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Joey Barton: Gay footballers would face discrimination

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  1. It’s pretty obvious that gay footballers would face discrimination, which is why the FA should do something about homophobia in football.

    Unfortunately it’s an international sport and an international problem requires an international solution. I doubt FIFA care since they believe Qatar is an appropriate venue for a world cup…

    1. Homophobia should be tackled by clubs, national bodies and FIFA …

      Racism (whilst not always dealt with as effectively as everyone would like) is generally not accepted in football – partly due to the great work of “Show Racism the Red Card” campaign … Yes, there is more work to be done on racism, but progress is clear …

      Homophobia has not been given the same priority and that is shameful for FIFA, the FA and many clubs …

      This however is the same FIFA who feel Qatar is an appropriate venue for the world cup and that if “gays” have problems with this, that the solution is “to refrain from sexual activities” …

      The same FIFA who want Brazil to change their law to permit beer to be sold in world cup venues (and “will not negotiate” on this) – wonder if they will have the same approach in Qatar?

      The same FIFA whose president said “Look at womans football, homosexuality is more popular there”

      The same FIFA President who believed a player should be applauded for his affair.

  2. Dan Filson 20 Jan 2012, 2:59pm

    Somehow I don’t believe it when Joey Barton of all footballers comes all over touchy-feely. He may well not be homophobic, but gay-friendly seems at odds with my general perception of him.

    1. Maybe that says more about you than him?

      He’s not the sharpest crayon in the box nor is he the most even tempered and his new moustache makes him look a bit like Hitler (in my opinion) but by contributing to this documentary he is at least trying to draw attention to the problems that exist in football for gay men. What is everybody else doing?

    2. What is it about Barton that causes you to pre judge him as being unlikely to be gay friendly?

      Is it he is a footballer?

      Is it his criminal record?

      Is it his outspoken nature?

      None of these shout out intolerant or prejudiced to LGBT people (necessarily) to me ….

      Assumptions are dangerous things and often cause us to end up with egg on our faces, unless we are careful …

  3. @ Dan Filson, don’t use this forum to peddle your prejudice. Joey Barton is extremely bright and cultivated by footballing standards. His hero is (queer) icon Morrissey, which I think tells you all you need to know. He may have a chequered past, but he’s a decent guy.

    1. Could you explain to me what makes him a decent guy?

      1. What standards are you judging him by that says he is not …?

  4. Well at least he’s not trotting out the lie that it’s the football fans who are to blame for football’s bigotry.

    Homophobia in football needs to be addressed by the FA.

    I think it’s time to start naming names. Who are the football managers who are homophobic? And why are they still employed. They need to be removed from football.

    1. Whilst undoubtedly there are some football fans who are homophobic, they are responsible for their own bigotry

      The clubs, FA and FIFA are responsible (at different levels) for the culture of the game …

      It would be interesting both who the managers are and what the evidence is …

      The only problems I have with your comment asking why they are still employed is that it sounds like a witch hunt and recently you ridiculed a club who stood up to homophobia and sacked a player. I find your demanding sacking after criticising a club who did sack for homophobia inconsistent. However, if there is evidence of homophobia – particularly where this has led to oppression, bullying, harassment etc etc then robust action must be taken.

  5. you forget Joey Barton has been inside prison…so he knows what its like to be gay….hes not homophobic….

  6. Joey Bart isnt homophobic,,,,hes been in prison….knows what goes on in there….hes a tough guy….

  7. Trish Kirby 20 Jan 2012, 3:28pm

    I am more concerned about the documentary being fronted by Justin Fashanu’s niece. Justin Fashanu did nothing to gain peoples’ respect when he came out. All he wanted was column inches and his face on TV. He was brave to come out when he did and it was sad that he killed himself. But bragging on TV and in the press about the famous people one has had sex with is not the way to gain peoples’ resepct and support. Sorry this was a bit off topic.

    1. vversatile 20 Jan 2012, 4:02pm

      I think that perhaps you shouldn’t people by their relatives.

      Apart from that, it’s clear Justin Fashanu had a lot of problems – who’s to say how many of those were caused by his many years in the closet, while under the media spotlight and in a very homophobic atmosphere.

      1. Totally agree with your comments there vversatile. Justin Fashanu didn’t appear to have much support from anybody, including his brother, and in that sort of vacuum with so much attention, judgement, and villification heaped on one person it would be surprising if he was not to be buffeted about and exposed to the nastier side of fame as a solid core of love and support appeared to be denied him. I feel that he was a victim of his time and his shortened life an absolute tragedy. I hope that we have moved on a bit from then and that gay footballers would be better protected.

        1. If I recall, John Fashanu publicly disowned Justin after he came out and has not shown any kind of remorse that his brother died.

      2. I would also say that it is not uncommon for those exiting the closet to be “on a high” and for it to be the most important thing in their lives for a period. That would include talking about it to all who will listen. That euphoria of release from hiding dies down again for most but in Justin’s case he unfortunately didn’t stay with us long enough to come down the other side and live his life were being gay (or hiding it) were not some of his greatest pre-occupations.

  8. He is right sadly. In the current climate being gay in football just isnt an option sadly. But we never really think about homophobia in the team and locker room.

    It makes you feel sorry about them.

  9. Also it is a choice for someone to make, it should not be forced or pressured onto anyone, I except that these issues exists and suggest that training in Equility and Diversity and the law could be included in schools education and other institutions to address these issues.

    Rights & Responsabilities seems to happen when the issues arise, if awareness and understanding was understood by all, could we achieve to resolve these matters?

  10. I think Joey Barton should be credited for speaking out. Better that, than the wall of silence from the rest of the game.
    How about as a first step we encourage retired footballers to come out and to talk about their experiences.

  11. Why do we need to know who’s gay and who’s not. The gays should keep their preferences to themselves, the rest of us straights are not remotely interested.

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