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Dear Margaret,
Marriage rights are not yours to give or to deny. You are not God. You are simply a *former* tennis player.
Actually, rights are not God’s to give or withhold, either. Anyone who says God has rights over us as our creator thereby appeals to some framework of rights over and above God.
Paul Brownsey
She may actually believe she doesn’t hate gay people. But it’s pretty clear that she doesn’t respect gay people.
Indeed. More about what we do in bed but who is she to take the moral highground when all she can think about is what people do in bed?
Like it’s a choice to be ugly or a bigot?
Actually, she HAS “chosen” to be an ignorant bigot.
Exactly.
Apparently, homosexuality was a “choice” for Margaret Court. Yes, we can all “choose” to live a lie, but that doesn’t make life more noble (or indeed liveable). Opposers of gay rights need to be careful about what constantly fetishising gay sex actually says about THEM. Obsession suggests a vested interest in the subject matter, and nobody has just a “passing interest” in sex.
Exactly! Well said, Paolo! Margaret Court should be examining her own issues not transfering onto others.
What is the choice she is referring to? Surely she’s not stupid or ignorant enough to think that people can choose their sexuality and if she really thinks that then her opinion is worthless. But if she thinks the choice is whether gay people should be celibate or allow themselves to be loved and share in fulfilling loving relationships then she is a sick and evil person to expect people to deny themselves love and to live a life of loneliness.
So she lusts after women, but has “chosen” not to “give in”.
I get it…
chrissie
xx
My thought exactly – just because she appears to be admitting she’s ‘chosen’ to be non-gay doesn’t mean everyone’s in the same boat.
So Margaret lurches from one ignorant soundbite to the next. I bet some of her best friends are gay!
If it’s a choice, why do some gay people spend years in denial rather than simply ‘choosing’ to be straight?
If you glance at a Calvin Kein poster campaign and feel something in your loins that you don’t get from the girl in the wonderbra ad then it’s pretty fair to say that any choice is out of your hands.
You do have the choice whether to just accept it or spend the rest of your years driving yourself neurotic in the closet, but that Calvin Klein model in the poster will still look as attractive as he ever did, whatever George Rekers might have claimed before holidaying with a gigolo he hired to lift his luggage.
So can one assume she actively chose to be straight?
Amazing that people like her believe that “God” created us? Really? Last time i checked, my parents were responsible for that. Science has proved we originated long before the Adam & Eve fairy tale. These religious nutters will come up with the most absurd excuses when they are questioned about their own straight sexual orientation. I’m surprised nobody who is on authority on sexual orientation hasn’t challenged these idiots to provide the documentary evidence to support their claims. If what she says is true, why have there been no controlled studies published in the legitimate scientific and medical journals? The day she can prove a heterosexual can be converted to a homosexual, then maybe I’ll believe her.
brilliant x
Another confused bigot taking refuge from their own insecurities by picking on other people. Sad – and also utterly transparent.
How many straight women of her age spend ANY time obsessing over gay sex? Yet it’s apparently on poor Margaret’s mind a lot, with its siren call – a call that she has to choose to ignore, it seems. That’s the implication of what she said.
Exactly as you say, it’s so obvious and it’s not only pathetic but she is also attempting to ruin other people’s lives by spreading misinformation which is the unforgivable thing.
Why doesn’t this silly woman read some books based on legitimate, peer reviewed research before mouthing off?
It’s kind of sad, don’t you think? OK, so her denial of her true self leads her to project feelings of self-disgust onto others (i.e. us) but I’d rather be hated by some and loved by some for being my true self than to live a lie. I feel lucky by comparison.
I genuinely feel quite sorry for her.
What a very generous view, Sarah – I wish she deserved such understanding and kindness.
I was torn between feeling sorry for her (largely because I’m assuming things were harder for someone coming to terms with their sexuality whens he was younger) and feeling angry with her for taking out her bitterness on others.
It’d have been better if she’d said nothing, I think, and what did it for me was the specific comment about marriage rights not being ours to take. That was uncalled for, pompous and too much, as far as I’m concerned, so that greatly reduced my sympathy for her.
The only choice that LGBT people have is whether or not to hide their sexuality.
Margaret Court is an ignorant and uninformed anti-gay lunatic spreading the usual misinformation that we know is nonsense.
A dreary, inadequate, tyrannical old bag completely drunk on religion…pathetic.
Sounds about right… another bible thumper.
You like her then?
I don’t hate her, I think her views about homosexuality are seriously misguided and ignorant sadly.
She is in thrall to a particular anti-gay interpretation of scripture that she thinks must apply to everyone else..
Margaret Court may spread whatever damaging and erroneous misinformation she wants about gay people but we can respond as well as speculate on why she is doing this.
She still cannot be serious!
It’s not you she’s mad at… it’s the dirt! (lol)
She is ashamed of her lesbian feelings and wants others to feel similarly ashamed.
