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  1. Genuinely laughing at his video.

    That is the talk of a crazy man, but whatever, he has followers, whatever happens happens.

    1. As a gay Christian I am ashamed of this kind of behavior of people who call themselves Christians yet break all of God’s laws by not loving one another and also lying and not telling the truth about who they are and all of the harm the Christians have done to LGBT people around the world with their hate agenda to destroy gays and gay marriage and gay rights, which are human rights around the world.

      1. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:33pm

        Anyway he’s a heretic so who cares what he says.

      2. Robert, how can you claim he is breaking ‘god’s law?

        His ‘god’ is clearly a vile bigot, so he may in fact be obeying the laws of ‘god’ with his moronic statements.

        1. You just can’t help yourself can you, dAVID

          Have to have a kick at religion (even when the comment being made is a supportive one)

          1. Wow Stu. You reallly are an apologist for all kinds of stupidity.

            Don’t you think that Robert is being arrogant and weird for professing to know ‘god’s’ laws as he does in his post above? How does he know ‘god’ is about love (especially seeing as ‘god’ committed genocide by murdering every 1st born child of the Egyptians?) in the Moses fairytales?

            If you believe in ‘god’ then fine.

            But seeing as ‘god’ is an entity that has never been seen and cannot be proved, then how can you pretend that Robert’s nice ‘god’ is the true one.

            Rick Perry’s vicious, hateful ‘god’ may be the real ‘god’.

            I am merely pointing out that when people claim ‘God is love’ that they cannot know that. ‘God is hate’ is just as valid an opinion.

          2. @dAVID

            No, if I was an apologist then I would defend something controversial – what I am doing is challenging your attack on allies.

            I do not share Roberts faith, but I will fight for his right to believe in it … particularly when he is an ally of LGBT people …

            Attack Rick Perry all you like, his perception of God is clearly different from the view Robert takes …

            How I perceive you – you see the word religion, Christian, Muslim etc etc and its a red flag to the bull with you – regardless of whether the issue is relevant or not you will attack and attack with immense vitriol – it weakens your argument doing it all the time, particularly when not relevant to the post. It makes you sound deranged.

            As for me, if you look at my posts you will see that I regularly condemn and criticise some religions and some religious people … you seem to always overlook this though … strange that …

  2. Lets hope that China dumps its dollar reserves and oil gets traded in euro. These idiots are living in the last century and need a harsh lesson

    1. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:34pm

      Yes that’ll teach him! …pardon?

    2. GingerlyColors 9 Dec 2011, 7:32am

      Please lets not have oil traded in Euros! Just look at the state of the single currency! Why not trade it in Pounds Stirling instead, especially as we have loads of oil reserves of our own. It will also stop the price of petrol going up at our pumps due to currency fluctuations.

      1. Well anything but the dollar. The US need a reality check

  3. 3,105 likes, 132,283 dislikes

    LOL – think someone’s hacked it though considering there’s 4x as many people disliking it as have watched it!

    1. I’m hoping they’re voting for sanity!

    2. It’s a quirk of YouTube, the views don’t always update properly for some time after a video comes out.

  4. I’m glad he’s finally figured out that there’s something wrong with his country, though if he looked in the mirror he’d know what it was… there’s something badly wrong with a system where a dumbass bigot like himself could be presented as a credible presidential candidate.
    And last time I checked, kids are still free to celebrate Christmas across the pond. Who did he imagine was running the USA? The Grinch?

    1. The only thing scarier than the system is the potential candidates running for the office! (and the mentality of people who support their campaigns financially)

      Michelle Bachmann, Rich Santorum, Rick Perry.

      1. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:40pm

        People were just as appalled when Bush jnr got the nomination and thought it would lead to world war 3, but…oh hang on…

  5. What a moron. That crap may have worked 10 years ago, but now it just makes you look silly and infantile.

    1. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:41pm

      You mean like Bush jnr?

  6. Mumbo Jumbo 8 Dec 2011, 11:29am

    0 – gay in 8.7 seconds. A classic.

