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Malaysia urged to repeal anti-gay law and abandon politician’s trial

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  1. All the educated bodies and NGOs in Malaysia support the repeal of 377, including the Bar Council (lawyers professional group).

    In the light of announcements made by certain countries and the UN, surely it’s time to see what can be done to support them by agencies of countries that support human rights for gay people.

  2. ‘Against the order of nature’? Science has conclusively proven that homosexuality is natural.

    1. Unfortunately science comes second to religion in some countries, to the extent there are increasingly numbers of Muslim medical students in the UK who refuse to believe in evolution. The chances of such people accepting unbiased research into homosexuality is remote indeed, alas.

      1. I wonder why they even go into fields of science anyway? Why not use their religion to answer all their problems.

        1. Jock S. Trap 2 Jan 2012, 8:39am

          Using religion is a typical excuse for a cop out clause.

      2. Jock S. Trap 2 Jan 2012, 8:38am

        True but science only comes second because people are too scared or simply unwilling to think for themselves.

    2. Jock S. Trap 2 Jan 2012, 8:37am

      Indeed Dromio but these people don’t want facts just an excuse to persecute by their own assumptions.

  3. GingerlyColors 23 Dec 2011, 2:00pm

    I wouldn’t treat Malaysia as a lost cause just yet – some Muslim majority countries have repealed their anti – gay laws in recent years. Some of the former Soviet countries such as Khazakstan and Azerbijan repealed the laws imposed by Stalin in 1934. And with repeal on the cards in Northern Cyprus there is no reason why Malaysia cannot toe the line. The International Community must turn oup the heat on Malaysia – we are not dealing with the likes of Robert Mugabe here.

    1. Which Muslim majority countries? If any did, they probably did it by omission in a new legal code, rather than via direct modification.

      1. GingerlyColors 24 Dec 2011, 6:25am

        As well as the ones I mentioned above, I would also like to refer to Tajikistan and Kyrgystan, also former Soviet countries that repealed Stalin’s anti-homosexuality laws as part of their new legal codes. Uzbekistan still holds onto it’s outdated laws and Turkmenistan who’s recently deceased president had a North Korean style personality cult is also stuck in the past. Another country where homosexuality is legal is Jordan, an Arab country although honour killings are a problem there. Mali, Chad and Niger do not decriminalize gay sex either nor does Albania and the newly independant Kosovo which are wholey in Europe.

        1. Commander Thor 24 Dec 2011, 7:37pm

          You mean “honour” murder.

          1. GingerlyColors 26 Dec 2011, 2:01pm

            Yes, I should have said murder and not killing.

    2. As for Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan, the reason is their joining the ECC and aspiration to be part of the CoE (of which Az is a member). Malaysia is joining no CoE soon…

      1. GingerlyColors 24 Dec 2011, 6:10am

        I’m not sure what the ECC is. Azerbijan had to decriminalize homosexuality as part of the criteria to join the Council of Europe. Their Christian neighbours, Armenia did not follow suit for several more years. This shows that the CoE is a good, positive organisation that achieves results unlike the EU and it’s moribund Euro. Maybe decriminalization of homosexuality should be a requirement of continuing membership of the British Commonwealth – only 11 out of 54 Commonwealth countries toe the line on that issue. Not only should this apply to Malaysia but also to the likes of Jamaica, Nigeria and Zimbabwe.

    3. Jock S. Trap 2 Jan 2012, 8:39am

      They still are few are fair and need to be seen making better progress.

  4. Father Ted 23 Dec 2011, 2:17pm

    The most populace Muslim nation in the world is Indonesia, it’s ginormous, and homosexuality has never been illegal.

  5. Just some more Muslim Terrorist who need to be given democracy.

    1. GingerlyColors 24 Dec 2011, 6:16am

      Not all terrorists are Muslim – 3,200 people died mostly at the hands of terrorists in Northern Ireland during the Troubles. While the IRA were Catholic, the Ulster Defence Association, Ulster Freedom Fighters and Ulster Volunteer Force were Protestant Christians. Muslims were not involved in the attrocities in Ireland.

      1. The vast majority of terrorists in Europe are left-wing or muslim. The only nationalist terrorists in Europe are those supported by the left. The others are animal rights terrorists – again, supported by the leftards.

        Feel free to browse through the previous years’ reports. And then feel the disgust at the left and the media that I feel.

        1. GingerlyColors 27 Dec 2011, 8:17am

          They do say that one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. As members of the world-wide fraternity of gay men and lesbians, I feel that we should take pride in the fact that we never had to resort to terror, murder, kidnapping, extortion or other criminal activities in spite of the fact that we have suffered persecution in the past and some countries continue to murder people like ourselves. Gerry Adams and Martin MacGuinees, what are YOUR excuses?

    2. Jock S. Trap 2 Jan 2012, 8:41am

      Forcing democracy can cause more problems and in some cases backfires. It took us 400 years to get some kind of democracy what makes you think these countries can do it in a month?

  6. Jock S. Trap 2 Jan 2012, 8:36am

    Dangerous claims in such a backward country. Why can’t they deal with the fact some people are born gay and just get on with life instead of persecuting?


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