Chalk dust perhaps?
Oh good, another ignorant famous person to add to the pile.
Silly woman should have stuck to talking about things she knows something about, such as tennis.
Dear Margaret, you weren’t born a religious loony. You really can help it. You are not compelled to believe in invisible spirits and magic books which justify your prejudices. You need to know that you really have a choice.
Ironically the Bible forbids women priests, teachers, or even speaking in public. That’s St Paul for you, the old misogynist.
Quite. In fact St Paul pretty much invented the supernatural entity known as ‘Christ’, which became the entire basis of Christianity, and would be quite incomprehensible to Jesus, who was basically an apocalyptic rabbi.
the only choice here is when she chose to exhibit her stupidity and homophobia
sexuality is not a choice
“I’m not a homophobe, I just hold the views of one. Yes, I know, it’s very confusing, isn’t it?”
At the end of the day we need the science…………we just need it ! The sooner there is DEFINITIVE unshakeable proof will make it easier for us………there will still always be a few loons who will say the proof was “faked” etc etc, but until we have the technology to readily identify that we do not choose who we are, we are at the mercy of people such as Margaret.
Such a misguided woman, it’s true what they say…….Never truly have idols, they may not live up to your expectations!
Even if we did have scientific evidence to prove that we are born gay
and this is presented to religious bigots, they’ll just ignore it because it disagrees with their babble. We have evidence to support the fact that the earth is older than 6000 years and that evolution accounts for life on earth, but not according to the religious loons – goddidit.
Agreed Angela. Most people choose what they want to believe, and its been well proven that “god’s will” is invariably the same as their own bigotry (funny that). And when you have a book with stories of a childish belligerent fool of a god validating every lunacy from incest to rape, from which to chose your “proof”, well, anything goes really.
Apparently some remedial reading lessons are in order…………*sigh*
For you or for the erudite Margaret, Drew?
Drew, its obvious Will was agreeing with you. I hope your comment wasn’t directed at him, that would be silly.
The nature versus nature debate is pretty irrelevant and has the danger of casting us in the role of victims who “just can’t help they way [they] are”. Although I don’t feel there was any choice made in my sexual orientation, had I chosen to be gay I defend my right to make that choice. More so in the face of ignorance and bigotry
Hell.
I dont see myself as a victim.
I relish it.
Not having to put up with female illogic is an added bonus.
Margaret Court is mentally ill. That is crystal clear.
However her bigotry is bringing the game of tennis into disrepute.
I think there needs to be pressure on the city of Melbourne to rename the Margaret Court Arena to a less controversial name.
How does one go about campaigning to have said Arena renamed.
If they leave the name as it is, then tennis will be stained by its linkage to insane homophobic extremism.
Sad old cow needs to be told that the buy-bull does not allow women to be ministers – her own bronze age drivel is slapping her in the face. As for choice? Hell, no. This is the way I was born, it is innate and immutable and I am perfectly fine with it. Let’s be honest, the only thing that makes being LGBT difficult is tedious bloody heteros who won’t mind their own bloody business.
Ahh Margaret it must have been a memorable day when you’chose’ to be straight….what day was that exactly????
The Margaret Court Arena is managed by the Melbourne and Olympics Parks.
You can contact them directly to urge them to rename the Arena (after all naming a sports arena after such a despicable bigot) brings the reputation of tennis, Melbourne and Australia into disrepute.
Contact them on enquiries@mopt.vic.gov.au
There are also two active petitions you can sign (I have posted links beliw) one to the All England Tennis Club to revoke her right to play at Wimbledon (which she has due to being a former champion) and one top the Australian Victorian government seeking them to review the name of the Margaret Court Stadium in Melbourne.
Both seem needlessly vindictive towards the old baggage.
I really believe that it’s wrong, to change the laws of a marriage between a man and a woman … I think they’re trying to make this “hate” thing — I guess to bring a righteousness, or a self-righteousness.”
1. Whether you believe woman was created out of a man’s rib or not, please someone point me to the place where God established rules for marriage; and
2. Self-rightouesness? She should know!
What smeans it is a choice to come out. One she didn’t make!
She needs to read what the Bible says about women preachers and shut her pie hole.
Unlike our orientation, she chose her religious “lifestyle”, all learned behaviour and conditioning. Nobody comes into this world religious either. Her belief system is a choice, sexual orientation isn’t. I bet this bible thumper believes in stoning women to death for adultery, condoned in the old testament, among many other ridiculous references.
Being a tennis player is a choice! Being a homophobic bigot is a choice!
Being gay is the way you’re made – not a choice! Geddit?
even if it were a matter of choice, what business is it of hers. however. fact is it’s not choice. and in the last 50 years of research, not once has choice been found as a factor in sexual orientation and identity. it’s arrant absurdity and insulting. who’s asking her. why does she choose to make ex cathedra dogmatic proclamations.
