Somehow ‘shooting club’ and ‘Christian traditions’ seem to go too well together…
What a bunch of idiots.
…Pity the Germans weren’t so concerned about their Christian Values when they were murdering Millions in the early forties…..
Yes I agree. Adolf Hitler was a Catholic and he and the Catholic Church have a lot of people on the same hate list. Communists, Socialists, Gays, and for a very long time they both hated Jews too. Christian tradition? I rather think the main body of Christian tradition consists of murder, torture, oppression, not to dwell on child rape and abuse and degrees of cruelty that are almost beyond believing. This shower want to take the high moral ground? Really?
Please note that Germany has moved on since the Nazi era and today the country is a popular gay destination featuring a Museum of Homosexuality in Berlin. Laws in Germany ban Holocaust denial and display of Nazi symbols and the country is one of Israel’s strongest allies. Don’t tar all Germans with the same brush just because of some mad-man and his brainwashed henchmen. Britain committed nasty crimes during it’s Empire years and laws against homosexuality which are still upheld in many African countries are a legacy of our colonial past.
where’s my comment PN??
Guns and bigots, a dangerous combination.
It does seem a bit daft on all counts… for a start would it really be that bad to have two kings recieve the award?
For another thing some gay guys are quite happy with the label “queen”, so maybe it’s worth asking the recipient how they want to be addressed before the crowning ceremony.
Some straight people just tie themselves in needless knots trying to figure out how to address us, if it were me being crowned I’d sooner they asked.
Doesn’t Germany have any equality legislation to cover this? Wouldn’t this sort of discrimination be illegal in the UK?
Should the same-sex partner of a champion gun-man also be crowned ‘king’? In the UK it will be interesting to see how honoury titles will be handled should gays get marriage equality. Take Sir Elton John for example. In a traditional marriage a wife would receive the title ‘Lady’. In Sir Elton’s case his Civil Partner is simply David Furnish – would Mr. Furnish receive a title should they become able to upgrade to a full marriage?
….Germans with guns …. is that allowed???
Well a man shouldn’t be called a queen, so that’s not an issue, but to stop recognize other couples is absurd.
recognising (English website)
Sorry, DC78, quite right!
I’m from the US, get over yourself dude
Learn to spell in the US then. Your Dictionary is full of stupid errors. Who said you could rewrite the Oxford Dictionary……??
The spelling isn’t the issue. It’s that you forgot to add “ing”. Edward, Venice, California
Do stop making a fool of yourself, Paddyswurds – can you seriously be unaware that the OED’s policy is and always has been to use the -ize spelling?
Do you write in ‘American English’ when you leave messages on an American website? I don’t.
Actually, this is a purist or traditionalist myth. The use of “z” was not at all uncommon in the UK. See, for example, the judgement in the landmark English judicial review case, Associated Provincial Picture Houses Ltd v. Wednesbury Corporation  2 All ER 680. You’ll find ‘recognize’, ‘legalize’, ‘summarize’, etc. (Lord Greene, Master of the Rolls, was an English Baron and Oxford graduate). It is only much more recent revision by language pedants who fancy themselves as very clever that has made the “z” unacceptable in UK English.
As the OED does to this day, I believe on the principle that the -ize spelling harks back to transliteration from the Greek, rather than Latin, which takes precedence in terms of antiquity.
(Sorry, way off-topic!)
Oh what fun!
The Christian Traditions of German shooting ‘fraternities’ – says it all really!
Jesus never had a gun.
A point worth making to the German ‘shooting fraternities’, I think.
Dottiness is part of the territory here. Not sure I have that much sympathy for the king and his ‘queen’.
…the bloody idiots!
Surely guns, along with dolls, should remain in the nursery as we grow up. As should adolescent homophobia.
Should they tick off the person that wins a MARKSMANSHIP trophy? Am I the only one that sees a problem here? I wouldn’t tick someone off that wins a shooting trophy out of 400,000 plus shooters.
@Keith – thanks for your comment – made me smile :o)
On March 13th, 16 years ago I was horrified when I switched on the television to discover that a pedeophile had entered Dunblane Primary School and murdered, in cold blood, 16 children all aged 5 or 6 along with their teacher before turning one of his legally-held weapons upon himself, placing himself beyond the reach of justice. The result of the massacre was the outlawing of virtually all handguns in the UK. Sadly, the ban does not appy to those who wish to live outside the law and it is probably easier for me to pick up a gun in Manchester’s Mosside than it is for me to pick up a guy on Canal Street! Attitudes towards guns vary among the gay community as much as it does with everyone else. You may have heard about the Pink Pistols in America, a gay gun group but at the end of the day the world will be a better place without guns.
Because shooting groups needed >this< to make them ridiculous. Profoundly creepy.