In theory I love the police but the police in my eyes are low life criminals, who polices the police?
They certainly do seem to be particularly brutal in the USA. Not sure if that is true everywhere though
As an ex police officer in the UK (declaring my bias in advance) – I can say that my experience is that there are some (but few) bad apples in the UK …
Who are the police, policed by – the IPCC, Parliament, the public, the media, the courts ….?
In the US the situationmay be somewhat different
Every story has two parts. As Stu stated there are a few bad apples. Much like in our Community. I as well am a police officer and over all America has made large advances in this area.
yes, and PIGS deserve to eat from slop buckets too. No wonder people hate cops. No wonder people of a non-heterosexual persuasion have a low and derisory opinion of the police services.
PIGS…. and you wonder why people call you this?
I don’t know anyone ( other than criminals) who hates the police. They are quite good to gay people in the Uk these days, and join in gay pride.
Felicity – I was attacked in my own house by some people who had come round to rob my partner. I was subjected to a physical attack in which I was injured and then homophobic abuse when the assailants realised we were a gay couple. When I reported this to the police I was told by the officer “you’re just being hysterical and petty”. We are not criminals – just people selling something on eBay who ended up attracting a criminal element. It was the criminals who were protected by the police in the end. Just because some policemen are black and some policemen are gay doesn’t mean that homophobia and racism aren’t rife in the police force.
You are very true in what you say, and your experience sounds appalling …
However, I would argue there is an opposite to your argument that may also be true. Just because you had a very bad experience at the hands of some police officers does not mean that all police officer behave in that manner.
Allan, 1,600 police officers in the UK have been killed in the line of duty. Shot, stabbed, blown up, battered, run over or fatally injured whilst helping or protecting you, the public. Perhaps you should take a long hard look at your own hatred and hate speech before passing judgment on others.
Absolutely … Well said …
Police are the biggest bullies around. In theory there MUST be some kind, ethical, upstanding police men and women somewhere – but in reality, that kind of decency just seems to be squeezed out of them. Screw the poor, screw the gays, screw the blacks, screw anyone who isn’t just like them. How disgusting.
Solution: make them like us. The Police force in NSW (Australia) still isn’t as diverse as the general population, but it’s way more than 20 years ago. I actually saw an (east) asian-looking cop once this year – and there is a Police float in the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras… they used to beat up the participants. Other states have progressed at different paces and it’s interesting to see the differing results around the country…
The only nonsense is being spouted by you Felicity dear. Times for cocoa and bed love.
The above ccomments seek todemonise all policemen but totally ignored the fact that these two were rowing in the street in the middle of the night and were most probably under the influence of drink. I have serious doubts about the veracity of their story (who answers the door in their underwear?) even in Ohio, a redneck farming State. blind support for Gay people just because they are gay is unwise no matter what the circumstance. The story needs further investigation before I shout Pigs at all policemen, just because two men with a penchant for brawling in the street say so..
I agree with this. They just sound obnoxious. Or would it be all right for them to be restrained only if they were straight?
Paddy read the article again. The incident regarding the trousers happened A FULL WEEK after the initial street brawl.
…and? Noone said any different. What has the timeline to do with anything . They were arrested late at night a week later and obviously were in their undies when arrested. It is you who needs to reread the story and this time wear your specs, pet.
The article doesn’t say they answered the door in their undies. The brother, quoted in the article could have opened the door.
The article also says they were cleared of assault charges.
The article also doesn’t mention them having been drinking either as far as I can see.
Also what the article does make entirely clear is that the two were cleared at trial of the charges. During that trial they were neither found to be drunk or disorderly, nor to have assaulted a police officer.
So, whilst you may ‘very much doubt’ the veracity of their story, your doubts would appear to be based on precious little in the fact department
Regarding you comment “(who answers the door in their underwear?)” there’s loads of people who answer the door in their underwear, if someone’s at the door and am in bed I just answer as I am I dort get dressed or owt, and if am in the shower/bath I just put a towel on.
….anyone answering the door in their undies has respect for neither themselves or the caller. As they say in the states, trailer park trash perhaps……
I answer the door in my underwear, if I’m in it its called being relaxed in your own home. Stop judging people just because they act differently to you.
Right. Because if someone isn’t as classy as you, then they deserve whatever they get. /eyeroll
You’re a snob.
So now we all know what to do.
Your neighbours are having a tiff on their way home. They are almost at their front door but you decide to go out an clobber them to the ground anyway – physical assault being legal for a cop with a grudge against his neighbours for being gay. Then, since you are a cop, who is perfectly legally entitled to take his bad temper out on anyone he feels like, and instead of calling for the cops first like any law abiding citizen would, you call your pals at the local cop shop before your victims can report your assault on them.
So now we all know what to do when a couple are having a bit of a tiff. You bash them senseless and then call the cops. Have them dragged out of their beds in the middle of the night, and into the street in their underwear, because it’s the victims’ faults. If they were straight they would never have been assaulted legally in the first place now, would they?
