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Maryland girl: For my birthday, ban gay marriage

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  1. Home schooled, eh? I cannot imagine where she gets her prejudice from…

    1. Generally religious extremists prefer to home school. She knows not what wonderful experience he misses out on by not going to school.

      It’s very obvious she was told what to write.

      1. Bill (Scotland) 2 Feb 2012, 4:29pm

        I doubt very much she was told what to wrote. I would imagine that her home-schooling has brain-washed her sufficiently to make her quite capable of writing or voicing this garbage without any help. Undoubtedly she believes just what she said, that is far more worrying.

    2. Home schooled. I can see that she hasn’t given in to peer pressure.

  2. Very sad evidence of how easy it is for a child’s mind to be prejudiced by their environment.

  3. I hope she manages to get away from the toxic influence of her parents at some point in her life. Brainwashed kids sometimes turn into the biggest rebels once they get a bit older. Her bigoted parents won’t know what hit them.

    1. Deeside Will 2 Feb 2012, 3:27pm

      Yes. A relative of mine knew a family not long ago where the children were all home-schooled and were given an ultra-strict religious upbringing. When he turned 18, the eldest son declared himself a Satanist.

  4. Nutjobsareeverywhere 2 Feb 2012, 12:28pm

    This poor girl wouldn’t be confused if she proper education by non bigotted people quite easy really

  5. Parental manipulation of a child’s mind like that should be a criminal offence of child abuse. I really get a kick out of those that say being gay is a choice. Ignorance can be bliss, but it can also be hatred. And she knows adults who have changed….hell, I don’t know anyone who has changed from gay to straight!!

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:01pm

      Check out “And Such Were Some of You” by Anthony Falzarono, on amazon.com. Check out also “Straight Talk about Homosexuality” by Richard Cohen, available from The International Healing Foundation. Check out Anne Paulk’s book on Amazon. Anthony is a family friend, and one of Sarah’s fans.

      1. Is that the same Anne Paulk whose husband was the head of the ex-gay ministry Exodus until he was sacked for frequenting gay bars?! I’ve also met several people who have claimed to be changed but all of them have changed back in 10 years or so. I really wish the ‘christian’ right would stop promoting this stuff and concentrate on more important matters like helping the homeless like Jesus says they should do…

      2. Check out “Shaping your child’s sexual Identity” by George Rekers
        http://www.amazon.com/Shaping-your-childs-sexual-identity/dp/0801077133
        A book about bringing your kids up hetero form a founding member of the Family Research Council and NARTH who got photographed at an airport with a travelling companion he hired to “lift his luggage” from a gay escort website which was only accessable by subscription.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rekers

      3. Deeside Will 2 Feb 2012, 3:16pm

        Check out “Anything But Straight” by Wayne Besen and “Straight to Jesus” by Tanya Erzen, both available from Amazon. Also check out “Ex-Gays? There Are None!” by Rev. Sylvia Pennington, which, although out of print, is still obtainable second-hand.

      4. Not such a good friend that you can spell his name correctly (it’s Falzarano). Your family friend is an ex-rent boy (as a prostitute he serviced some of the big names in closeted conservative politics) who claims to have suffered sexual abuse at the hands of his brother. These are not experiences that most gay people can relate to.

      5. Do you mean this Richard Cohen?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Pg22ow1e8

        Please read the Kinsey Report, the Klein Sexual Orientation Grid, and use computer technology to keep abreast of the tremendous scientific discoveries in human sexuality.

        Also, keep in mind the harm done by ex-gay ministries.

    2. Hodge Podge 2 Feb 2012, 1:19pm

      We all brainwash our kids, as well as our peers. It’s inevitable. The key is to teach your kids critical thinking, and to question everything. I’m fine with that, because I’m confident the LGBT movement has logic on it’s side.

  6. Nathan Thomas 2 Feb 2012, 12:32pm

    Prejudice and bigotry is bred into people at a young age – and here is a great example.

    A 14 yr old girl wanting nothing more for her birthday than a ban on gay marriage. That has to be one of the most contrived and pathetic speeches I have ever heard.

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:45pm

      The phrase “Ban gay marriage” is ridiuclous. Truth is there is no such thing as gay marriage. Marriage is was always has been one man and one woman.

      1. You are right. There is no such thing as gay marriage. There is marriage. Those carried out by religions for there purposes and those carried out by the state for it’s citizens. It is not called straight marriage, just marriage. We do not wish gay marriage, we wish marriage. Same as anyone else.

        1. Kris is completely right … its just marriage …

          Per the dictionary:

          mar·riage (mrj) noun.
          A union between persons that is recognized by custom or religious tradition as a marriage, usually entailing legal obligations of each person to the other.

          Cranks perception that marriage is solely between a man and woman is both ignorant and false. It fails to recognise the historic many marriages, globally, that were of same sex unions. It is only since the 1600s that there has been such bigotry and irrational aversion to same sex partnerships.

      2. Nonsense. Go educate yourself.

        1. Lee Lohan 2 Feb 2012, 3:07pm

          Exactly. But alas, like a carnivore that won’t view the goings on of a slaughterhouse, she probably will just go on living in blissful ignorance. Best not to engage her.

      3. My marriage certificate says otherwise, clearly stating that my husband and I are married. I’m sure there are many Muslims around the world that can also prove you wrong.

        So much ignorance. Were you also perchance “schooled” at home?

      4. Marriages between same sex couples have been around for centuries until they got banned by the church (which didn’t approve of marriage originally as it was a pagan practice.

    2. Sarah Crank was quite obviously coached, as was her mother.

      I wonder what the father, Mr. Crank, has to say.

    3. Interestingly, such a birthday request is reminiscent of the only two birthdays mentioned in the bible. On both occassions the birthday wish involved the request for another person to be killed. She couldn’t really request our deaths but in keeping with biblical birthday tradition, surely she can request continued inequality.

