Zulu prince: King’s ‘rotten gays’ comment was ‘mistranslated’

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  1. Tia Maria  23 Jan 2012, 4:26pm  Report
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    Rubbish! This is PR machine at work.

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  2. Probably better for him to of apologised and moved on. Someone’s probably managed to film this speech so will see just how much of a mistranslation it is will cone out.

    Over to you youtube

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  3. Okay, so rotten is mistranslated, that’s bound to happen with language… Perhaps he meant morally or socially corrupt, unpleasant, rancid, immoral, hateful, or even terrible. Sounds better! Why was he even talking about this at an anniversary of the Battle of Isandlwana?! Perhaps he should stick to fathering children and buying cars.

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  4. Dan Filson  23 Jan 2012, 5:03pm  Report
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    Either he was condemning rape in contrast to the nobility of the warriors who achieved a devastating victory over the British at Isandlwana in 1879, or he is condemning same sex relationship now whether coercive or note. As Helen Wilson says, let’s hope there is a YouTube and a translator. If he said the latter, then I hope all Zulus and others from Southern Africa will not hesitate to condemn him.

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  5. well id personaly give him the benefit of the doubt for now, at least until we get some solid evidence of what was actualy said, could be he’s lying, could be the news report is as true as half the crap that comes out of the daily mail buuut im sure we’ll find out in due course

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  6. Again this is the Christians using propaganda to make gays look bad by saying bad things about them to make people think badly of LGBT people. The Christians did it in Uganda and they are doing it everywhere they can, even America where they are trying to stop people from using the world gay so that people will used other degrading words about gays. It is all part of the Christians psychological war on LGBT people world wide. The Christians who are involved are a group of mad men who need to be exposed and stopped before they make more trouble in the world. The Christian PR machine will try to say they did not do it but look at the millions of dollars the Christians are giving to Christian hate groups to attack LGBT people. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2005/spring/a-mighty-army?page=0,1

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    1. Talk about being anti-Christian. No part of the article says that it was a Christian who translated what he said, so your claims of this being a Christian “stunt” are unfounded.

      Seeing as this article has nothing to do with Christianity, I don’t see why you brought it up, but while we’re on the subject:
      I find it rather ironic that so many people who comment on this site openly speak against Christianity, but when others comment back reminding us that we should remember gay Christians and Christian groups which do support the LGBT movement, the original poster would comment saying that there aren’t enough to make a difference. It’s so ironic that a member of a minority group is dismissing the efforts of another minority group, saying that they can’t do anything to help. Afterall, you have to remember that WE are a minority group too, so surely if there are too few of another minority group then there are too few of us too and we should stop trying? Just something to think about.

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      1. It may not have said it but the tone and the content would lead any reasonable person to the conclusion that it was a “christian” fundamentalist viewpoint that was being stated. Like it or not, the facts are that the singular driving force in most of the homophobia is religious, in the main depending on the geography, either muslim or christian motivated. Gay christians or muslim who support the movement to equality are part of who we are as a larger community, they are hardly homophobic. Know your enemy because that enemy will hate you, and if given the chance will do anything to diminish you, and killing you is the option they would grab without hesitation. Is it not that the greatest enemy we have is the extremist in either christian or muslim belief holder who thinks we should be destroyed because of who we are?

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        1. He’s animist not Christian …

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        2. At no point did I say that gay Christians were homophobic. What I was saying is that their efforts are being discounted by the majority of the LGBT movement. So yes, we need to know our enemies, but we also need to know our allies and recognize their importance to our cause.

          It should be remembered that most Christians don’t actually have an opinion on this at all. Most of them couldn’t care less about whether we have rights or not, and so will not actively oppose us. It’s the organisations and particular individuals who hold the more extreme views who need to be fought.

          I’m quite sure a lot of Christians would fight the oppression by this minority, as the extremists are not even following their own faith properly. Any proper Christian should be loving and compassionate to all of God’s creation. God made us the way we are, and because He made some of us gay, that is obviously alright with Him, and so all Christians should respect that and care about us.

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    2. The king is not a Christian … he is an Animist …

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      1. A N Spit  24 Jan 2012, 12:05am  Report
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        The prince may be Christian, if it’s the Zulu Prince that shared a house in Brighton with that gay Indian Prince for a reality TV show, as he kept showing the Indian Prince a Bible to try and prove it’s wrong to be gay.

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        1. Reading up on reports of his religion in the South African press both recent and historical strongly suggests that he is animist …

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  7. C. Richardson  23 Jan 2012, 5:51pm  Report
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    As a former member of the media, I have seen many of my true stories warped into someones prejudice. Many people handle the information before it goes on air or to print. Do not depend on the media as a good source of information ever. Investigate anything you want to know yourself because only then can you get to the truth.

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    1. It is entirely plausable that the interpretation was wrong, whether malicious or inept …

      It has been seen many times before …

      It does feel convenient the excuse – perhaps someone with a recording could allow someone independent to verify what was said …

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  8. Be interesting to see if there is a recording of the speech and someone independent to provide a translation …

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  9. James E.  23 Jan 2012, 7:26pm  Report
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    “Nowadays you even have men who rape men…”

    Oh what is the world coming to prince zulu warrior. If only it were just women who got raped, the world really is in moral decline now that men get raped too.

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    1. A N Spit  24 Jan 2012, 12:11am  Report
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      Well it’s not just nowadays, as the supposed reason that Uganda is so anti gay is because a 19th century King there used to abuse the young men of his court, and they didn want to comply after becoming Christian, though this may all have been Christian/ political propaganda.

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  10. peter duncan  24 Jan 2012, 5:46am  Report
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    Unconvincing retraction

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  11. If it was a mistranslation, why didn’t they provide a correct translation?

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  12. Testing  24 Jan 2012, 8:50pm  Report
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    Testing Testing

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  13. Staircase2  24 Jan 2012, 8:53pm  Report
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    For some reason I am not able to post anything on here using my own name and email address yet am able to do so if I change it…

    Can someone on Pink News please comment!?!?

    I understood from the ENORMOUS amount of homophobic, racist & generally nasty comments which are posted on here on a regular basis that Pink News was ‘unable to do anything about them’ yet I am blocked from posting…..Why is that?

    (…and more importantly, how is that possible?!)

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  14. Staircase2  24 Jan 2012, 8:54pm  Report
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    YEP!

    Its linked to my email address – I just checked

    WHAT IS GOING ON PINK NEWS?
    (and why do you claim you cant do anything about all the truly APPALLING comments regularly posted on here seeing as how you must have somehow (for some reason) blocked mine?)

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