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Jamaican elections end tonight as minister says gays “threatened his life”

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  1. does anyone else know anyone in this gay mafia that seems to exist? or is it only in the minds of these corrupt loony toons?

    1. Miguel Sanchez 29 Dec 2011, 2:31pm

      Who knows what’s going through their minds

      1. Rashid Karapiet 29 Dec 2011, 4:07pm

        One day bigots like this Vaz person will come to realise that the louder they yell their hatred of homosexuality, the more they have to hide – this is mainstream psychology. Perhaps in a society as sickeningly violent as Jamaica’s, psychology of any kind is for queers and batty boys.

        1. My country is pretty homophobic but try not lump our more moronic citizens in with the rest of us.

      2. Mr. Ripley's Asscrack 29 Dec 2011, 5:01pm

        Who knows if they have a mind at all.

    2. I don’t know they look pretty dangerous to me! J/k
      http://www.thegaymafia.net/

  2. If there is a gay mafia, who’s the Godfather!?!

    1. Officer Dribble 29 Dec 2011, 5:21pm

      Sir Elton silly…did you not see that episode of ‘Will & Grace’.

  3. In the first place, I would say that Vaz’s telephone number would be unlisted.

    And he doesn’t say that the death threats have been recorded, so how could he prove anything? …er…publicity stunt…

    Wouldn’t the world be turned upside down if every political party were to reveal the price it pays for its financial support?

  4. Rashid Karapiet 29 Dec 2011, 4:02pm

    One day bigots like this Vaz peerson will come to realise that the louder they yell their hatred of hmosexuality, the more they have to hide – this is mainstream psychology. Perhaps in a society as irrationally violent as Jamaica’s psychology of any kind is for queers and batty boys.

    1. Your comment is confusing, Rashid.

      What do you mean when you say that Vaz is a bigot but that psychology …is for queers and batty boys?

      It seems to be a contradiction, that’s all.

  5. Once it was the ‘International Jew’, now it’s the ‘International Gay Community’.

    I wonder why the dreg-level lowness of this sort of scapegoating still has the power to surprise?

  6. Homophobic Prime Minister Holness has a serious mental problem along with a percentage of the people in Jamaica who kill and attack LGBT people and innocent Human Rights people who want to expose the insanity in Jamaica. What crimes are they hiding from the world that they do not want people to know?

  7. Staircase2 29 Dec 2011, 5:05pm

    The bloody idiot!
    When are Jamaican Politicians going to grow up and get their brains out?
    Well done Portia for standing up and telling the truth – about bloody time that someone in Jamaica stood up to the reactionary, post colonial bollocks and used their brain instead of their bigotry…

  8. Mr. Ripley's Asscrack 29 Dec 2011, 5:34pm

    FFS! Jamaica enjoys a good economy but mentally they are stuck in the dark-ages with no hope of ever having a true, enlightened moment. It seems that wherever the christian missionaries went in days of yore, intelligence is banished ever after.

    I would only visit this corrupt, uncultured hovel with a plane loaded with napalm. Perhaps the international gay community would like to fund me in my endeavour?! Disclaimer: just in case any Jamaicans happen by, this is called (attempted) humour. I do not have or know how to make, napalm; or have any intention to visit your backwater island; or even to know this international gay community you seem to claim to know is working with the PNP…

    Stupid, stupid, stupid people – and with machetes no less!

    1. Your statement implies because I’m Jamaican i can’t be gay or if I am a homophobic closet case. And I also resent the backwater and machete comments

      1. Mr. Ripley's Asscrack 29 Dec 2011, 10:16pm

        Resent away, Donald, my good man. I was just fed up reading that another country is going the way of the toilet! I was implying no such thing about your sexuality and you are perfectly entitled to be a homophobic closet case (weird)!! Be gay and proud and welcome to the International Gay Community (TM), this is a place where we enjoy fair comment without fear of intimidation or death by machete.

        As I disclaimed above, it was a joke – a bit like your election debate it seems – where, in a schoolboy smutty way, the mere mention of homosexuality means that you have a secret agenda controlled by the Gays… Very mature debating. Doesn’t sound at all homophobic or tolerant, does it!? Hang on, I’ll just get my passport and be on the next plane over!

        1. your butter knife sharp wit is wasted here

  9. Surely we must celebrate the fact that jamaicans are finally accepting that gay people have human rights. The most homophobic country on earth is changing.

    1. David Myers 30 Dec 2011, 7:09am

      Starting to accept that gay people have human rights – some of them. But they have a long way to go yet. I’ll be impressed is the candidate espousing human rights for all wins!