  7. VodkaJulian 2 Feb 2012, 12:32pm

    I really feel bad for the kids who have been home schooled. Even though some kids feel like it’s fine, they have no idea what kind of wonderful experiences they miss out on.

  8. If the US really wants to preserve the “sanctity” of marriage they should ban divorce.

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:03pm

      Agreed it should be much tougher . This seems to be an issue that many can agree on. Can we work together on this? Will you help?

      1. Lee Lohan 2 Feb 2012, 3:08pm

        Oh dear..

      2. It’s called being sarcastic while pointing out right wing hypocrisy you dumb bitch.

  9. Home schooling – works every time! She should have asked for an iPod like most 14 year olds!

    Still – I blame the heterosexual parents!

    1. Why assume they’re straight? Some of the biggest homophobes are self-loathing gay people who feel it’s somehow necessary to hate yourself and others because of what religious people tell you. Anyone who raises their child to be intolerant and to hate must surely have real problems with self-loathing.

  10. Why is this young person giving evidence to the State Senate?

    To my knowledge, she is not a recognised expert on marriage or equality law. She is not speaking on behalf of a major activist group. She has no personal knowledge of same-sex relationships or parenting. She is not (at 14) a voter.

    So what is she doing there? Will Maryland be inviting her to set the state budget?

    I hope that all children of same-sex couples in Maryland will take this opportunity to write to the Senate to tell them that all they want for their birthdays is for their parents to be able to get married (though a new games console probably wouldn’t hurt either).

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:05pm

      One of the great things about our government is that those in office are elected to represent the people. At the State level, anyone can testify on any piece of legislation. The children of the GLBT community testifiy on a regular basis.

    2. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:47pm

      If you are talking about same sex “parents” only one of the partners is capable of being a biological parent. The other biological parent is there somewhere….

      We have an awesome system of government that allows all citizens to testify. I am immensely grateful for it. And believe me, the legislators get bored and love to hear from kids. They know that kids are our future.

      1. Lee Lohan 2 Feb 2012, 3:13pm

        Adopted children… Are they just non-existent? Are their parents (who may be infertile, as an example) just null and void to you?

        Shame on you. You are coming across as having a very narrow view of the world around you.

    3. I find it objectionable that a child like this is allowed to give evidence on such an important matter.

  11. What a shame I can’t hop in a TARDIS and introduce her mother to Nanny Knitting Needle.

    1. What a revolting comment! You really think it’s OK to say you’d go around forcing abortions on women?! Do you believe in ‘corrective’ rape too??

      The fault lies with her parents and their willful passing on of their bigotry, and intolerance and the way they’ve brainwashed another human being.

    2. Ben Foster 2 Feb 2012, 3:22pm

      sorry, but that is utterly inappropriate and drags us down to the troll level.

  12. I think the experience of Sarah Crank seems to fit within the definition of spiritual abuse.

    This is the definition as given by the US national Institute of Health:

    “Spiritual abuse is the act of making people believe–whether by stating or merely implying–that they are going to be punished in this life and/or tormented in hell-fire forever for failure to live life good enough to please God and thus earn admission to heaven. Spiritual terrorism is the most extreme form of spiritual abuse and may cause serious mental health problems. Those people who have not been spiritually terrorized have not necessarily been spared from spiritual abuse and therefore may still be in need of competent, spiritual counseling. Spiritual abuse, which may be active or passive, can best be conceptualized on a continuum from terroristic to zero abuse. Severity is determined by intensity, age of onset, duration, and individual reaction. The underlying issue in all forms of abuse is control.”

    1. Whether she is brainwashed or not, I’m still going to call her a little snotrag!

    2. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:07pm

      This comment is a key example of how those with an opinion contrary to the politically correct view will be ostracized and marginalized in our society if marriage is redefined. Canada is much farther down that road than we are.

      1. @Mrs Crank

        No …

        You are entitled to your opinion …

        You are entitled to tell others your opinion …

        You are entirely wrong in your opinion – but it is your right to make wrong choices …

        There is no redefinition of marriage … just ensuring fairness and equaity …

        I didnt think the USA was a theocracy (officially at least) …

        I thought all of your citizens were entitled to be treated with fairness, respect and decency … shame you expect to dictate how others can live …

      2. I tend to prefer the opinion of established clinical experts on what abuse is … rather than the gut feeling of someone based on “Scriptural evidence” …

        Science and evidence is more relevant and reliable …

        Your eminent clinicians in the US have made a clear and wise call as to what spiritual abuse is …

        Perhaps the Maryland Child Protective services should consider the well bring of Sarah?

      3. Oh poor you, how oppressed you must feel for being called out on your bigotry towards LGBTQ people.

      4. Tony used an ill-chosen word, but othwerwise he is right. Your child is rude, ignorant and intolerant.

      5. Aw, the homophobe doesn’t like being ostracized and marginalized? What a shame for you :*(

        Seriously tho, do you honestly not realise that what you and your child are doing is ostracizing and marginalising people, innocent people who, if they are allowed to marry, WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR LIFE IN ANY WAY. Can you not see that if gay people get rights, it won’t change your rights or negatively impact your life, but if you carry on demanding that the lgbt community doesn’t receive the same basic rights as straight people then they are going to suffer? It’s win-win for you, so why would you want other people to have a reduced quality of life?

    3. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:24pm

      She told the complete truth, and wrote her own speech, completely. I offered no help or suggestions, except to pare a few things out. There was more that had to be cut out b/c she was supposed to have had two minutes.

      1. Dr Robin Guthrie 2 Feb 2012, 1:40pm

        Clearly an evil deranged child then.

        Wishing to curtail peoples equality as a birthday present.

        Sick Sick Sick….

        1. @Dr Guthrie

          I entirely agree …

          I am looking up the email address for Maryland Child Protective Services as I read through this thread

          1. Ben Foster 2 Feb 2012, 3:32pm

            that’s a good idea. Perhaps there is hope for the child if she is removed from the unsuitable home.