  7. Spiritbody 8 Dec 2011, 11:40am

    He doesnt say anything directly homophobic here cos he doesnt say that gays serving in the military is wrong. He’s saying that he feels the country has its priorities in the wrong order. That gays can serve BUT children cant celebrate Christmas. If he’d said gays can serve AND children cant celebrate Christmas, THAT would be indicating that he felt gays serving in the military was wrong.
    He’s still a dick though. lol. And since when are children in America not celebrating Christmas? Stupid statement. Id hazard a guess that they are.

    1. He is arguing that christian children get special rights in the secular education system to pray to their fictitious ‘god’.

      1. Agreed. Separation of Church & State! State Schools = No Church influence within them, and it should be the same with the government itself, but we know that will never happen. They’re all far too corrupted.

      2. No he’s arguing that they SHOULD get special rights- not that they do. Regardless, the man’s a tool

    2. Sam Maloney 8 Dec 2011, 4:43pm

      YES He IS– he’s listing ‘gays in the military’ as one of the things wrong with the country, one that needs fixing. So yes, he’s being homophobic, he’s just not blaming us *directly* for children not being able to celebrate christmas, but he’s mentioning us in the same breath and clearly intends the viewer to equate the two.

  8. At what point was America asked to make a choice of whether it preferred gay people to be able to serve openly in the military or have children be able to pray or celebrate Christmas at school?

    I know I am not American, but I do try to keep abreast of current affairs globally, and I would have thought I would have noticed that one …

    Of course gay people should be able to serve their country in their military without fear or prejudice … (well other than the fears any military staff member may encounter usually!) …

    Of course children should be able to celebrate Christmas …

    Of course, children should be made aware of prayer in school (as an educational issue i.e. some people believe that ….) … not sure praying in school is ideal – but I’m not going to condemn it …

    Linking children and gay people (particularly when using other powerful symbols such as the military and prayer) is and can only be an approach of bigotry

    1. Stu, Rick Perry is really manipulating his words when he says Children can’t celebrate Christmas. They can! (we know that!) he’s actually using a racial issue subliminally, because of the integration of people of different faiths into the school system, consequently to respect all individual faiths school prayers or morning prayer is not allowed. He’s not only attacking gay people, but being a racist bigot! he just can’t say what he implies

      1. Not true in fact.

        Perry (along with a huge percentage of Americans HATE atheists).

        They view the fact that prayers are disallowed in schools and public buildings as a conspiracy by atheists.

        A recent study showed that atheists are the least trusted group of people in the US – less trusted than even the gay or muslim community.

        Thankfully despite his best efforts atheism is also the fastest growing group of people in the US.

        1. dAVID to a point you are correct! despite it sounding like a contradiction there are Christian people who like him believe that because people of other faiths are not Christian, they don’t recognize or respect their beliefs and hence consider them to be atheists. No matter how we interpret it among us in this forum, make no mistake Rick Perry is using his bigot bat in every issue he discusses.

        2. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:45pm

          I would say that it is Because of people like him that others are coming out of the closet as atheists.

      2. @Steve

        Of course children can celebrate Christmas – and should be able to :-)

        It is interesting to look at the issues he seeks to contrast:
        Gay rights, the military, children, Christmas, Prayers

        All emotive topics which most people have a strong feeling about

        Its sad that he feels we have to (for example) between children and gay rights – they are not mutually exclusive …

    2. In American public schools (state funded schools) children aren’t allowed to have prayer services in compliance with the constitution’s separation of church and state clause where government “shall make no provision for the establishment of religion”. Faith didn’t make America strong, it was the hard working middle class and it’s former manufacturing base that has almost disappeared to China, India and elsehwere.

      Perry is an idiot much like the rest of the republican contenders for the White House. They all hate big government, yet this moron wants a federal ban on same-sex marriage (big government).

  9. Yeah, I mean it’s not like America was founded on enduring Enlightenment principles like freedom from persecution, equality before the law and the absolute separation of church and state or anything…

  10. This sort of mad rubbish seems to be totally ascendant in the GOP now.
    Disappointing though he’s been, I can’t see Obama losing next year. Be very afraid if he does.

    1. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:46pm

      The Republicans have no intention of winning in the current economic crisis.

  11. jamestoronto 8 Dec 2011, 12:01pm

    What an utterly stupid ad. Last time I checked kids — and adults — were celebrating Christmas quite well south of the border. What proof does he offer to back up such a ludicrous statement. None because it is simply not true. The vote count says it all.