      1. Never good enough for some you miserable prick

        1. James!

          Whilst it is welcome that some LGBT rights are being considered in Jamaica – it is not enough …

          I am sure you want full equality there too …

          The same argument of “Never good enough ..” can be used against the UK government approach to equal marriage … there has been a step by step approach CPs, religious CPs, consultations and equal civil marriage next … but it was never the goal to start in the step by step approach … I accept that Jamaica needs to react and respond reasonably and some of this may include step by step gains in rights (and education to amend some cultural issues) but that will not stop me pressing for more LGBT rights across the Caribbean

          1. Yes its not enough but remember it took 42 years, to get where we are today dint expect Jamaica to change immediately and appreciate what they have done so far without question I get really annoyed by t he queens who say its not enough its never enough for those idiots

          2. @James!

            I agree it has taken 42 years (and arguably more) to get where we are in the UK (and we still have improvements that we can make!) …

            So expecting a transformation of Jamaica overnight into some sort of demonstration of true equality is unrealistic …

            Of course, we must welcome changes – we also must encourage more … we must never be satisfied until we are all treated fairly, honestly and reasonably …

          3. Oh come on your stating the obvious just enjoy this moment and remember the world is watching.

          4. @James!

            It seems very odd that you are the one saying “lets just celebrate the moment …”

            Normally you are the one claiming that things arent happening, happening too slowly or that bigotry needs confronting more … where I welcome improvements and see it as part of a process …

            Here, I DO *STRONGLY* welcome the apparent improvements in Jamaica and celebrate this appears to be happening …

            The fact I celebrate this means I am even more motivated to urge the government not to leave their progress here but to ensure it becomes real and develops further …

            That does not dilute my celebration of improvements

          5. Bigotry on an educated society is unacceptable. Jamaica has a few more years before we can compare

          6. @James!

            Would you like to make what you said a little clearer … you were somewhat vague, unusual for you …

          7. jamaicans are not the most educated people on earth with the most churches on earth. E can expect some residue bigotry. We live in a society where we should know better

      2. “I’ll be impressed is the candidate espousing human rights for all wins!”

        She did win, by a landslide!
        http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/12/30/uk-jamaica-election-idUKTRE7BT01Z20111230

        1. Woohoo

  10. “Nothing optional—from homosexuality to adultery—is ever made punishable unless those who do the prohibiting (and exact the fierce punishments) have a repressed desire to participate. As Shakespeare put it in King Lear, the policeman who lashes the whore has a hot need to use her for the very offense for which he plies the lash.”
    ― Christopher Hitchens, God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything

  11. As far as I know the term “mafia” has never been used with regard to organised religion. But what a fitting epithet it is, and how they must yearn for the days when they could terrify all and sundry with tales of hell fire and dammnation.
    The ongoing pretence of ever so humble niceness must be a great strain for so many of them.

    1. David Myers 30 Dec 2011, 7:12am

      You’ve never heard of the expression “the Vatican Mafia” or “the Catholic Mafia”?

      1. No I haven’t, but it sounds very appropriate.

  12. johnny33308 29 Dec 2011, 6:53pm

    Do any of us need further proof of the hatred and bigotry alive in the Caribbean? Do not spend money in the Caribbean, do not buy Caribbean products. I have never heard anyone in our community ever threaten anyone, and I believe that this statement by a Jamaican minister is a lie to get more votes and to incite more violence against the LGBTQ community. How utterly shameful….

    1. I’ve heard gay people make racist comments. We’re not above bigotry ourselves – we’re as diverse a community (in terms of our politics and prejudices) as any other. Shame cos you’d think that minority groups would be sensitive to oppression and avoid discrimination…

      1. Mr. Ripley's Asscrack 30 Dec 2011, 3:55pm

        Oh come on, I doubt if the odd comment here and there (without thinking) is being oppressive or threatening or discriminatory to a minority!

  13. Janet Lameck 29 Dec 2011, 7:24pm

    I think he sent the note to himself!

  14. I think because a lot of Jamaicans are still backwards thinking like my parents so politicians still need to appeal to them. Unlike a 2nd term American president that doesn’t have to cater to anybody. Jamaican Prime Ministers can be elected an infinite amount of times so they have to constantly cater to what they see as the majority.

    1. Yea, with the Internet now, the younger generations have new opportunities and so much more information at their fingertips.

