to a fence or 2 if need be…