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New Dean of St Paul’s says Church should welcome gay marriage

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  1. Nutjobsareeverywhere 8 Mar 2012, 12:04pm

    At last a light in the darkness the dean should be archbish

  2. Peter & Michael 8 Mar 2012, 12:18pm

    Hear ! Hear ! Perhaps the church realise that they are against the tide of public opinion. We like the idea of Same-Sex Marriage being enacted during the Diamond Jubilee of our Queen.

  3. Maybe this man can teach teh Archbishop of Canterbury and York something about tolerance and understanding!

    Interesting too how he comments that marriage does not belong to the church!

    Now let’s wait for the in-fighting to start.

  4. I hope that his resume is up to date, as I doubt that all-embracing and progressive values that go against the party line will serve him all that well. Cue for christians to squabble over who their invisible friend likes the most.

  5. So good to have an older-generation Anglican make such a public statement in favour of equal marriage – and, incidentally, the promotion of marriage as an institution really does sound better coming from someone who is himself married, unlike his Catholic equivalents he practises what he preaches!

  6. All very well.

    However the leadership of the cult of Englahd – the Archbishops of York and Canterbury remain as horrifically bigotted as ever.

    Why doesn’t he quit that poisonous cult in favour of a more humane cult if he believes in marriage equality?

    1. Perhaps because there is unlikely to ever be any change if it doesn’t come from within. We need people like him to stay within the C of E and keep up the good work!

      1. Because one of the hallmarks of Anglicanism is about sticking it out with many contrasting viewpoints for the greater good – something which in recent decades many Anglicans have forgotten about.

    2. I know what you mean. But there must have been an awful lot of competition for his job.

  7. Whats this???? A voice of reason, compassion, courage and caring from a man of the church…surely not. Whatever next?? Well done Sir.

  8. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Mar 2012, 1:10pm

    Excellent news! I’ve no doubt more will step forward once the consultation is under way. He hit the nail on the head. The Church does NOT own marriage, especially CIVIL marriage.

  9. Horray for the Very Rev’d David Ison….For he’s a jolly good fellow!!!

  10. I’m guessing he’s going to be struck off Arch-bigot Carey’s Christmas card list.

    1. Dr Robin Guthrie 8 Mar 2012, 1:46pm

      Pretty soon we may be reading about “EX” dean of St.Pauls.

      1. Fortunately the C of E does not work like that – one of the positive points from an ecclesiastical perspective of Establishment.

  11. So nice to hear this! Good on him for commenting on it, imagine what some of his colleagues will be saying about it.

    1. Robert in S. Kensington 8 Mar 2012, 2:54pm

      All it takes is one person to lead the way. We already have one Anglican bishop on board, it can only get better and continue to grow.

  12. He is quite right- and some of the horrible comments from the likes of cardinals will put gay people off any thoughts of being Christians

  13. How refreshing – of course he just blew his chances of a friendship with Mugabe.

    1. lol – that’s funny :)

  14. It’s heart warming to hear that there are members of the church who understand the concept of compassion and who can grasp that allowing same sex marriage can do nothing to harm straight marriage and only helps shore up the institution of marriage as a whole.

  15. For the first time some light in the darkness of this depressing saga. Finally we have a Christian in an important post. Let’s hope he gives courage to others.

  16. Compassion, courage and integrity and what is often overlooked, just good common sense for anyone with a geuine desire for greater stability in society.

  17. Craig Denney 8 Mar 2012, 4:36pm

    ooop’s
    I rigorously and strenuously warned the Occupy movement outside St Paul’s Cathedral that they would loose support from the gay community if they did not take into the talks with the church staff questions about homophobia in the Church of England.

    It now looks like they did.

  18. “(The church ) “believes on the basis of Bible and tradition that marriage is between a man and a woman and does not accept that this needs to change”.

    It doesn’t need to change and will still continue, but marriage does not need to be exclusively between a man and a woman, civil marriage equality same sex couples will also be eligible to marry. How is that a threat? it is not.

    1. except there is nothing in the Bible that says a marriage is “between A man and A woman”. as a matter of fact, it is rather disingenuous to try and justify monogamy using the Bible as a reference. The Bible is replete with glorified examples of rape, incest, polygamy, and infidelity. Great kings and heroes of the Old Testament who had multiple wives, who raped the women of defeated foes, who stole the wives of defeated enemies. Technically, Adam and Eve were more than brother and sister (were one to be silly enough to accept that part of the Bible as “fact”): they were clones one of the other. How much closer to incest could that get?

  19. George Broadhead 8 Mar 2012, 9:58pm

    Will the Dean try and prevail on his boss to change his mind?

  20. Bless him. I don’t think he will last long in his post with those ideas. Good for him, though. It is unbelievable that people like him, tolerant and open, could exist in the church (of England or Roman Catholic, Inc.)

  21. suggestion 11 Mar 2012, 6:38pm

    Could we not refer to the “marriage” of gays as “sparriage”? They would become spouses, not husbands and wives. I think this could ease a lot of tensions.

    They would become spouses, not husbands and wives. I think this would ease a lot of tensions

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