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  1. DJ Sheepiesheep 11 Jan 2012, 5:03pm

    So next time Liberia descends into chaos the Western World can just ignore it?

    1. jamestoronto 11 Jan 2012, 6:15pm

      They’ll be busy rethinking their relationship with the west.

    2. Nameo Obum 13 Jan 2012, 1:52am

      That the type of insult African get from white homosexuals that make them harden their position. Why don’t you talk about returning what your ancestors looted from Africa and how they enslaved other human beings? Hypocrite.

      1. Why don’t you talk about how Africans enslaved other Africans and sold them to the white man, and continue to enslave Africans to this day? Hypocrite.

  2. Singapore Sam 11 Jan 2012, 5:11pm

    He’s an unpopular leader of the House of Representatives, looking for reelection. His own staff describe him as too mean to live, and want someone with more compassion.

    My guess is he’s looking for something populist to say to try and get reelected.

    By the way, this is an American colony, founded by American religious societies, as a place to send freed slaves. Clashes with the indigenous population have resulted in 250,000 deaths.

    1. GingerlyColors 12 Jan 2012, 6:46am

      Can you imagine millions of gay and lesbian people getting together from all the countries where homosexuality is still illegal or repressed and setting up a new nation? Whether it is the ex-slaves establishing Liberia or Jews founding Israel in the wake of the Holocaust or gays creating a new country, displacement of the indigenous population is inevitable particularly as all the land in the world is spoken for. There are enough gays and lesbian people in the world to populate the UK four times over, fortunately most of us now live in countries where homosexuality is legal but what about the less fortunate millions?

  3. So much for ‘the love of liberty’

  4. jamestoronto 11 Jan 2012, 5:56pm

    For a country that relies almost entirely on foreign aid and investment to survive, whose only ‘claim-to-fame’ in recent years has been a series of civil wars in which a quarter million of its people were slaughtered and the notorious trading of ‘blood diamonds’, it should be the US that ought to be rethinking its policy towards this homophobic state not the other way around. Liberia, which has the third lowest GDP in the world and cannot even afford to hold local elections, hardly has the clout to register an audible ping.

    1. David Myers 12 Jan 2012, 11:28pm

      If his views continue to prevail in Liberia, then this would be a good place to enforce Obama’s new rules on foreign aid. Start respecting human rights – including GLBTQ rights or loose your foreign aid. Sounds like a plan for Britain as well.

      1. Nameo Obum 13 Jan 2012, 1:55am

        Why not return what your fore parents stole from Africa before enforcing Obama’s new rule on foreign aid. By the way, you seem to be the only who hasn’t noticed that Obama has lost all relevance in Africa.

  5. It strikes me that its hardly democratic if the Speaker of a parliament refuses to allow a legitimate democratic bill to be progressed … he is but one elected representative – seems he neither understands human rights nor democracy …

    1. They have the American system, where the speaker is effectively the prime minister. Boner certainly obstructs the Obama government there as much as possible, regardless of the merits of the particular legislation.

      1. @A N Spit

        Firstly, thanks for the response – I am not entirely familiar with the Liberian parliamentary system, so whilst my comment was merely in general – it is useful to have the feedback. Thanks!

        However, there is still the democratic deficiit (which whilst I accept Boner does obstruct some of Obama’s proposals he does not blatantly say that no matter who raises a proposal on a particular subject that he will obstruct it) …

        I guess my point was more that a democratic leader (of whatever level) should seek to improve human rights and expand democracy not frustrate it …

  6. Wasn’t this country colonised by African-Americans when the whites were going through their eugenics phase?

    It kind of reminds me of the American puritans who claimed they were fleeing religious persecution from England, but in actual fact just hated our religious freedom and were looking for the freedom to persecute others.

    Liberia, although it has the ring of ‘freedom’, is also really about the freedom to persecute.

    1. Pretty much – depressing, isn’t it?

  7. African leaders have the right to protect their culture and their democracy.

    1. And when they finally get one of each they are welcome to do it. They don’t have the right to keep the people in poverty, starvation, ignorance, war and the 12 Century which is what a many of them like to do in Africa.

    2. On past behaviour by colonising and killing the locals evidently. Look up the history.

      1. The past is the past, they are entirely responsible for their actions in the present. They needed no lessons from anyone in murder.

        1. I was replying to Ayee, who’s remarks are ironic if you look at the history of Liberia. Their culture is American.

    3. They should also have the duty to protect the rights of all their citizens, regardless of spurious concepts about their ‘culture’.

      (You might want to enlighten us, ayee, of the extent to which democracy is part of ‘African culture’.)

    4. What culture?

      Most of you are liars and theives. A Ugandan friend is watching the mabira forest being sold off to fund the presidents lifestyle. Your culture is based on missonary teachings but you are to stupid to realise it. I would always have defended African nations until recently.
      The Africans in London seem to have found their anti gay voice recently thinking they have found a group to persecute.

      You can all go to hell

    5. Jock S. Trap 12 Jan 2012, 11:53am

      “African leaders have the right to protect their culture and their democracy”

      And every human being has the right to be treated with respect and without prejudice and discrimination. A choosen religious lifestyle should never trumph over how others are born.

      It’s shameful.

      1. Absolutely, Jock

        Its seems very odd to me that some Africans seem determined to think that democracy can exclude rights from one group of society …

        It also seems a shame that some Africans are blind to their culture prior to colonisation – which was much more supportive and accepting of homosexuality …

  8. As his tenure is only till this month, it seems a pretty empty threat.

  9. GingerlyColors 12 Jan 2012, 6:38am

    At first Liberia sounds like your typical African country (yawn) but what makes the whole thing more dispicable is that the country was supposed to have been founded by freed slaves returning from the cotton fields of America. Not only are they quite happy to clear out the indigenous population they disregard gay rights as well.

  10. Jock S. Trap 12 Jan 2012, 11:52am

    It’s totally immoral not to have basic human rights in a country. That included sexual orientation and people against should be ashamed at the way they clearly treat humanity with such discrimination and disrespect.

    We all know these people wouldn’t stand for it against them for whatever reason so what makles them so at ease to make others pay for their own hatred?

  11. Sad to see such ignorance in the world today in a country where millions die of AIDS all the time now just because they can not learn how to do something to save their lives and come out of the dark ages. Who are the people who keep these people down and ignorant for so long while they all suffer?

  12. Nameo Obum 13 Jan 2012, 2:00am

    Africa will reserve the right to make its own laws according to its cultures and traditions. Africa will not take any lecture from any Imperialist coloniser who looted and enslaved our ancestors. That said, it will be unlawful to stop anyone who feels they are gay from leaving the continent to settle in Cameron’s England or Obama’s USA.

    1. I like how you claim to speak on behalf of “Africa”. Well if you hate the “imperialist coloniser” so much, let’s see how well you manage your economy without our (and yes, I use “our”, following on from your us-and-them mentality) aid programme. Because “Africa” has done a great job managing its economy and treating its fellow Africans like human beings.

      So if you want OUR money, you better sit down and take our imperialist coloniser lecture about treating LGBT Africans equally.

      So endeth the lecture.

    2. Oh and since you mentioned slavery, the white coloniser wouldn’t have been able to enslave Africans if it wasn’t for African slave traders themselves who had been trading long before (and long after to this day) the whites disembarked.

  13. Do not be like the saddend hooman with worry in his chest hole.

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