      2. Ben Foster 2 Feb 2012, 3:27pm

        you know, frankly. I don’t believe that. But if it is ttue, then your child is a disgrace. She is a homophobe and a bigot at the age of 14. You should be ashamed to bring her up that way.

    4. Stu, that is a brilliant quote… which I am now going to copy and paste to a Word file for posterity. Thank you. x

  13. Poor kid….maybe she could should listen to Zach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ

  14. I feel sorry for Sarah Crank as she undoubtedly has suffered psychological and emotional abuse due to the manipulation of those who have engaged in spiritually abusing her and brainwashing her.

  15. I chose to be straight so I would fit into society, then I chose to be gay so I would fit in with myself.
    If my parents knew I was gay, they would have tried to make me straight.
    maybe deep down, she has a little lezzy side ;)

  16. Why are the words of a 14-year-old being used in this debate, at all? Who has an adult, rounded view of the world by 14? A child who doesn’t go to school is almost certainly going to be more blinkered still. I can’t imagine any other political debate hanging on a child’s words, and it’s very unfair to place such a spotlight on a child. Manipulative use of the child by evil extremists.

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:09pm

      See above comment about the GLBT community. Sarah is fighting for her future, a future which includes free speech and thought. Every post I read only convinces me more how important it is to stand up for truth while we still can.

        1. Dr Robin Guthrie 2 Feb 2012, 1:41pm

          “Sarah is fighting for her future”

          At the EXPENSE of others future……….

          You are one sick freak.

      1. @Mrs Crank

        You see, my definition of free speech and thought includes my right to disagree with you (and Sarah presuming it isn’t just your thoughts coming out of her mouth through your brainwashing!) …

        Perhaps your idea of free speech and thought means I am not allowed (even on an LGBT website) to disagree with you … but you see that sort of “free speech” is actually called indoctrination and intolerance (at best!)

      2. Ben Foster 2 Feb 2012, 3:37pm

        nobody is harming her future. she is harming OTHER people’s future for no reason at all. Same sex people marrying does not affect her one jot.

        On the issue of free speech, notive, Mrs Crank, that your comments ARE all still here. Nobody has censored you. We respect your right to speak. respect our right to rebut your ill-informed comments.

  17. Sarah Crank might have wrote that letter, however, she was TOLD what to write. I feel incredibly sorry for that young girl.

  18. I love how they bring up the word “one way tolerance”. We’re not telling you to LIKE gay marriage, we’re just telling you that we don’t want our rights restricted anymore. You can have your opinion but it ceases to be an opinion when it infringes on the rights of others.

    Hitler had the opinion that all Jews were scum and then he slaughtered people. The problem wasn’t his opinion, it was the fact that his opinion led him to infringe on the rights of others. I know murder is obviously more extreme but I don’t see why people’s opinions allow them to affect my rights.

    And honestly? I had two straight parents and they were awful. So apparently, I wasn’t missing out on a lot. :|

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:13pm

      Marriage is, was, and always has been one man, one woman.

      Despite how awful your parents may have been, you should consider being grateful to them, as you wouldn’t be here without them. I hope you don’t wish yourself dead, and that if you do, that you get some help.

      1. Dr Robin Guthrie 2 Feb 2012, 1:43pm

        “Marriage is, was, and always has been one man, one woman. ”

        Prove it..

        Lets see your empirical evidence, not just the blurb your religion tells you.

        And don’t start with the bible. As the concept of marriage predates that load of hogwash by millenia

        1. The Bible is the last place to look for “proof” that marriage has always been between one man and one woman anyway. Try telling that to King Solomon!

      2. @Mrs Crank

        No, marriage predates Chrsitianity …

        Prior to the churchs conception of it being male-female only there were numerous same sex unions which involved wedding ceremonies including some in church including in the Vatican itself if the records are checked thoroughly enough …

        Most extremist Christians prefer to gloss over this …

        Thats because evidence and reality does not seem to matter to them …

      3. Was and has always been?? Watch this as one example:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw

        And that’s just ‘Christian marriage’. Marriage has existed FAR longer than Christianity. You don’t own it and it’s not your place to allow your religion to interfere with the law and deny citizens equal rights. Why not look up those lovely passages in the Bible that were used to try to stop interracial marriage? Just as mean-spirited and wrong.

        1. lol… :)

      4. My parents were verbally, physically, sexually and emotionally abusive but just because they conceived me it wipes away anything they did to me? That’s perfectly and completely logical. What about adopted kids? Should they not be grateful to their parents because they didn’t give birth to them? Shouldn’t you be grateful because your parents raised and taught you well, not because they decided to have me.

        For the record, I do not wish death upon myself. I have adjusted because of my older brother. He was my father figure. Doesn’t that kind of prove that kids can have a perfectly balanced life without a mother or a father just as long as they have a role model?

        Also, history proves the one man, one woman theory wrong. Your argument is void.

  19. Father Ted 2 Feb 2012, 1:05pm

    It’s a strange system, that calls on a minor to testify before their parliament on a subject she’s not qualified speak on or could possibly know anything about.

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:14pm

      It is a wonderful system that allows all citizens, whatever their age, to have a voice.

      1. Father Ted 2 Feb 2012, 1:29pm

        A minor is not a citizen.

      2. Deeside Will 2 Feb 2012, 3:21pm

        And what, pray, does she know about gays? What you’ve told her?

  20. David Nicholls 2 Feb 2012, 1:12pm

    Why is this even getting ‘air’ time? The story here is that we have yet another victim of abuse and nobody is doing anything about it.

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:16pm

      Teaching your child traditional views does not constitute child abuse. Accusations such as this is our future if the homosexual activists are given the power to redefine marriage.

      In England, the high court ruled that those who have traditional views about homosexuality are not eligible to adopt children. This is an upside down world where harmful lifestyles are publicly encouraged.

