Never heard of him.
Is that relevant? I’ve never heard of you.
She must be American. it’s not her fault.
Ignorance is never an excuse. Love u2.
The teen ‘apologised’ and deleted his tweet after receiving loads of abuse, you can tell whoever it was is a low life scumbag.
‘I never actually sent this to you.’ is an excuse not an apology and if you tag someone you ARE sending it to them, it’s the equivalent of e-mailing someone and then saying you didn’t mean for them to see it.
I feel sorry for Matt Lucas, dealing with suicide is very difficult.
I reacted the same way at first – but as any Twitter user knows, when you’re talking about people, its usual to include their @name. This then means that the person in question gets a copy in their ‘inbox’ as if its addressed TO them.
If he had posted exactly the same idiotic message and just put ‘Matt Lucas’ instead of @Matt(etc) then this wouldn’t have happened.
The problem is in not fully understanding what he’s doing and yet feeling like he is in control of it all. (A popular problem with egowank gone mad on Twitter in particular)
He should learn to take as well as give, I seem to recall Little Britain making fun of Thai people, incontinent old women and the disabled. Tough Matt but that’s life!
Woah there – Matt Lucas never personally targetted anyone in his comedy. The characters were always hugely overplayed caricatures. No matter what he did on stage or telly, he didn’t deserve this kind of nastiness.
Many trans people have been targeted by yobs as a result of his lady characterization – and were talking ridiculed while getting groceries, or trying to have a quiet night out – not a nasty thing said on Twitter. He can give, but he can’t take it. He’s a spoiled brat.
Aren’t there are different levels? Most of his characters are based off the truth.
Surely the topic of death is much harsher than ‘I want that one’
Even if you think what he does is wrong on some level surely two wrongs don’t make a right.
Yes there are diferrent levels – but its hard to justify someone whinging when they’ve done something similar themselves and are totally unrepentant. Incidentally I would neveer dream of doing something like either of these have done – I’m a much better person than that I have to say, and the minute I discover anything I have done has hurt someone I do my best not only to apologise, but to put it right.
There’s a difference between parading around as an offensive characature on telly and laughing at somebody who killed himself, though. If Lucas were to take what he dishes out, that would just mean that someone would go on TV being a stereotype of a Jew or a gay man. Which, loads of people, including Matt Lucas, have done. He’s never once tried to cause offence to somebody who had someone they love kill themselves.
no matter what one says about this type of joke, the death of someone who you are/were close to, is hard to take, because now you have to accept that things are over, there is no hope of ever getting back together. Sometomes comedians make jokes about people or race and sometimes the are stupid because they hurt people, but if there were no jokes, we might not realise just how stupid some things are.
Internet tough guys and ignorant trolls should not be given this much power. I have had close connections to two serious suicide attempts, including one that I personally intervened in (my best friend of a number of years, she never forgave me – I’m living with it, and so is she). I am well aware of the sensitivity and I know that it is no laughing matter and jokes are in poor taste. BUT to be chased away by one socially retarded little cretin makes no sense at all. Calling him out, sending him viral, so that everyone can see that he is a vile little scrote is one thing. But slinking away, tail between legs, from something that you like (or, for many showbiz folks now, is a useful tool) is not wise. Never back down from leery little t00ls on line who wouldn’t say boo to a goose in real life.
Bless you – but this is missing the point.
The fact is that NONE of the internet trolls would say boo to their own mother let alone a goose!
Its that very social isolation that their experience in the real world which gives them the impetus to create these larger than life negative persona’s online. Once they start generating a certain level of negative attention they start revelling in it and feel empowered.
The answer is not to describe a 16yr old as ‘a vile little scrote’ – its to find ways to deal with these people firmly, swiftly and fairly.
Saying ‘never back down’ is complete bollocks too – and only inflames already difficult situations.
People have to honour their feelings and do what is best for them – its all very well for you to sit there and suggest martyrdom but you don’t have 500,000 people constantly vying for your attention on a daily basis. That very fact alone is enough to drive anyone insane.
