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India: Supreme Court hears arguments for anti-gay law

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  1. ““The time has come for all religious leaders to unite on this issue and jointly protest the government’s proposed move to legalise gay rights”

    As usual.

    The religious sticking their unwanted oar in.

  2. Hard line muslims hating gays? Well, goodness gracious me whatever next? You’ll be telling me a man can walk on water then turn it into wine and rise up from the dead next will you? The religious, don’t ya just lov em?

    1. PN could also have listed the others listed as joined in the case against decriminalisation: Utkal Christian Council, Apostolic Churches Alliance, astrologer Suresh Kumar Kaushal, and yoga guru Ramdev.

      1. I’m not surprised to see Ramdev among the protesters.

  3. i believe that “carnal intercourse against the order of nature” is a religious concept and since india is a secular state such interpretation should be disqualified entirely as a legal argument

  4. GingerlyColors 16 Feb 2012, 11:16am

    I hope Delhi’s Supreme Court’s judge throws out the challenge and sends the legal bill to the religious zealots who challenged the 2009 High Court descision. If they want a Muslim country then they should go over the border into Pakistan. India is a secular country that has no room for religious laws. I do not know why it took them 62 years after independence to stike down an old, outdated British colonial law in the first place.

  5. Paddyswurds 16 Feb 2012, 11:16am

    Once again a clear and urgent reason why we must all work tirelessly to consign all religion to the dustbin of history.
    it is so clearly demonstrating that it is anathema to modern life if it ever was anything else, which I seriously doubt.
    Even their language when trying (and failing) to talk about modern life , is archaic.
    What hole in the deep bowels of the Earth do these people inhabit, that the twenty first century seems to have missed them so completely.
    Hopefully the Indian court will show them right from wrong before showing them the door.

  6. Once again – Religion poisons everything. There is no greater enemy to LGBT rights, safety and dignity across the world than people’s insistence on believing in bronze age supernatural cr@p.

    1. Don’t group all religions together. Its just as stupid as when people group all gays together.

      1. Valsky’s right though. Blind devotion to a creed by necessity requires adoption of a narrow viewpoint, which by extension excludes all those who don’t conform. Exclusion and in-group thinking leads to suspicion and discord if not outright hostility, so I think saying “religion poisons everything” is actually pretty fair, if by “everything” you mean tolerance, peace and human well being. At its most benign, it’s a barrier between different people. At its worst, it’s genocidal.

  7. Don’t allow a minority of Islamists to make law in India. 80% of Indians claij to be Hindu. None of the sacred Hindu texts, such as the Vedas or the Upanishads, contain a straightforward condemnation of homosexuality akin to that found in the Bible’s Leviticus 18:22. The frankest reference comes in the Laws of Manu (in Sanskrit, the Manusmrti), one of the dharmasastra texts that lists religious laws. There is a lone verse that reads: “A twice-born man who commits an unnatural offence with a male, or has intercourse with a female in a cart drawn by oxen, in water, or in the day-time, shall bathe, dressed in his clothes.”

  8. religious retards again .
    not only they want us dead they also do not want us to live in peace
    religions are not natural they are man made crap , you can never stop us from being gay , shove your religion up your ass

  9. Sister Goodlove 16 Feb 2012, 3:37pm

    Why are there any Muslims in India? Didn’t they divide the country up in 1947 and form Pakistan?

    Why have traces of this poison remained in India, and gained what looks like a political foothold again? Abort or deport.

    1. Much of India was ruled for centuries by the Muslim Mughals, and today it has some 177m Muslims, making it the third biggest Muslim population in the world (and almost the same as Pakistan).

      The Partition was in many many ways a disaster: where do you suggest people whose families are no less native than Hindus or Jains or Buddhists be deported to?

      1. Sister Goodlove 16 Feb 2012, 10:22pm

        I suggest – as have people high in political office – that the UN oversees a lengthy but doable swap, in which Buddhists, Jains and HIndus migrate from Pakistan to India, and Muslims go to their beloved, stinky Utopia.

        And of course the Partition was a disaster. Anything involving Islam is a disaster, and I am STILL waiting for someone to give me evidence to the contrary.

        1. Don’t get me wrong, I’m under no illusions about the toxicity of many Islamic attitudes, but I think you’ll find scant evidence to support the idea that any form of forced ‘repatriatriation’ is in any way doable (repatriation of all those British people of Norman descent to Normandy, perhaps? French Protestants to the Low Countries or Switzerland?).

  10. No human is less. God made us all equal its just we people who in the name of race, religion, caste, gender etc. discriminate each other. Its just that simple STOP DISCRIMINATION. Just love everyone and treat them the same and equal. Spread PEACE and LOVE not HATE and DISCRIMINATION. Only that day our God would be happiest ever.

    1. Please do not include me in the ‘our’ you are using in the phrase ‘our God would be happiest ever,’ because I am my own god.

      Religious people assume and expect we will accept that we were all made by their god. Please stop it. Ignorance and arrogance so often accompany religion – reasons why we dislike religious beliefs.

  11. Staircase2 16 Feb 2012, 8:51pm

    …Bloody idiots…
    What is WRONG with these people…!?

  12. Robin Evans 16 Feb 2012, 9:29pm

    Oh please… Like this will amount to anything…. India is not stupid, they don’t want a fight with the west just when they have made it into the big-time…

    The kooks will be allowed to air their dirty laundry and then they’ll be given a rational answer in today’s legal language…

    It’s another storm in a teacup…

  13. Their is now a gay prince in India, and many more gay officials there that need to come out and others for their families and communities constitutional and human rights, you remove biggoted dictators who commit crimes against humanity, and human rights violations against others anyone no matter what their title is must be occosted and reprimanded for hate crimes, people are people , a rapist is a rapist, no matter what their titlle is , if they rape someone they must be arrested, like sadam, the dictator of new jersey the governor, their is the only republican biggot, that is trying to stand in the way of human rights and constiutional rights in the whole state , the people have spoke and the rest of the mayors and ;human rights politicians have spoke and you have one white racist klanmanman, committing a hate crimes against humanity, and a violations against the constitutions rights and human rights of the rest of the state, he must be removed, immediately like janice, daniels ,

  14. PN has apparently missed that this case could only be raised – as it has – by the official body responsible for protecting the rights of children in the state – sort of the equivalent of England’s Children’s Ombudsman but with more powers, including raising cases with the Supreme Court. It would otherwise be a done deal by now. This surely begs the question why that children’s rights body thinks decriminalising homosexuality is against the interests of under-18s. How can that body ignore the benefits for LGB youngsters when so many have had to flee their homes, or commit suicide, or are even killed by families out of “shame”? How on earth did this even get on their list of priorities when so many real abuses face children in the country?

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