      1. Father Ted 2 Feb 2012, 1:30pm

        It’s Spanner again isn’t it.

      2. B L Z bub 2 Feb 2012, 1:55pm

        The only thing harmful about it is people like you,

      3. @Mrs Crank

        I refer you to the definition of spiritual abuse from the United States National Institute of Health above …

        Teaching bigotry and brainwashing sounds pretty much like spiritual abuse and harming a child to me

      4. Deeside Will 2 Feb 2012, 3:37pm

        Supposing – only supposing, mind you – that a few years down the line your daughter discovered that she was gay herself. It’s just possible, because some girls do. Do you realise the damage that this sort of pernicious nonsense would have done her? Even if, like most girls, she turns out straight, spare a thought for other people’s gay children and don’t be so bloody selfish.

      5. Ben Foster 2 Feb 2012, 3:42pm

        Yes, it IS. Your child is ill-educated and ill-prepared for the real world where your narrow views, such as the view that gay people live harmful lifestyles are not accepted.

        1. @Ben

          Have today had an email back from authorities in Maryland – I emailled the wrong office (I don’t know their system) but it has been forwarded to the correct agency (along with 3 other complaints) … I shall keep you updated if I hear anything more.

  21. Kevin Flack 2 Feb 2012, 1:16pm

    I have to say, that at 14 I very much doubt what she said was hers… what kind of birthday present is banning same-sex marriage? I’ve followed this issue for 7 years daily and never heard something so ridiculous in my life.

    I don’t think it’s really her – I definitely feel some brainwashing though. What 14 yo knows gay adults that have supposedly became heterosexual? Is this mother bringing her 14yo to some “Exodus International” classes or what? Because that would be the only way she could say what she is at 14 – I just think it’s shameful.

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:17pm

      See my above comment.

    2. Kevin Flack 2 Feb 2012, 1:26pm

      I want to add somethign else as I am from Canada and my province of Ontario was the first in North America to pass same-sex marriage in 2003. Nine years later, still waiting for the sky to fall – still waiting for those divorce rates to climb, still waiting for animal-marriage… still waiting for all of those horrible things. It’s funny, Mass. has had same-sex marriage since 2004, and they still have the lowest divorce rate – explain that one, Kathleen.

      You say each comment is pushing you in the other direction. Well this whole thing has got me to now have a low view of homeschooling (in General) because obviously these kids are more adapt to brainwashing without having outside experiences influence their thought,

      It wasn’t her that wrote all that garbage – at 14 they’re not at that point yet where they can start talking about the courts, etc. And, like everyone has been pointing out, what 14yo would be asking for such a thing as a birthday present: irrational, illogical, repulsive

      1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:39pm

        Your statement that she could not have written it speaks to the efficacy of homeschooling and the maturity of the children that are homeschooled. She did indeed write it, and I take your comments that she could not have as a compliment to her brilliance. In Canada, cohabitation rates have skyrocketed. The 2006 census figures show that the numbers of same sex individuals who sought a marriage licence was extremely low. This is not really about marriage. It is about forcing society’s acceptance of a physically and psychologically dangerous lifestyle. In Canada, the greatest damage is being done in the public schools and to free speech and thought, as the homosexual agenda advances. A few years ago, the age of sexual consent in Canada was 14, and there were plenty of group bathhouses around, giving great freedom to sexual predators. Hope that is changed, but reducing the age of sexual consent is a stated part of the homosexual agenda.

        1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:42pm

          As to Massachusetts, a father was jailed for objecting to what his child was being taught in the public schools about homosexuality. The courts ruled in favor of the school’s right to teach what they wanted and nullified the parent’s rights to object. The most vile and pornographic material has been distributed to middle schoolers. Transgender proms with adults and kids are state sponsored. Check out http://www.massresistance.com for what is happening in Massachusetts.

          1. What an evil, hateful website “Mass Resistance” is – and how full of delusional garbage and bigoted scaremongering. Are all of your politics informed by the drivel you linked to, Crank?

        2. “but reducing the age of sexual consent is a stated part of the homosexual agenda.”

          Where?

          1. Kevin Flack 2 Feb 2012, 2:05pm

            See, it’s obvious that your anti-gay views have easily spilled over to your daughter like nothing else. OK your daughter is homeschooled, a friend doesn’t randomly come by one day and say “Let me tell your 14yo daughter how I went from gay to ‘straight’?

            – You didn’t answer me about the founders of Exosud leaving? On Mass. you deflected the divorce rates being the lowest in the country regardless of same-sex marriage and started talking about a random case of what’s taught in public schools.

            Unlke you, I will actually answer YOUR question. I just went to the Census page and it states: “Marriage statistics by sex are not available for Ontario as the province does not identify whether a marriage is opposite-sex” – furthermore, why is low a bad thing – it shows we are taking the time to find our mate, make sure they’re the right one and then marry. Please don’t boast about heterosexual marriage and your %’s of divorce because I don’t think you want to go there.

          2. Would someone send me a copy of this “homosexual agenda” because I’m starting to think you’re all holding out on me.
            I have a timeplanner on my wall at home and “reducing the age of sexual consent” just wasn’t on it.

          3. I wish someone would cc me on these updates to the homosexual agenda. How are we going to destroy straight society and implement our demands unless there is better organization? My copy just says “achieve equal rights for all citizens irrespective of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion or lack of one.”

        3. Wheres this “homosexual agenda”?

          Who wants to decrease the age of consent … not me ….

        4. Ah and now we have the all gay people are pedophiles line, your just an everyday bigot and your dinosaur views are no longer acceptable in todays society stop throwing a tantrum and get over it.

    3. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:27pm

      A friend of our family is ex=gay. Sarah knows and loves him.