  12. Katie-Kool eyes 8 Dec 2011, 12:17pm

    *sits infront of her laptop, flaberghasted*

    but xmas is STILL celebrated. Was there a vote or something with 2 choices?

    1) Allow homosexuals in the army
    2) Celebrate xmas.

    When they cancel muppets xmas carol, i’d believe him. Even if they did, i see no link from that to homosexuals serving in the army.

    Still, that was an amusing 30 seconds. I expect he’s going to claim that homosexuals are responsable for the downfall of the economy in his next vid.

    silly little man

    1. Katie… Yes he is an unbelievable silly man! He would be even sillier were he to use gays as reason for the down fall of economy, In a article on another blog ironically above his video is a different article which indicates since the introduction of gay marriage in the state of “Idaho” it has benefited directly from a 13 million dollar investment by the gay community. The article provides the financial and job growth statistics to substantiate the report.

  13. Is Rick Perry doing a John Wayne male impersonation or perhaps even more likely he’s channelling James Stewart?
    There’s a little bit of The Marlboro Man’s styling going on in there too.

    Liberal attacks? they certainly like to redefine meanings

    1. I had to do a double take to check it wasn’t a spoof on “The Colbert Report”. You know you’re in trouble when even the GOP parody looks sane by comparison

    2. Pavlos… look at it again don’t you see another homophobe in his image? if you were to say Ronald Reagan…

      1. Now you mention it I do, he’s seems like a sort of composite CGI and voiceover combo.

      2. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:50pm

        Reagan stopped a voter initiative to sack all gay teachers in California, so he wasn’t all bad.

        1. The Reagan presidency was just a blur! was that before or after he fired all the air traffic controllers? and had to replace them with military. Or when he was told there weren’t enough qualified teachers in training,? or the military not qualified to teach the children?

          While all this was going on it was a distraction from his denial that AIDS was becoming an epidemic and needed research funding. Meanwhile his destruction in social programs made so many thousands of people destitute. Tens – Hundreds of thousands of people who died in the USA of AIDS might have been alive today but for Reagan!

          He wasn’t all bad? Really?

  14. The alternative is to let gays only celebrate christmas and put children in the army?


    1. Ditto Stu’s comment!

    2. I can see we have it sorted

  15. The American Taliban (of which this insane monster Rick Perry is a member) is truly terrifying.

    Sadly this type of crazed extremism is regarded as pretty mainstreamn in the US.

    The US has a lot more in common with Iran than it likes to admit.

    1. @dAVID

      Organisations in the UK that have similar views to those expressed by Perry are (rightly) monitored by the police National Domestic Extremists Unit and the security services due to their potential to undermine democracy …

      1. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:52pm

        Good! I didn’t know that!

    2. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:53pm

      They are not terrifying. You give them too much credit. They’re incredibly stupid.

      1. George Bush Jr was an incredibly stupid christian. And when you are an incredibly stupid christian it generally means that your puppetmasters (Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld etc) are sinister and vile and start all sorts of horrible wars and cutbacks, and the Moron In Chief can pretend he’s doing god’s work.

  16. I’m quite glad that this nutter is bringing out ads like this, he’s currently polling at around 7% and after this it won’t get much better.

    Bachman is at about 3%, Santorum, around the same, Cain is out cos he can’t keep his pants on.

    The true irony is that the lead candidates are Mitt Romney, a Mormon who will never get the conservative vote anyway and Newt Gingrich who was booted out of Congress for ethics violations and fined $300,000.

    And in a poll some years ago only 9% of people polled wanted him to be president and 80% thought he was scary!

    Gingrich is also busy blaming poor people for being poor and just last week suggested that poor children could be employed to clean toilets in their schools. So much for “Compassionate Conservatism”

    1. As I’ve said already – the winner is irrelevant so long as he/she knows who he/she is answerable to.

      And who is that?

      Why corporate America of course.

      Why Americans are even discussing gay marriage as a serious issue when this is the 1st generation in US history where tthe new generation is poorer than the last generation, is beyond me.