Don’t back down – as in don’t let them force you to leave. I wouldn’t suggest getting in to a battle over the internet – there’s no point or sense in doing that. And yes, I will call the kid a vile little scrote – there is no way to “deal” with it other than sitting in your airing cupboard for the rest of your bloody life. People are always going to be mean, you can cower or you can shrug it off. But one of the first rules of the internet (after JohnGabriel’s Greater Internet Theory) is – Don’t feed the trolls. And no, twitter has no more power than you allow it to have. Actors, musicians etc can learn to use it as a tool – you can buzz build with it and self-promote with it – but any notion of intimacy through it is a complete illusion, on behalf of both fans and the names themselves.
Frankly most of the contributors to this banality are scum-bags and anyone with any semblance of decency who got caught up in the hype at the beginning has quickly jumped ship again. Twitter has got to be the most pointless and brainless entity ever thought up and is rapidly waning as more and more people see the light.
bands keep their fans updated, indie news sites have just as much power as BBC or FOX, people replace a word in the name of a song to something star wars related, everybody can read the words of mrs stephen fry, pink news tell me when i can read a new story, anybody can talk to anybody.
there are far more pros than cons. if somebody uses it to insult somebody thousands of miles away we should blame the idiot, not the platform. if not for being a **** then for wasting an oppertunity.
No – actually Twitter is not ‘brainless’ at all.
Its very very clever.
I’m deducing from your comment that you a) don’t use it b) don’t know how to or c) used it a bit but couldn’t get the hang of it…lol
…or d) used it a bit but couldn’t actually find anything interesting enough to say to sustain your own or other people’s interest…
………”or d) used it a bit but couldn’t actually find anything interesting enough to say to sustain your own or other people’s interest…” Really You think I couldn’t find anything to say? You just confirmed that you are one of the illiterates on this site who don’t read the comments but just posts gibberish similar to the gibberish that passes for something to say on Twitter. 80% of the feed on Twitter is brainless gibberish and the other 20% is Utter banality. I watched Twitter for a period but decided I wasn’t illiterate enough to participate……
Oh, Paddy. You’re SO hipster.
If I were illiterate then I think you’d find far more spelling mistakes, typos & grammar errors no?
Or am I understanding something about the definition of the word ‘illiterate’ that doesn’t exist in Paddywoodsville? lol
I think when you were suggesting I was ‘illiterate’ what you meant to say was ‘you piss me off’ (which is not the same thing at all…)
my ex took his own life just over 1 year ago…its painful and there are no answers. Acceptable seem to be the key for some of us survivors. I guess Mr Lucas did what he thought was best so I hope he feels safer now. As for the 16yo….kids are cruel, in time he will grow a little and hopefully have learned from the experience.
i always find it strange when people use the internet for harrasment of any kind (even if the kid didn’t want lucas to read it, its ****ing twitter.) they have a wealth of information and a globe sized phone book in their pocket and instead of learning to play the mandolin they tell jokes about the dead or vulnerable.
i dont think he should have left twitter. these idiots shouldn’t be allowed to even think they have any inflouence over people. theres only one word for these people and its a very offensive one. sadly they are everywhere and while twitter is a great platform for telling people what you had for dinner right through to regime changes its also a great platform for idiots.
I can’t say I blame him, I left fb for similar reasons.
It does seem rather short sighted for someone with such celebrity to leave though, rather than leading by example and showing what should be done which is reporting the nasty little little boy to Twitter and blocking him?
Twitter doesnt have any real reporting facility to report things like that.
If you consider what happened to you on Facebook then magnify that by around 500,000 you get some idea of the immense pressure that social media can bring onto a ‘celebrity’.
twitter is for idiots and trolls anyway, good for you Matt
This is of course, complete bollocks…
Twitter is just the medium for communication, if you wrote the exact same sentence on twitter as another site would it invalidate it?
Its high time that Twitter had a ‘report’ button – there have been a high number of abusive, racist & homophobic tweets from clearly disturbed individuals who get away with it.
Its almost impossible to get Twitter to address it fully; instead Twitter suggests that people contact their local Police which seems like a corporate cop-out to me.
The net has a tendency to bring out the nasty teenager in many people – you only have to look at these message boards for an example of that…
Many online communities are literally flooded with negativity and ill-behaviour.
That relentless outpouring of negativity wears everyone down eventually.
The sad thing is that those perpetrators are then drunk on their perception of their own ‘power’ and go on to do more and more of the same.