“but has added that young people “need to know it’s a choice”
Occam’s Razor:- you’re the idiot Margaret, and you need to know its not a choice, especially when million of gay men are telling you it isn’t.
Why do we even bother to listen to this ridiculous bint? She is not important, what she has to say is no more important than any other no mark who cares to speak their mind. Ignore her.
Notice it is always a religious nutter making these ridiculous claims. Even those fraudulent ex-gay ministries are all religious based, scam artists fleecing vulnerable people, often doing a lot of psychological harm. It’s about time the authorities on sexual orientation took these nutters down a peg or two and put them in their place once and for all.
Being a Christian Minister she has to hide her hate of homosexuals and pretend to like them when in fact she really wants to stop them from having sex or stone them to death. Oh the false face of Christians with their fake smiles like the one Margaret has in her picture here.
i know its not a choice, i knew i was gay from being a child, and i got brain washed by the church when i was older and became a devout born again christian, can you imagine how i fealt ? i prayed and prayed for god to forgive me and heal me, and guess what…hey im still gay ! i came out when i was 48, wish id have done it sooner, ITS NOT A CHOICE !!
God. It’s Widdecombe’s twin sister……
Please consider signing both these petitions
http://www.change.org/petitions/all-england-lawn-tennis-club-stand-up-to-the-homophobia-of-margaret-court
https://www.change.org/petitions/victorian-state-government-do-not-name-the-new-melbourne-tennis-stadium-after-margaret-court#
Obviously, she is a hypocrite. If she is a minister, she has overlooked the book of Timothy chapter 2 verse 12: “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.”
So STFU, Margaret Court, stupid cow.
Court obviously has never looked into the bibble in all her days – save for the good bits. And she is as ignorant as these god-suckers come! I mean, who on this earth would CHOOSE something that is mocked, hated, vilified and killed? Why don’t these knuckle-draggers get this point?! They are self-important voids suffering from mental health issues with no respect for anyone other than other self-important voids.
Court and her fellow religionists are making gay equality into a hate thing, not us. They have forgotten that the supposed saviour ‘died’ on the cross to forgive our sins and cancel the Jewish religion that they supposedly revile… which means, party!
She’s a MINISTER for crying out loud – and that’s defo not in God’s bibble-thingy! You are breaking god’s law – why can’t we!? Obviously the Christian Institute will be all over these comments like the proverbial flies on sh!t…
Madam, you were a great tennis player and had a wonderful career, don’t screw it all up by talking about things of which you know nothing. Stick to the gruntings on the tennis courts
Ignorance in her case is certainly a choice – but fancy airing it in public like that, the stupid bitch!
The respect I had for Margaret Court has greatly diminished after reading her comment that ‘homosexuality is a choice’. So is ignorance Margaret.
Go on then,tell young people it’s a choice and then show us one who “chose”.I’d like to know the defining moment.
Sure can’t recall mine.
Oy vey! This person should keep her mouth shut and quit embarrassing herself.
love the way that she has back tracked a bit…..on no, she never said she hated homosexuals, why she even has homosexuals in her church (very progressive of you my dear)…nothing to do with the back-lash you have generated with your silly comments in the first place. Typical response of a bully once they are challenged methinks.
She doesn’t hat gays – she just tells LIES.
The silly old trout still doesn’t get it, does she? One can chose to be a tennis player, one can chose to believe in the Bible (fundamentally or not) one can even chose a sexual partner or to remain celebate…but please listen once and for all, Margaret – ONE CANNOT CHOSE ONE’S SEXUAL ORIENTATION. The sooner you get this basic fact into your warped psyche you will realise the error of your ways
its interesting how believers become so convicted about their intepretation of biblical legalities, at the expense listening to one’s sincerity of heart, honoring one’s life experiences, acknowledging the fruit of the spirit in another’s life, a fellowship that 1johm1 calls all believers to with those in their lives.
all this when as believers we are no longer under the law.
are we spiritual beings who make spiritual decisions because of our cultural identies, or spiritual beings who make cultural decisions on our spiritual identity.
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
Check this out.
They are even re-writing their bibble to SPECIFICALLY hate gays.
http://www.eurweb.com/2012/01/new-niv-bible-with-revisions-on-homosexuality/
Christans are sick bar stewards
Was that hair cut a choice?
Sorry, Margaret who?
It’s only a choice to those who don’t understand humanity. I never choose who I am, I was born it. It’s pure ignorance to suggest otherwise or that only some are and others not.
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Prehaps she can help us understand what makes who we are a choice.;
her internalized and expressed homophobia leave much in question. I would ask her if it was a choice for her to look the way she does..I know it is a choice for her to behave and have the opinions she does…Homosexuality is NOT a choice, my dear Maggie..the same as your features are not…we are born who we are..the way we are…in God’s likeness…each and everyone of us unique in his eyes..and a child of God. Madam Maggie..read your bible w/out prejudice…you are not a minister my dear..merely a leader of sheep…