      1. dAVID, whilst agree with you about the bosses of the Republican Party being Corporate America I can’t completely agree with that in the case of the Democrats.
        Whilst he’s been in power Mr Obama has signed the Employee Free Choice Act, established the Consumer Financial Protection Agency, signed the Lily Leadbetter Pay Deal to make companies pay women the same as men for doing the same job and with the help of Elizabeth Warren (currently seeking the Democratic Nomination to run for Senate in Massachusetts) he made the banks and car companies pay back all the money that was lent to them under TARP. In fact, TARP made a profit.
        So, Obama has done plenty to prove he and the Democrats are not under the thumb of big business in the same way as the Republicans.
        The majority of the money raised by Democratic contenders for elections come from small donations from individuals rather than the unaccountable Super-PACs favoured by the Republicans who are funded by millionaires and billionaires

        1. Yet in the richest country in the world, almost 1 in every 3 people either live in poverty or close to poverty.

          1 in every 6 people have no health insurance.

          A college graduate will leave college owing hundreds of thousands of dollars.

          1 in every 3 homes in the US is either in foreclosure or close to foreclosure.

          And in real terms average Americans are worse off today than they were 30 years ago.

          What fundamental, systemic changes is Obama introducing to narrow the income gap in the US?

          Why has not a single banker been charged with their terrible crimes?

          The US has the greatest disparity between the rich and the poor than any other developed country in the world.

          Obama and the Democrats and the lack of true democracy in the US are part of the problem.

          Obama made a lot of promises and engaged in a lot of empty rhetoric about ‘change’.

          He has been a crushing disappointment in bringing real change. The system is still rotten to the core.

    2. Kaz, both Romney and Gingrich in my view are unelectable. I think Obama will win a second term though not with any mandate this time. Who in their right mind could conceivably vote for any of the parade of clowns in the republican party. They’re all low information, intellectually challenged, non-thinking people who pander to the worst fear mongering more than in any other western society. In fact many of them, especially those in the Tea Party are voting against their own interests.

    3. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:55pm

      Would he make them work cleaning the toilets over Christmas? Perry may have an edge there.

  17. Is this a joke? this is getting me seriously depressed now.

  18. Rick Perry – the best ever advert for late term abortions.

    1. I bet his mother has already asked about the viability of 240 trimester terminations. I know I would if I were her.

      1. If I had known his mother when she was up the duff with him, I myself would have run the very hot bath for her, and supplied her with the litre of gin and the knitting needles.

        1. She was probably kerb crawling, you could just run her over. At least that way her “quality” genes are removed from hindering humanity :)

  19. Overwhelmingly negative ratings. Nice. :D

  20. It’s impossible to stop children praying in schools unless you are telepathic, surely? I think what he has in mind is adults making children pray together.

  21. HAHA!

    That literally sounded just like something straight out of South Park~

    That’s hilarious! xD

  22. Not just children. More and more people aren’t allowed to celebrate Christmas in the workplace either – or even have decorations.

    I don’t see how gay rights enters into it.

    Did he pick it from a hat or his he a closet homophobe?

    (Or is he just a closet – because this is laughable)

    1. Gay people are the enemy of religion it’s all written down in our little pink book.

      1. The “Gay Agenda for Dummies” was a lifesaver for me….

        1. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 6:02pm

          I never got past item no. 1, spend 2 hours in the gym daily.

          1. Yeah, well you’re no body these days unless you destroy over 50 “traditional marriages” by being in love with your same sex partner.

    2. Sam Maloney 8 Dec 2011, 7:32pm

      EVERY kid gets a big vacation at Christmas time. So do teachers and a lot of others. Sadly, many schools and businesses hate to use the word ‘Christmas’ these days, but that’s not at all the same as being denied the right to celebrate it.

  23. “I’m rick perry and I approve this message”

    Yes obviously, you are the one saying it. Everyone can see and hear you, it’s a video!?! It doesn’t mean what you’re saying has any more authority you absolute moron.

    Oh wait maybe it does let me try…

    Gay people in the military went back in time and killed the baby Jesus in a secret CIA time machine. They literally killed Christmas those b@stards! And they invented the Euro!!!!!!

    My name is Joss and I approve this message (so it must be true).

    1. “I’m rick perry and I approve this message”

      Yeah, to speak about ones own action in the third party is a sign of megalomania or insanity.