Hopefully Matt, like many others before him, will come back to it after having a break and refreshing his batteries.
He’s a funny man and the internet will be a colder place without him.
@chris lowercase You’re missing the point if you think that Twitter is about telling people what they had for dinner…
I’m a little shocked at how many comments on here don’t even understand what Twitter is or its current social influence.
An enormous amount of ‘stories’ in the newspapers are in fact taken directly from Tweets. Twitter is enormously influential politically – it helped formulate the Arab Spring for example.
Its the main political opposition at the moment to the NHS reforms being forced thru by the Government.
It is a combination of local, national & international newspaper, TV news, fanzine, political campaign platform, social & business networking, philosophy, poetry etc etc all in the form of a mobile phone text.
The problem for many people including this 16yr old is in not understanding how ‘personal thought’ is now global…
Is this Carries alter ego…..
What a load of utter twaddle….
Carrie’s alter ego – remember the apostrophe, meaning possession; and an ellipsis, similarly, is three dots – not four or five… seems like you are illiterate enough for twatter after all!
thanks for not correcting my posts ;)
…. the dots after and included in my comments have nothing to do with grammar but are in fact code. You will notice three dots and four dot and sometimes five….. my intentional doing and nothing to do with English grammar. The missing apostrophe was a typo. I am Irish Btw and English is not my first language as you probably know.
the sentance i used was ‘everything from telling people what they had for dinner to regime change’. doesnt that suggest im talking about everything between? if you want a rant please read my whole post, it seems you didnt even finish reading the sentance. in another post (which was a reply to a post you also replied to) i even mentioned some of the points you raised. its crazy how you can even get into arguments with people you agree with on the internet.
Just because you agree with someone’s main point doesnt mean they have to agree with everything you say…
I started off by simply saying that its (simply) not true to say that Twitter is just about what you had for dinner…and then went on to talk about other people’s lack of grasp on the subject as well…
Re-read what I said…
i have, several times. really, we agree on most things. i say most things on the chance that you are using irony on a massive scale and we in fact agree on nothing. you have been very prolific on the topic, maybe you confused my name with somebody else. its easily done.
no really, i read both my posts back… you pretty much echoed what i said in both of them. i agree 100% with what i said.
What was that joke anyway?
We just don’t want to know what it was and what we do know is that it wasn’t a joke as far as anyone with any decency is concerned.
I feel sorry for him. Loss is a hard thing to deal with. I hope he has people close to him that can be supportive. The emptiness never really leaves you.
Sadly though its the internet and this will happen. Its free speech. These tastless jokes have been said as long as people can remember about something or another. Weve all ha friends tell us a joke and were like oh thats bad but also find it funny. Says a lot about humans really.
The only difference is these days is the wider social media means tese tastless cruel at times remarks that some see as humour are spread faster and to a wider audience. Usually to the victim too, one of the many pit falls of eing a celebrity with a private life known to all. Its a shame in this day and age things cant be different.
I’d like to be sympathetic, but he didn’t care when he made life miserable for many trans. people. His discomfort while bad for him, does not make it difficult for him to get ou tof the house or buy some groceries. He dish this ***** out, but he can’t take it himself!!!!
Contrary to popular belief Matt Lucas didn’t make the nation transphobic.
Who said he did? he did do something that would allow transphobes to attack, and is unrepentant about that.
….Matt Lucas didn’t make people sick of Trans. They done an admirable job of it all by themselves by being whinging homophobics who dont know what they want and this latest sick of trans “men” having babies just about put the cap on the whole sorry mess.
Well actually Paddy I think you’ll find theat I’m pretty well liked and haven’t had a problem in years now, unlike you I suspect. mI avoid all the Jermy Kyle stuff because I don’t much like it, and I think I’ll go back now to studying C16th music and opera!!! But i’m not going to say nothing about someone who is basically very selfish and doesn’t give a XxXXXX about anybody else. And there is a saying that what goes around coemes around by the way….beware!!!!
…I wasn’t being specific Watty, but being rather general in my comment about Trans. As a group they compare to my comment rather accurately and this sick trend of trans “men” giving birth has just about put the cap on the whole sorry mess as I said earlier.
So you were generalising, which as we all know is probably the stupidest thing you can do. Don’t bring your transphobic bollocks here to a lgbT website.