      1. shadowhive 2 Feb 2012, 2:01pm

        This kid told the truth, but only as she saw it. Since her mother isolated her from others (home schooled her) and only allowed her to see ex-gays well, it’s obvious where this comes from. This poor girl was never given a chance to think otherwise, never exposed to any ideas other than what her controlling mother wanted.

        I hope she gets some freedom to experience the real world and meets real gay people on her own some day. Only then will she see the real truth.

      2. Kerry Hollowell 2 Feb 2012, 2:38pm

        ex gay, you mean he has decided for whatever reason to lead a straight public lifestyle

      3. Ben Foster 2 Feb 2012, 3:48pm

        there is no such thing as an ex-gay. That is a fallacy. prove me wrong, Mrs Crank.

      4. @Kathleen Crank: “A friend of our family is ex=gay. Sarah knows and loves him.”

        Pity he doesn’t love *himself*.

  22. Kerry Hollowell 2 Feb 2012, 1:18pm

    Kathleen Crank = crank by name crank by nature!

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:42pm

      Very funny…

      1. Ben Foster 2 Feb 2012, 3:51pm

        come on, it can’t be the first time you’ve heard that one if you’ve been spouting this sort of nonsense in public.

    2. @ Kerry – I could not have put it better myself, well said.

  23. Kerry Hollowell 2 Feb 2012, 1:22pm

    @Kathleen, I take it that you taught your daughter that being gay is a choice?
    Oh and by the way I have 3 wonderful daughters (2 biological and one adopted) they have had and are having a wonderful, open minded, full rounded, respectful and most of all happy upbringing with me and my civil partner. A far better way to raise children than the onesided, manipulated way you demonstrate.

    1. Kevin Flack 2 Feb 2012, 1:27pm

      wow, “see my above comment”… pretty much what you meant to say is “you have a point, and I have no comeback”

      1. Kevin Flack 2 Feb 2012, 1:29pm

        Uhuh – @Kathleen … you need to take a look at the founders of Exodus and how 2 years ago they bolted and left because they’re “back” to being gay again! Your daughter will be back in the legislature making an apology when she turns 18+ when she really has an opinion OF HER OWN.

        1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:43pm

          You know, Exodus is a thriving organization and there are many exgays who are successful in leaving that lifestyle.

          1. Kevin Flack 2 Feb 2012, 2:09pm

            yeah that’s because if you’ve actually talked to people who went through with it they use electrotherapy, they shock you with electric volts while you’re looking at gay erotic images – how natural is that? They tell you you are going to hell, etc. It’s a complete brainwash session something you should know a lot about (I have watched videos of people secretly videotaping what goes on there)

          2. @Mrs Crank

            There may be one or two who have been brainwashed into believing they are living a wonderful life after the Exodus ministry …

            There are thousands who have been psychologically damaged and bullied by divisive and devious people …

          3. That is simply not true, Kathleen.

            You’ve come to the right place, now open your mind a little.

      2. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:53pm

        You probably didn’t take the time to read my response to a similar post. I do have a life you know and can’t spend all my time defending my daughter on these blogs..

        1. Kevin Flack 2 Feb 2012, 2:13pm

          You mean defending yourself right, since it’s pretty much YOUR letter obviously – I mean really, we aren’t that stupid.

        2. It’s not your daughter’s opinion though is it? I pity you Kathleen.

        3. C’mon, Kathleen… you’re having a field day …

    2. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:31pm

      Dads are important. I hope the girls’ father is involved wth their life. (Unless there were serious abuse issues) . Apparently, you were heterosexual first (thus the natural children) and then changed. It is interesting that people don’t want to believe that people can change out of the homosexual orientation and lifestyle, but have no problem believing that they can change into it.

      1. Dr Robin Guthrie 2 Feb 2012, 1:44pm

        Do you just make this up,

        Gay people can make childlren. It just not very enjoyable.

      2. But there is no social pressure to become gay, as there is to “become” heterosexual. Sexual orientation is fixed before birth, and cannot be fundamentally altered by environmental pressures. For people without a background in medicine or psychology to claim otherwise is irresponsible.

      3. Kerry Hollowell 2 Feb 2012, 2:35pm

        Okay, first of all I am their dad, I am a gay man! their mum is very much involved, so they have all the contact they want and need from both parents. No abuse history in my family, although I find it very it very strange that you raise this???
        As far as my sexuality is concerned, from my earliest memories I knew I was attracted to men. I am in very happy long term relationship with my same sex partner. I also knew as a young adult I wanted children, and my kids are wonderful, loving, happy, bright, funny, caring and intelligent children/young adults.
        People can live a different life to their natural sexual orientation, i.e. a naturally gay man can lead a straight life style but that wont change the fact he is gay, and vice versa.

      4. Kerry Hollowell 2 Feb 2012, 5:36pm

        so Kathleen, answer my question,
        did you teach your daughter that being gay is a choice?
        if you did you are guilty of abusing your parental responsibility…………..
        but looks like you enjoy using your poor daughter to promote your vile agenda

  24. Unlike the children of gays and lesbians who have testified before various legislatures in favour of marriage equality, this girl’s testimony is purely abstract and impersonal. It was clearly dictated, or written under the overbearing influence of her mother. The claim that she has met “many nice adults” who have “changed” is the give-away. Where exactly does this home-schooled 14-year-old meet adults who tell her that they were once gay or lesbian, but have “changed”? “Put on your best pink dress, darling, mommie’s nice ex-gay friends are coming to dinner. We must make sure we reinforce appropriate gender roles for them.”

    Poor kid. One day she’ll regret the day she was made the poster child for a dying and discredited cause.

    1. Kathleen Crank 2 Feb 2012, 1:55pm

      Well , it is true and she was truthful. Her testimony of knowing exgays is personal.

      1. In what sense? Do you host parties? Are you just friends with ex-gays? Or are you a member of a group which is against gays which would therefore enforce the idea in a child’s mind that being gay is wrong?

