Five-year-old may be youngest trans person in UK

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  1. “I would love to have my son back, but I want him to be happy. If this is the route he wants to take – if this is what makes him happy – then so be it. I would rather him have my full support” – What a fantastic parent.

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  2. Staircase2  20 Feb 2012, 3:38pm  Report
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    Bless em for supporting her

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  3. “He likes playing with his sister’s old toys but he still loves Dr Who too and playing with his brother.”

    Many girls like Doctor Who too! Glad Zachy’s parents are being so supportive.

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  4. M McMillan  20 Feb 2012, 3:51pm  Report
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    Are you seriously saying a 5 year old is immoral?? I’ve seen you making lots of horrible posts on pinknews – is that what you do each day, just trawl stories making hateful comments about issues you clearly know nothing about?

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  5. Gabrielle  20 Feb 2012, 3:53pm  Report
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    You can choose your religion, but that choice is correctly considered to be something that is deeply personal, and should never be changed by force. Those individuals for whom their gender identity or orientation is a choice (and there are many for whom it is not) should be given respect and dignity in their decisions about what is best for and truly reflects them, and not be stigmatised for it developing over their lifetimes, whether those decision concern their sexuality, gender, religion, ethics, morals, or other deeply personal attributes.

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  6. I was to impressed with the misgendering, but they tried to be positive so that is slightly better.

    And I agree with Neil, as girl who adores Doctor Who, I was kind of offended by the blatant gender stereotypes that were used in this article.

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  7. Keith is an internet troll,
    Who often speaks out of his hole,
    When he’s sloshed on the booze,
    He logs on Pink News,
    You can tell by the way that he speells…

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  8. Rebecca  20 Feb 2012, 4:42pm  Report
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    I wonder why they feel it’s neccessary to diagnose a 5 year old with GID. Obviously decisions in early cases, such as this, have to be made as the child approches puberty. But that is still many years to come.. As a former transkid I would like to say this to the parents. Support and love your child in wichever direction she chooses to travel.. But know this, it has been shown statisticly again and again that the vast majority of genetic boys displaying gender variant behaviour or identities in early childhood do not grow up to become transsexuals. A clearly disproportionate amount do however become gay men, otherwise not conflicted about their gender as adults. Please do not view transsexuality as a cure for homosexuality.

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    1. Andrew  20 Feb 2012, 8:54pm  Report
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      “I wonder why they feel it’s neccessary to diagnose a 5 year old with GID.”

      I’d imagine the the attempt to mutilate his genitals was probably the point at which Avery’s parents turned to health professionals. I’m pleased they’ve found a supportive healthcare team as I know there are still very few mental health professionals recognising gender development disorders in children. They seem to be taking the right approach here.

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  9. Matthew  20 Feb 2012, 5:24pm  Report
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    What a load of rubbish.

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  10. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz FO.

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  11. It’s a bit early to be judging her needs at this time, and should just support her in a non-judgmental way. It’s good that her parents and school are supportive but it will be a different story at secondary! I think the pro-noun issue isn’t really an issue – why should we judge? We didn’t give birth to her.

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    1. Miguel Sanchez  21 Feb 2012, 3:47pm  Report
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      I hope the schools she attends later on will be just as
      supportave as the elemtary school is.

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  12. Hodge Podge  20 Feb 2012, 7:06pm  Report
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    Great parents but this will end in tears when the tabloids get hold of it…

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    1. GingerlyColors  20 Feb 2012, 7:11pm  Report
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      No doubt it will be a ‘scoop’ for the new Sun on Sunday AKA the rebranded News Of The World. New name, same old gutter press!

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  13. GingerlyColors  20 Feb 2012, 7:09pm  Report
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    My comments regarding the seven-year-old who ‘came out’ as gay gained a bit of a mixed response. Here we have an even younger child who is considered to be the ‘youngest trans-gendered person in the UK’. Please note I do not wish to sexualise children. I think that while children should enjoy their pre-teen years they should enjoy the support of their parents and not be subjected to social pressures to conform. At the age of five a child has a lot of living to do before the hormones kick in at the start of puberty. Please note that I was a child once!

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    1. Andrew  20 Feb 2012, 8:55pm  Report
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      But children do have sexualities and genders – we don’t live in a beige gender-neutral bubble until the age of ten!

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    2. Harriet  22 Feb 2012, 1:12pm  Report
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      From speaking to the trans people I know, it’s not at all unusual for GID to start as early as two or three years old. For young kids I imagine the only effect of the diagnosis is to direct parents, schools, etc to treat the child in a way that is consistent with the child’s gender identity, allowing the child to explore in a safe environment what their gender means to them. Ideally this should also include battling stereotypes of gender roles while respecting gender expression, so kids who don’t conform to gender roles can explore their gender identity safely (allowing for butch girls and feminine boys, cis and trans). Basically, I think we agree on the key point – I’m not sure where not wishing to “sexualise children” comes into this.

      Good luck to this kid and the community to which they belong.

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  14. rapture  20 Feb 2012, 7:15pm  Report
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    So what? There are younger GID kids in britain, they have just not been diagnosed yet.

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  15. James E.  20 Feb 2012, 7:19pm  Report
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    Keith, I never understand what your point is? You just always spew a rant with spelling mistakes. What exactly are you saying? That people should be moral? That people can change their mind? Duuuhhhhh. I think even the five year old already knows that. Get a life you sad troll.

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    1. James E.  20 Feb 2012, 10:58pm  Report
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      I still don’t get what your point is. Something about compasses, objective and subjective and then the only point you ever make, which is that you are homophobic. How many times do you have to repeat that, everyone knows you are homophobic. Which is your only point. So every comment you make you may as well say….. I am homophobic. Because that’s all you ever say.

