Ugandan gay death penalty bill back in parliament

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  1. Jonpol  7 Feb 2012, 4:58pm  Report
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    Thabo MBeki is right, and so is Obama.

    I strongly suspect that Janet Museveni is pushing Bahati.

    I also hope common sense will prevail.

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  2. David  7 Feb 2012, 5:14pm  Report
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    Apparently we give about £100m a year to Uganda in International Aid. I’m sure there are other countries that could make use of this money.

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    1. Keith Farrell  7 Feb 2012, 5:34pm  Report
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      I agree with you, why should we as gay people allow any of our tax money to go to a country like this, I think we must make rules for our own country, If our tax money goes to a country like this we will not pay tax, the country cannot jail all of us for refusing to pay tax

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  3. David  7 Feb 2012, 5:15pm  Report
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    I wonder how much American fundamentalist cash he receives for this. Must be quite a bit to keep returning to the same failed idea over and over.

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    1. A N Spit  7 Feb 2012, 5:32pm  Report
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      Anyone who has seen Bahati talking on this subject knows that he is a totally fanatical homophobe.

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      1. Jonpol  7 Feb 2012, 9:53pm  Report
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        yep… single-minded Bahati.

        It beats me how an independent MP could have such power…er..unless he is supported by someone important, say the President’s wife, Janet Museveni, another blind and narrow-minded bigot with eyes popping out of her head when she speaks in public. Mercy.

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  4. Given that the church has a significant part in this, will the Church of England (part of the Anglican communion) take a clear and decisive stance on the bigotry in Uganda … ah well, just an idea – but as long as that homophobic, inhumane Sentamu is in authority LGBT people won’t matter (even if they are killed) …

    What is the UK and US government going to do about this – they have talked the talk very very well and made it clear what they could do to ensure other states are fair and reasonable to all their citizens including LGBT citizens … Now, its time to show that words have action behind them and scrap ALL aid to Uganda.

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    1. So what will become of Ugandan LGBT citizens?

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      1. They’ll be in jail awaiting execution.

        With the money we’ll save from stopping aid we can increase donations to pro-gay NGO’s. We can also fundan education scheme which tells LGBT Ugandans how they can claim asylum in civilised countries.

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      2. So would you just continue the way things are, Bob?

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      3. “So what will become of Ugandan LGBT citizens?”

        Exactly the same as happened to the Jews in 1930s Germany. (i.e. Bliblically justified genocide)

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    2. Jonpol  7 Feb 2012, 9:46pm  Report
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      If you’ll recall, Dr. John Sentamu vowed to remain silent on the Ugandan proposals in November 2009, a month before his brother, Robert Kayanja, who is pastor of the Pentecostal mega-church Rubaga Miracle Center Cathedrale in Kampala, was accused of sodomy by Rev. Martin Ssempa himself.

      It was part of a smear campaign, a power struggle that was called the ‘pastor wars of 2009′ at the time.

      The Pentecostal church in Kampala has expressed its support of the ‘kill-the-gays’ Bill, so Sentamu and his brother are cut from the same cloth, and it’s just as well that he keeps out of it, publicly at least.

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  5. Robert in S. Kensington  7 Feb 2012, 6:05pm  Report
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    We should demand a refund of our taxes if this materialises. If only that were possible.

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  6. Uganda clearly no longer requires aid money.

    They have been warned repeatedly about the consequences for legislating in favour of homophobic genocide.

    So it’s time to stop funding the genocidal Ugandan regime.

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  7. Why do they want to murder innocent people? Are the Christians behind this again?

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    1. yea…. American Evangelicals in particular.

      Scott Lively triggered the frenzy in 2009.

      Here is Lively first lecture to a Ugandan audience:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amVnWtpR1is

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      1. However let’s be very clear.

        The responsibility for this genocidal law lies squarely with Uganda. The American christian cultists found a very receptive audience for their murderous gibberish.

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        1. Jonpol  8 Feb 2012, 1:55pm  Report
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          Certainly the Ugandan pastors and politicians can be held responsible on many counts of nurturing the anti-gay rhetoric and the formulation of the ‘kill-the-gays’ Bill, while American Evangelicals simply fanned the flames of religious homophobia among the mostly ill-educated Christian congregations.

          Also, it was Uganda who failed to uphold the international human rights treaties it had signed, including the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

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  8. Har Davids  7 Feb 2012, 11:47pm  Report
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    Let’s stop all funding to countries like Uganda and use the money to help the gay communities, if necessary by relocation to a more gay-friendly environment. It would show the more civilised countries mean business.

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  9. A N Spit  8 Feb 2012, 12:05am  Report
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    If they pass this its an act of war against the civilised world.

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  10. GingerlyColors  8 Feb 2012, 7:56am  Report
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    Hunfreds of thousands of gay men and Lesbians will want to emigrate to countries where they will not be persecuted. Different countries have different views on immigration and while we in the UK would like to take such people in we are unfortunately getting rather full. I therefore suggest that the United Nations create a safe haven area in central Africa. Such a haven could evolve into a new country for persecuted gays in much the same way that Israel became a haven for Jews migrating from post-Holocaust Europe. That way LGBT people will not have to travel thousands of miles and beg to be let into countries should they wish to escape thugs like David Bahiti.

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  11. ENDTHEFEAR  8 Feb 2012, 8:28am  Report
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    Hopefully having strong leaders like Obama and Mbeki condemn this grossly inhumane treatment of LGBTs in that state will invoke a more positive outlook in that country as far as LGBT rights go.Hopefully politicians in these struggling states will begin to syopo shifting the blame of their blatant incompetencies to any one that couild potentially go in as enemy. -Endthefearnow (Twitter) Endthefear (Facebook)

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  12. Endthefear  8 Feb 2012, 8:30am  Report
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    STOP THIS HATE

    Endthefearnow (Twitter)
    Endthefear (Facebook)

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  13. It’s appalling we give this country money when they’re human rights laws are so deplorable. And now this…It just takes my breath away, it really does….

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  14. This law frankly takes my breath away. It’s appalling we give a country like this 100 million a year when their human rights laws are so despicable.

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  15. Ugandan paradise  8 Feb 2012, 11:02am  Report
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    Those that are drawn irrationally to the anus clearly have a mental disorder and are in need of counselling or therapy. The anus is the residing place of excrement and should not be touched by the penis.
    These sodomy laws exist to protect innocent people from loathsome diseases which kill innocents including babies.

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      1. Poor Keith is back again:- The failed ex-gay that can’t seem to shake his obsession with men’s derrière and what he’s like to do with them.

        Luckly he has alcohol to turn to in his time of need, otherwise he’s be a travesty of a human being….

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        1. He went away for a while … wonder if he needed the padded cell this time whilst he was away …

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    1. Hamish  8 Feb 2012, 1:20pm  Report
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      Those homophobes that are drawn irrationally to gay sites clearly have a mental disorder and are in need of counselling or therapy. Gay new sights are the residing place of gay people and should not be touched by homophobes. The Equality laws exist to protect innocent people from the loathsome ignorance which ruins innocent peoples lives including babies

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      1. It gets worse!  9 Feb 2012, 1:59pm  Report
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        If you think seeking to protect innocent people from deadly disease is irrational, it is worse than I thoight

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