        1. Kevin Flack 2 Feb 2012, 2:12pm

          EXACTLY! Like I wrote, it doesn’t make sense that any supposedly ex-gay person is going to randomly be like “let me meet your 14yo daughter so I can tell her about it”… the mom 100% initiated this and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see it.

      2. If you are the girl’s mother, I stand corrected. Have you introduced her to any equally “nice” GLBT people? Perhaps she would like to invite some over on her next birthday. You could, if I may respectfully say so, do with meeting few gay or lesbian couples yourself. You might find that you have much more in common with us than you thought.

        1. Well said, Clivejw. That’s an excellent idea, and I only wish it would happen.

  25. She was probably put up as an example of what isolating a child from reality turns them into.

    1. Father Ted 2 Feb 2012, 3:58pm

      Probably why home schooling is illegal in Germany, but of course religious extremists object to that.

  26. Robert Morgan 2 Feb 2012, 1:58pm

    She talks about confusing kids and “changing the definition of words”. As someone who’s just been explaining to my two young daughters (2 and 4) about marriage, good luck with getting kids to buy into any definition more complex than “when two people love each other…”

    I’ve tried to explain: “But I want to marry Martha. Why can’t I marry Martha?” etc.

    “Why? Why?”

    There’s a reason this girl had to wait till her 14th birthday to be sufficiently ‘sophisticated’ to argue against same sex marriage.

  27. B L Z bub 2 Feb 2012, 1:59pm

    I hope she turns out to be gay…….

    1. I don’t. After that upbringing she’ll be so mentally messed up the Far Right (or “Christians” as they get called in the USA) will use her as a poster child for the harm that choosing the gay lifestyle can do, completely ignoring who caused all the harm in the first place. Best she just fades back into the background from whence she came.

      1. B L Z bub 2 Feb 2012, 5:24pm

        On second thoughts, your right…

      2. Tom Backhouse 2 Feb 2012, 5:38pm

        Well, not neccesarily. I bet that if she ends up in a more accepting environment before the close of her formative years she could still turn out gay and OK. I know a chap who used to spout the standard homophobe rhetoric he’d got from his dad. Now he reckons he’s bisexual, and he seems relatively well-adjusted. Now that I think of it, I have a couple of gay ex-homophobe friends…

  28. See my comment above:

    “Is that the same Anne Paulk whose husband was the head of the ex-gay ministry Exodus until he was sacked for frequenting gay bars?! I’ve also met several people who have claimed to be changed but all of them have changed back in 10 years or so. I really wish the ‘christian’ right would stop promoting this stuff and concentrate on more important matters like helping the homeless like Jesus says they should do…”

    1. Something tells me that you won’t get any reply. This girl’s mother is obviously part of the medically discredited ex-gay movement herself. Shame she has to involve her child in her cultural wars.

  29. There is something quite hilarious, I think, about this girl’s murderous tweeness.

    1. Sometimes if you don’t laugh you cry…

  30. Jane Anderson-Hawkes 2 Feb 2012, 2:06pm

    ‘See above comment about the GLBT community. Sarah is fighting for her future, a future which includes free speech and thought’
    Apparently Kathleen Crank thinks LGBT people who are ‘fighting for their future’ are ‘activists’ whilst her own daughter isn’t described in the same way. Moreover, the LGBT community are also entitled to free speech and thought. Has she not realised that? I know that my children at 14 were concerned about boys/girls, what they wore and how much sleep they could get. But then I didn’t inculcate them with views that marginalised groups. I taught them tolerance, love, respect and free thinking. One now works in Oncology research, one is an IT officer and one teaches sport to primary school children and they are all wonderful. By the way Kathleen, I’m gay. Not sure then where my ‘harmful lifestyle’ went wrong. I’ve clearly raised 3 very good citizens.

  31. Marriage should be special. It should represent the love and commitment between two people, so, they can’t really ban gay marriage on the above reasons, and allow divorce too. Kids grow up in all kids of families and turn out just fine. It’s down to the parents involved how their kids are treated, and has nothing to do with gender or sexuality.

  32. The question to be asked is how she has got this idea into her head. Oh, she was brainwashed at home!

    Silly girl…. no idea about the big wide world out there.

    1. michael nadin 2 Feb 2012, 2:33pm

      brainwashed little bratt

  33. johnny33308 2 Feb 2012, 2:44pm

    I’ve not heard of anyone quite this entirely selfish in a very long time, indeed. Sad, really…and from a religious home….shame, shame upon her evil parents.

  34. I feel sorry for this girl. There’s something rather disturbing about the whole affair. It makes me very uneasy (and that’s completely ignoring the content of what she said).

  35. Brainwashing and right wing christian indoctrination at it’s best and most sickening.

  36. She could have donated her birthday money to charity – something positive. Instead she comes out with something so negative. I hope she later sees how wrong she was.

  37. de Villiers 2 Feb 2012, 3:27pm

    I have read Sarah Crank’s comments about the entitlement of her daughter, and others, to free speech and free thought. The line of argument is, however, faulty.

    No-one doubts the right of Sarah Crank to free speech and free thought as they relate to how she should live her life and how she should make her own choices in life. This relates to her internal preferences – what she feels is good for her.

    Sarah Crank, however, does more than that. She seeks to use free speech in order to interfere with the internal preferences of others. Or, in other words, to use her own freedom to take away the freedoms of others.

    We should all protect freedom of speech and thought. The issue of tolerance and freedom, however, properly relates to the choices we make over our own lives and not the ability to interfere with and deny the choices of others.

    Sarah Crank confuses freedom in seeking power not only over internal preferences relating to her but also to external preferences relating to others.

    1. Father Ted 2 Feb 2012, 4:00pm

      Very well put.