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  16. t avery  20 Feb 2012, 8:09pm  Report
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    okay im the parent of zachy and im posting here only as you guys are being nice lol
    no 1 the reason zachys called he /she throughout the article is simple because i reefuse to call him it nine times out of ten we just refer to or child as zachy but with three other kids mixes sexes sometimes out of habit i shot tea time boys girls lay the table lol
    subject to what yahoo commenters have said i am not a single parent zachy has a very strong male inflence and hes not having any ops at 12..when zachy reaches puberty then the process of intense concilling etc starts if zachy is still the same and if zachy wants to there are hormone tablets etc that can be given but as far as im aware legally 18 is still the law now if zachy is still dressing as a girl and being a girl at 18 i think thats old enough to decide…or main reasoning for this was a to raise awareness about this condition as its swept under the carpet and not a lot is known about it..thanks for support xxx

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    1. I didn’t see this before I posted, and it seems I was quite rash. Please understand I wasn’t criticising you! I’m recently out, and, well… I just know how much misgendering hurts. You’re doing well, thank you for supporting your child.

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    2. Jane Dav  20 Feb 2012, 8:57pm  Report
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      As a woman with a trans history I can say that my first feelings that I should be a girl were at about the age. Growing up in the 60s there was no understanding and support so I felt that I just had to conform to perceived ideas of normality. I also agree with some comments that a lot of children go through phases at that age and it is too early to make a life changing decision. I think that Zachy’s parents are showing fantastic support and doing the right thing, bless you both xx

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    3. LMT Home Phone  21 Feb 2012, 4:05am  Report
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      Having a support system from family is half the battle. He is young he could decide he is gay, as he gets older, but he will make that decision, it’s what he wants, and he is so lucky to have a loving family. We don’t need to worry about you, your doing the right thing.

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    4. phoenix  21 Feb 2012, 6:21am  Report
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      I had a feeling your mixed pronouns stemmed from something like that – I got into a minor debate on facebook about the matter. Zachy is still very young and I can only imagine how it must confuse you a little – but more importantly you are being fully supportive of your child, truly the thing Zachy needs the most. You are good parents, no matter what the nay-sayers have to say on the subject. Ignore the haters and go on supporting your children in their lives. Well done :-)

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    5. kerry mcfadyen  28 Jan 2013, 10:58pm  Report
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      hi there i would be most greatfull if u could get intouch with me my email is kerryayden@hotmail.co.uk im going through this too my son is only 3 xx

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  17. Whoawhoa… pink news, seriously! I mean, yes the parent uses he, but the child describes herself as a girl.

    “he would become upset if anyone referred to him as a boy.” – ‘him’ as a ‘boy’. ‘Upset’. Surely that means you do not then describe her as a boy!

    At the very least, if the parent has requested that female pronouns not be used, you could refer to the child with neutrality…

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    1. Spanner1960  21 Feb 2012, 7:09am  Report
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      Sorry, but I get this all the time with TS/TV/CG type people and not knowing how to refer to them. If you get it wrong you get a herd of people flaming you for mislabelling them.
      Would you prefer the child was referred to as “it”?

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      1. If you don’t know or object to a trans persons identity would it not be better to just not use the pronoun rather than get it wrong?

        Its not that hard and its all we ask.

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        1. Spanner1960  21 Feb 2012, 4:30pm  Report
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          Sorry to sound a bit obtuse, but can you demonstrate an example?
          I actually find it *very* hard to know how to address transexual people without upsetting them.

          Also, in the case of this boy, at 5 years old he has no sex life, so one cannot determine his/her/its sexuality. (Delete as applicable)

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          1. James Pittman  27 Feb 2012, 7:09pm  Report
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            Address them how they would like to be addressed. Ask for their name, ask them how they would like to be addressed. Just like you respectfully would for any individual. If you don’t want to dehumanise yourself and other people I would seriously reconsider referring to people with the word ‘it’.

            Also, sexuality has nothing to do with this. Even if it did, I don’t see any evidence to suggest anyone is trying to determine Zachy’s sexuality.

    2. Actually, yes they can. Gender is fluid, not binary. .

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  18. phoenix  21 Feb 2012, 6:29am  Report
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    First, you are applying a third persons (in this case, the mother) perspective to someone else. The *only* person who really knows if it’s a ‘choice’ is Zachy. Anyone else – even parents – have only an opinion. The medical professionals have diagnosed this child as having a known medical condition. The child has made the choice to live in a way that best suits them (note, this is different from choosing to *have* the condition). The fact that Zachy tried to remove her male genitals says a LOT. This isn’t a child choosing something, but a child instinctively *knowing* something.

    As for your mention of ‘moral’, I’m drawing a blank as to what relevance morality has to this subject.

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  19. Janet Lameck  21 Feb 2012, 2:44pm  Report
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    I’m so glad Zachy’s parents are so open minded, and willing to let her decide what sex she wants to be1
    gOD BLESS YOU ALL.

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  20. Miguel Sanchez  21 Feb 2012, 3:44pm  Report
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    It’s great to see Zachy has his parent’s support.

    Go for it sweety, what ever makes you happy.

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  21. lynda frank  25 Feb 2012, 3:34pm  Report
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    Sounds just right to me …

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  22. kerry mcfadyen  28 Jan 2013, 10:50pm  Report
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    i am a mother of 5 and my son at age 3 is going through this, im looking for advice of any sort and wouldd like to speak to other mums who are going or have went through this with there child after reading this im so glad there are other out there supporting there child as i will do mine and if he would be happy a girl then i would rather a haay girl than a unhappy boy

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  23. kerry mcfadyen  28 Jan 2013, 10:55pm  Report
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    sorry this might be a bit forward but if zachs parents do happen to read this i would be so great full if u could get in contact with me i would be so so greatful

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