      The global trend is towards international human rights now, and I hope the general Jamaican population will come to realize that everyone has rights, and that gay rights are human rights.

  15. Suddenly Last Bummer 30 Dec 2011, 1:02am

    He almost choked to death on a c0ck?

  16. To be honest I’m starting to wonder if you’ve actually seen the debate. The homophobia question took up a very short few minutes. And to be honest i was comforted by the fact that one side backed us and the other had to be evasive. In other words he didn’t or at least thought he couldn’t be blatantly homophobic like his predecessor. It might not be much but its lot for Jamaica.

    And to be fair how much time do you think a head of state debate to spend on gay issues.

    1. When the law prohibits homosexuality and indirectly encourages the abuse and murder of LGBT people, I’d say the topic requires much more than a few minutes.

    2. Mr. Ripley's Asscrack 30 Dec 2011, 4:11pm

      How much time do they need to take? How much time does it take?!

      If you are claiming here that you are a gay Jamaican and not the ‘homophobic closet case’, then let your new head of state take all the time she needs to take to debate human rights and gay rights and quash the opinion of Jamaica held here and make your country fit for the 21st century – you deserve it, your country deserves it. It’s not much of a democracy if it goes without debate at all, or is countered by the argument that the International Gay Community is financing such comments.

  17. Holnes be smokin too much ganja.

  18. GingerlyColors 30 Dec 2011, 7:24am

    While Britain seems to be drifting away from Europe, it looks like that Jamaica is drifting towards Africa.
    Recently a poll of Jamaicans suggested that the majority there wanted to be governed directly from Britain rather than put up with their own corrupt government. Does that mean that they will accept legal homosexuality, gays in the armed forces and Civil Partnerships (soon to be marriages)?
    NOT A FAT CAT IN HELL’S CHANCE!!!

    1. Where’s your proof?

      1. Interesting article that I think many of you might be interested in and addresses LGBT issues in Jamaica and Jamaica’s increasingly close relations to certain African states:

        http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/Anti-gay-Taliban-and-Xmas-in-Barbados_10467208

        1. Interesting? That was unreadable babble

          1. I had to persevere at it I admit, but nonetheless found it interesting when I showed some effort …

      2. GingerlyColors 31 Dec 2011, 12:07am

        James! The opinion poll I refered to was a small article I read in a newspaper several months ago and was not major news. It suggested that the people in Jamaica were fed up of corruption, high crime rate and general lack of government there and would rather have something more like what we’ve got.

    2. Staircase2 1 Jan 2012, 3:57am

      Really?
      I find that very hard to believe given how much enormous influence culturally America now has over Jamaica Versus traditional British influence (which is now very much on the wane)

  19. Nice to see them lose the election

  20. bobbleobble 30 Dec 2011, 11:10am

    Initial results show that Holness and his party were given a real kicking in the election. Now let’s see if Ms Simpson-Miller meant what she said.

  21. Andy Olsen 30 Dec 2011, 3:52pm

    My wife and I returned from Jamaica the day before the election. We did not realize prior that Jamaica criminalizes private, consensual, gay sex. We would not have given them our tourism business if we knew.

    The fact that we did not know must mean this international gay political machine pointed out by the JLP is doing a bad job of getting the word out.

    I wish the new leader well but we need to stick to principles and I, for one, will not spend my savings in a country so unjust.

    1. Q you should never be proud of you ignorancee. only a faking self absorbed dockhead wouldn’t know

    2. @Andy

      Thank you for recognising the importance of human rights.

      Jamaica has been highly homophobic. Hopefully, this is the beginning of a process of rights being restored. I hope many others like yourself will continue to decline to go back (or for the first time) to Jamaica and give their economy tourist dollars until they demonstrate they respect human rights.

  22. David chukwuka 31 Dec 2011, 6:05am

    I’ve always not liked that country,now i know why.. A country where ganja not brain rules.. They are very welcomed to join the league of African homophobe nations… Go miller!

    1. Staircase2 1 Jan 2012, 4:02am

      I fully support the lack of support for Jamaican bigotry.
      What I do not support is this lazy link that people are making with Jamaica and ‘ganja’ (as if everyone in the country smokes it)
      LAZY LAZY LAZY – load of bollocks. (And racist)

      There are very many people on the Island who don’t do drugs – the issue is not drugs but homophobia remember?!
      The backward mentality towards Human Rights (and in this instance Gay Rights) owes more to historic British Colonialism, Slavery and right-wing Christian Missionary bigotry than it does to do with drugs…

  23. He should be so lucky

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