    2. Ditto.

  38. i don’t want to be too mean, but maybe she should have had some elocution lessons before addressing legislators, not sure how she could have been taken seriously with her lisping, i don’t think they got what she was saying

    1. Father Ted 2 Feb 2012, 4:02pm

      Not a good point to make, and none of it is the girl’s fault. She can’t help who her parents are.

      And lisping hasn’t held Ed Milliband back.

    2. I happen to have a lisp and I’m pretty well-spoken. So your point is just kinda rude, in my opinion.

  39. what a wonderful young woman!

    1. Why thank you, you can buy me a drink when you stop groping me.

    2. Maybe she is, but not on the strength of this bigotry dipped in sugar.

  40. Clearly homeschooled because she’s a bigot with bigot parents and much stupider than the others her own age

  41. this child needs to be helped .. and her parents are the worst kind of bigots
    what does a 14 year old child know anyway only the things her parents teach her .. one day she will be sorry for being such a fool
    Jim Nashville Tn

    1. Email has been sent to Maryland Child Proection services with web links to this story and comments …

  42. I REALLY must respond to this girl! She mentions how people have a “choice” to be gay and she doesn’t want to be effected by their choices. In all truthfulness, no gay person ever woke up and chose to be gay… we would never chose to deal with this and put up with intolerance from people like her and her mother. Whats funny is people like her are the one with the choice… the choice to be homophobic and what’s sad is that WE are the ones effected by her choice! Allowing gays to marry and enjoy the same rights as others in no way “effects” anyone’s ability to get married, but her choice in EVERY way effects everyone else to enjoy the same rights and privileges they have come to take for granted.

    Also, NOBODY in favor of marriage equality has a “one way tolerance” we are in favor of EVERYONE having the same rights… The only thing that is “one way” is people like her who think they should have a basic right and take it away from others… it’s sad really…

    1. All good points but please look up the difference between “affect” and “effect”.

  43. GingerlyColors 2 Feb 2012, 4:04pm

    LOL! Why don’t she go the whole hog and ask Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny to ban gay marriage? Children who are home-schooled are often brought up that way in order to shield them from modern society. Not only that such children end up lacking the social skills they need in adult life. How is she going to cope when she cuts the apron strings and steps out into the wide world. How is she going to go about finding friends and forming relationships when her life had been lived for her. A better 14th birthday rerquest is to be able to attend school and discover the diversity of other people.

    1. “A better 14th birthday rerquest is to be able to attend school and discover the diversity of other people.”

      Agreed.

  44. Some gay friends of mine have just had a baby by surrogacy, when that child is 14 I will ask her if she has missed out on many wonderful things. I think that I can guess what her response will be and that is absolutely not. She will be in a home of two very loving parents who have already been together for 15 years, both well off and live very well. She will also be given a balanced view on how the world is.

    I think is is also clear who wrote the speach don’t you think?

  45. Paddyswurds 2 Feb 2012, 4:28pm

    How well named is this little creep. Crank by name and crank by nurture…..

  46. “If they can change the definition of marriage, then they could change the definition of any word.”

    DICTIONARIES change definitions of words, deary.

    “People have the choice to be gay, but I don’t want to be affected by their choice. People say they were just born that way, but I’ve met really nice adults who did change.”

    Oops, evangelical slip-up. You mean they have learned to succesfully repress their homosexual feelings, and now lead a heterosexual life? Yes, I’ve heard about people like that, and they have greater psychological problems, still, for repressing their true selves.

    You misunderstand, missy, Gay people would like the right to marry the same as the crazy heteros who have the rigth to marry and divorce within the span of a day, But they would like it BECAUSE they think it’s special.

    I think you need to research more.

    1. … greater psychological problems…yea

      repression leads to neurosis, then to paranoia… then to aggression, violence…

      I’m curious to know more about Kathleen’s own educational background.

      Also, if Sarah is so brilliant, why is she not here defending herself??

    2. I bet when any future employers google her job application she may regret this fine little speech – her parents have done a fine job of ghettoing her for the rest of her life….

      1. If I had the choice between a candidate who demonstrates extreme bigotry, lack of empathy for people who are different and lacking respect for human dignity and equality – then they ain’t gonna get shortlisted, let alone an interview …

  47. I bet when any future employers google her job application she may regret this fine little speech – her parents have done a fine job of ghettoing her for the rest of her life….

  48. I suspect there are grounds to charge the parents with Gross Child Abuse!!!

    1. Great article, Jonpol

      I particularly like this bit:

      “Kathleen Crank describes herself professionally as a “public interest lobbyist.” The lion’s share of her “public interest lobbying” appears to be against gay rights. She has been active in the so-called Concerned Women for America; many of CWA’s most powerful figures have been caught out telling propagandistic lies against gay human beings. Here is a report with a full gay-bashing statement that Kathleen Crank made to the Maryland State Legislature in 2008 when her daughter Sarah was 10. In that shocking, counter-factual testimony in which Kathleen Crank bore false witness against all of those of her fellow citizens that happen to be gay, she said that 1) homosexuality is a “lifestyle;” 2) that a gay adult forced by prejudice into a heterosexual marriage has no right to liberate him or herself and the spouse from that untenable relationship; 3) that when women have AIDS, it is exclusively the fault of male homosexuals that they…

    2. … have it; 4) that the entire African AIDS epidemic is the fault of gay people; 5) that same-sex marriage legalized in certain countries in Europe has been “a dismal failure” and caused “cultural chaos” in all of Europe; and that 6) for the United States truly to have a government that is of the people, for the people and by the people, sexual orientation apartheid must be maintained forever.
      Kathleen Crank states that all gay human beings are unfit to be parents, that all research stating otherwise is a sham, and that most Catholic priests that abuse children are gay.
      One Internet commenter stated that Kathleen Crank has “weaponized” her daughter Sarah Crank, “in an attempt to destroy our rights.” The appearance certainly is that Kathleen Crank has taught her daughter Sarah far less about what loving commitment really means than she has taught her about relentlessly beating down a sexual minority as a nasty-spirited public arena blood sport.”