I wouldn’t just sue the cops. I would sue the neighbour as well.
I agree with Paddyswurds, before jumping to conclusions we should allow the matter to be investigated …
If it is as described – and surely custody suites will have CCTV to verify this … then its totally wrong …
However, its not uncommon for malicious accusations to be made either in the form of complaints or media stories about the police …
Of course, there are some genuine complaints too …
Of course they might actually be telling the truth Stu. After all the trial judge seemed to favour their account of events of the one provided by the Cleveland police department.
I think you have made the point before that if someone if acquitted in court (as they both were), them we mist assume they are innocent.
Absolutely, unless there is new convincing evidence … its right to presume someone acquitted in court is innocent of that particular matter …
I think homophobic policemen shouldn’t keep their jobs.
I agree …
We need to make sure that we find the evidence to ensure that homophobic cops do lose their jobs …
That needs to be calmly collected, relevant and real evidence rather than an angry reaction to a media allegation
Those cops should be fired immediately.
Rather than react to a media story, I would prefer an in depth investigation that identifies the facts and then (if proven) ensures the cops are sacked, and that any attempt to appeal that they have is not won …
Whereas, if we jump in and do not thoroughly investigate then the police run the risk of a counter claim for unfair dismissal – which is the investiagtion is not thorough may be difficult to defend ..
If they are homophobic – lets make sure the sacking sticks …
In many jurisdictions it is the police that investigate the police, or (only marginally better) police from another jurisdiction investigate the local police. What is always needed are civilan police review boards that invistigate charges against police!
We have that in England & Wales – the IPCC …
They do allow some matters to be investigated by internal affairs or professional standards departments within police … but they do most serious investigations themselves and oversee the other investigations …
Why should they be sacked? Homophobia is not unlawful. It is a legitimate position if one is disgusted with homosexual acts. Homophobia is a mis-approriated word anyway and one must have an irrational fear of homosexuals, not homosexuality to be correctly classed as a homophobe.
Of course, the homosexual disorder brigade have little concern for the true definitions of words, as evident by the re-defining of the word ‘marriage’, gay, queen, etc.
Do your bigotted vis extend to religiophobia and the crime of incitement to religious hatred. I don’t see you leaping to the defence of the religious groups that are the target of the criminal religiophobia on here. Integrity and consistency is not in you is it?
Have you called the police over the incitement to religious hatred from your fellow immoral cohorts? Have you asked PN to ban them?
People who commit offences should pay for their crimes but should not suffer prejudice, unfair treatment or discrimination because of their race, religion or sexual orientation.
Let’s just be absolutely clear here folks, the gay couple concerned were tried in a court of law and found not guilty of the offenses they were charged with.
Although all the information isn’t provided in the article, it is available for all to see elsewhere on the internet.
If they were found not guilty, they did not under the eyes of the law commit any crime.
The courts are yet to determine whether that is the case for the officers accused.
I am unclear therefore why there is so much animosity towards the two people in the story who have been found to have done nothing wrong.
Quite right, Sister. I know that if I were one of these gentlemen and my allegations were proven to be correct, I would be suing the police department and the officers in question.
The police system on local levels in cities and state are some of the main people commiting crimes, from drugs to sex trafficking, and for spousal terrorism abuse baterry, they must always have an outside national and internations transparency group of task forces gay and lesbian, and heter, for the protectiions of citizens against their own hate crimes and sex cirmes against people and their own families, THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE REPRIMANDED AND THE OFFICERS INVOLVED WITH THIS HORRIFIC RACIST ATTACK ON THESE WOMEN MUSTE BE DEALT WITH THE OFFICERS MUST BE ARRESTED AND FIRED FROM THAT PRESCINT, AND THE REST TOLD IF THEY CATCH ANY MORE OF THEIR INSURBORDINATE AND ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR, THEY TOO WILL BE ARRESTED AND FIRED, THE ACT WAS A TERROR ACT OF SEX CRIME FOR NOT GIVING THEM CLOTHES, THEIR PANTS TO PUT ON AND AND HATE CRIME BY THE OFFICERS FOR THEIR ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR TOWARDS THEM OUT OF THE POLICES OWN BIGOTRY AND VIOLENT BEHAVOIR TOWARDS WOMEN AND GAY WOMEN, MORE THAN TWO COUN
This is gonna result in a multi-million dollar lawsuit which they’ll win for sure!
It should come directly out of those police officers pay cheques.
The police in America think they are the “Army of God” and they even have said they will kill gays. The police in America are no different than the gangs in America, they do what they want and kill who they want and they get away with it.
A copy of the actual lawsuit can be found at americanlawradio.com
The website of their nationally recognized attorney is davidbmaliklaw.com
“Civil Rights for Civil Wrongs” – right on, David.