…YAWN…. whinging again I see. Go whinge somewhere else….
….if the cap fits wear it Watty dear…..
If transpeople had any clue to what makes their life such a misery then it would be a lesson for all of them. If not, I could give them a few clues, and it would NOT list Matt Lucas anywhere on it! He’s simply carrying on the british tradition of pantomime dames, and that is not in any way, meant to harm transgendered people. PS, I am fed up hearing about transgender issues on this website and wish that the ‘T’ was removed from LGBT, as they aren’t the same thing – as the trangendered bemoan themselves, they aren’t gay! So I’d like to be sympathetic but…
I see all trans peopel are exactly the same. Isn’t that the definition of prejudice? and not the beleif of the more dimwitted that it’s about being nasty to certain groups? As I just said there is a saying – what goes around comes around – be careful how nasty you are and how badly you behave. Incidentally I’ve always said I’m bi, but I suppose Pink news insn’t for Bi people? Nice attitude. I’m begining to think I should just stop pushing and supporting Gay marriage and just do what is good for me – humour the bigots and take what I can. That would be about your level.
….GLB stands fo Gay lesbian and bisexual…..so if you are Bi then you are included
Isnt it GLBT?
I’m not sure how the two events are related
Surely we’re intelligent enough to judge each case separately no?
Or are you suggesting that because youve decided he’s transphobic then someone else has the right to attack him?
Bless ya – not sure how solid that ground is you’re wobbling on….
The Christians think gays killing themselves are funny and encourage it but when it comes to jokes about that guy the Romans nailed to some X they don’t think that is funny at all, not to mention when they lose their heads over thing like that.
Some of us are sophisticated and unselfish enough to just not like witch hunts. Christian or no Christian.
why bring christianity into this? i dont like this hypothetical eye for an eye logic.
and although ‘they’ believe in a higher power that i dont, i think they have their own mind when it comes to telling jokes about dead gay men, or their sense of humour when it comes to their own faith.
Twitter is tatty and truly pointless. I have a lesser opinion of anyone – celebrity or otherwise – who uses Twitter.
I’m a big twitter user and it’s a great place for people to share thoughts etc…Such idiots are few and far between. Twitter is neither tatty nor pointless.
Then you know nothing of Twitter, Petro…
Matt Lucas made a career & money from jokes about people, disabled people, etc. Proven himself as a big diva: if you can’t take it, don’t dish it out!
…Matt Lucas has never targeted any specific person as this dic*head did when he targeted Lucas’ dead ex…despicable!
The joke was clearly tasteless and insensitive and Matt Lucas responded appropriately by leaving Twitter.
There is no more controversy.
Twitter is a social media platform that allows us to interact with the wider world. And for a celebrity like Matt Lucas it is a means of connecting directly with fans.
The trouble is that Matt Lucas has 100,000 followers on Twitter. He doesn’t know any of them. They don’t know him. The fake ‘friendships’ Twatter creates are confusing.
The joke made about his dead partner was tasteless, but it begs the question ‘What did he expect? If you ‘befriend’ 100,000 strangers to promote your career, then don’t act surprised when some of those 100,000 ‘friends’ will behave like a d!ckhe@d.
That is appalling. What a shame this drove Matt from Twitter. This low life doesn’t deserve Matt’s time of day and his apology was frankly shameful.
You should come back Matt and ignore such fools. It looks like your fans showed this stupid child exactly what they thought of him.
Equally I’m not sure that (I read) 500,000 (mostly) adult fans bombarding a 16 year old child (even when he is an utter dickhead) is something to be celebrating…
…bullying is bullying regardless of who’s doing it to who…
Turning a pack of fans on to verbally savage a child (who probably isnt the full ticket) is NOT a good idea or to be celebrated (pun intended…)
Well then the ‘child’s’ parents are clearly bad parents for teaching him to be a bigot and allowing him to have a Twatter account.
You can’t really expect to be on the internet and not encounter dickheads and trolls.
I will freely admit that I shared jokes in very poor taste with very close associates after my partners suicide. That was his sense of humor and it helped to lessen the pain.
I would never tell such jokes about someone else’s partners death. I hope that Matt Luca’s has lots of support. One never gets over the suicide of a loved one but with the right support, it becomes part of us and we can live again.