      So VERY “Christian”

  49. And from HuffPost:

    ‘Among those unlikely to agree with her (Sarah Crank) are Gov. Martin O’Malley, who urged lawmakers in what Reuters has deemed an “unusual personal testimony” at the same event to approve marriage equality.

    “The very reason for our state’s founding was for religious freedom.

    At the heart of religious freedom is respect for the freedom of individual conscience,” he said.

    “The way forward, the way to sustain and enhance our common life together, is equal respect for the freedom of all,” he said in unusual personal testimony that underscored the importance he attaches to the measure.’

  50. Isn’t this an example of child abuse?

  51. She has been very thoroughly schooled in the new Evangelical logic. Tolerance is a two-way street; we are intolerant for not accepting second-class citizenship in conformity with their supernatural beliefs.

  52. Staircase2 2 Feb 2012, 8:20pm

    ….hmm ‘Crank’ eh?

    Something tells me the poor girl hasnt been so much ‘home-schooled’ as indoctrinated by her parents and kept away from other kids from her parents fear of her being tainted by diversity…

    How on EARTH did they take a submission like that in the first place?!

    Its not exactly relevant is it…

  53. I suspect strongly she was put up to this by the parents. What depths won’t some opponents of marriage equality sink to?

  54. Idiot parents, make idiot children, make idiot comments against free rights.

  55. Robin Evans 2 Feb 2012, 9:38pm

    This STINKS of Southern Baptist indoctrination…. (Child Abuse)

    Whatever, I pity that child for it has no mind of its own….

    How could innocence judge against Love and Union unless it has been taught the bigotry of narrow, hateful and probably self loathing homosexual parents…

    Yes – turns out the biggest objectors to gay marriage are often closeted homosexuals themselves…

    Getting married and producing off-spring is no guarantee of heterosexuality…. I know, I’m gay with two wives, two kids, one granddaughter and one husband not concurrently….

  56. WHat a pile of rubbish, now the lives and future of grown up people will be decided by the birthday wish of an opinionated teenager!!!! A bigot teenager that speaks following the upbringing of intolerant parents and dark religions.

  57. It’s obvious that her parents made her do this. That, or if she’s been home schooled, then she’s probably been indoctrinated with homophobic views from an early age.

    1. I’d be a bit surprised if her parents directly made her do it. I would think it’s more likely that they’ve spent fourteen years brainwashing her so that she now thinks like this by herself and sees such action as perfectly normal and rational. Certainly her parents are responsible for the years of mental abuse that has caused this, but I find it only too easy to believe the specific idea of addressing the Maryland legislature on the subject was her own.

  58. Sarah reads as if she actually has no idea what she is saying…

    and she sounds more like a 10 year-old than a 14 year-old.

    I hope she’ll be OK.

  59. I am not surprised. It’s typical

  60. brainwashed by religion and her parents feel sorry for the deluded little witch

  61. TrannyGirl 3 Feb 2012, 7:32am

    Kathleen Crank, I’ve read the comments on this blog. The only negative comments here are directed toward you. We all feel concern for your daughter and the way you’ve raised her so far. Teaching lies based on the propaganda from church will do serious harm to her now and in the future.

  62. For my 48th birthday – please ban home schooling!

    1. Heheheheh!!!

      For my 33rd Birthday, please ban homophobia!

  63. I’m betting that critical thinking and the philosophy of ethics are not part of the cirriculum of the home schooling, nor any other subject that would lead her to question her parents beliefs and prejudices. I suggest that indoctrination is a more appropriate term than education for the home-schooling she is being provided by her toxic parents.

    They **** you up, your mum and dad.
    They may not mean to, but they do.
    They fill you with the faults they had
    And add some extra, just for you.’

    From a poem by Phillip Larkin

  64. She’s 14?! What the hell does she know?!

  65. At the age of 14 there was a hell of a lot more that I wanted than to ban anything. Her parents must have done a real job on her

  66. stuff like this makes me want to cry. How dare her parents teach her stuff like this. It’s not right.

  67. “If they can change the definition of marriage, then they could change the definition of any word”

    Yes “14-year-old Sarah”. The word “gay” you’re using originally meant ‘happy’, yet you freely use the new word with no judgement.

    So, let’s rephrase you’re babble with the proper word: “People have the choice to be happy, but I don’t want to be affected by their choice. People say they were just born that way, but I’ve met really nice adults who did change. So please vote ‘no’ on happy marriage.”

    Hmm…ironic! ;)

    1. If I hadn’t read the script, I would not have understood her garbled little speech.

      I think nobody there understood her, except her mother, of course.

      But I expect that when she grows up and turns against her mother, she will be quite articulate…. ;)

  68. For MY BIRTHDAY (tomorrow!) i want gay marriage equality. Marriage has and never will have, nothing to do with anyone else but those involved! So keep your sad homophobic Maryland views in your cookie jar!

  69. This is child abuse, the mother should be indicted for mistreatment of her under age daughter. No wonder U.S.A. is among the very few countries that have not signed the Convention of the Rights of the Child.

  70. Sad when a young mind is subjected to the ingornat views of parents. She doesn’t want to be affected by gay peoples “choice” well I don’t think that we wish to be affected by her choice to come out with such rubbish !

  71. Chris Wintermute 9 Feb 2012, 9:17pm

    Brianwashed by an already insular and religious fundamentalist community. A small minded petty view of other people. Lack of education or understanding of others, cultures or countries.
    It still shocks me that the “responsible” adults in this young 14 year old girls life are bringing her up in this way and are allowing her comments to be used by the world media to fan the flames of hatred against Gays and Lesbians.

  72. How easy it is to influence a 14 year old, sums up the comments here. So, how come Peter Tatchell wants to lower the age of consent to (at least) 14. Double standards as usual.

  73. She sounds almost like she’s reading from a script…

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