      1. Rick Perry 8 Dec 2011, 6:05pm


  24. Take the P from Perry and place before RICK.

  25. This is a very funny response to Perry’s message:

    1. A reassuring, intelligent and wickedly funny response – thank the bigot in the sky that not all Americans are bigoted Christian dum arses – thanks David

    2. Loved it, thanks for posting.

    3. Very witty

  26. Luckily, he’s currently got about as much chance of being elected President as I have.

    1. Rick Perry 8 Dec 2011, 6:09pm

      Can I keep the money?

  27. Janet Lameck 8 Dec 2011, 2:32pm

    What do you expect he’s a ruddy Republican! I agree, but hes not crazy he’s INSANE! Republicans are the main reason the United States is in the mess its in today.

    1. Rick Perry 8 Dec 2011, 6:11pm

      Or poor education, which amounts to the same thing.

  28. Failing economy, massive unemployment, more wars than the US can afford and what’s the main problem on Perry’s mind? That gays can serve in the military. What a moron. I just don’t understand how these people get voted into office. I am actually so happy that I live in the UK.

    1. The lack of a free press in the US is part of the problem.

      Oh the press is free in that you are allowed to print what you like.

      But thanks to detrgulation under Bush, we are now in a situation where an handful of of far-right billionaires control the media. Hence no news, criticial of the undemocratic system in place in the US ever gets published or broadcast.

      1. Gay rights, abortion rights and immigration serve as very useful wedge issues in the US as they allow the Democrats and Republicans to pretend there are substantive differences between the 2 parties.

        There are no major differences between the 2 parties in the US plutocracy (it is no longer accurate to call the US a democracy). Both parties are entirely in the pocket of big business.

        Whether or not gay people can get married serves as a useful debate to polarise the US population.

        Meanwhile for the 1st time in history the US population alive today is worse off than their parents were.

        I wish there was a free press in the US to discuss this, Sadly the media is owned by right-wing billionaires so instead we are treated to X-Factor and American Idol. For all its faults we are very lucky to have the BBC.

        1. “There are no major differences between the 2 parties in the US plutocracy”

          There are differences. Claims that there are no differences are propaganda to encourage people not to vote.

          People say there are no differences between the Tories and Labour, this is obvious BS.

          Similarities do not negate differences.

  29. “I’m Rick Perry and I approve this message.”

    …of course you do. It’s your message.

    Do presidential candidates say that sort of thing a lot?

    I think X, Y and Z. And I happen to agree with myself.

    1. Yes- it’s a typical end to an ad that is actually approved by the campaign- as opposed to one that supporters put up.

      1. The fact that it’s typical only makes it more ridiculous.

    2. Erika Cart-Horse QC 8 Dec 2011, 6:14pm

      He meant to say God.

  30. How can you “support individual states exercising their right to introduce same-sex marriage” AND “support a federal constitutional amendment to take that right away.” I’m not even going to touch the rest of the ‘stupid’ in this article.

    Does Rick Perry even realize his views are contradictory? That’s like me saying- yeah I support free speech but if given the chance I’ll support a constitutional amendment taking it away. He’s ignorant, short-sighted and irresponsible in his views.

    1. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:31pm

      The biggest shock is he can sometimes put together a full sentence.

    2. Erika Cart-Horse QC 8 Dec 2011, 6:19pm

      Didn’t Bachmann say exactly the same thing? Not too bright these people. At least our leaders are well educated, whichever party they’re from. They all went to Eton, Harrow an Oxbridge. In some countries a post grad degree is a requirement for a government position. America should maybe think in those terms.

      1. You don’t need to be educated to be a State Governor or Presidential candidate in USA! you will how ever benefit from being “a famous actor” Ronald Reagan! or Arnold Schwartzenager! or CEO of a a large frozen food conglomerate.etc etc! if you have money and a name you can run for president! Education might be an asset but it is low on the list if you have a name and fame it’s easier to become a politician when the box office marque is not paying that well.

        Regarding views that are contradictions… go to this link for Mechelle Bachmann! her dialogue with the public re her views on Federal VS State law and policy might give you a better understanding of how and why US politics religion aside are so conflicting.

  31. Pope John 21st 8 Dec 2011, 5:29pm

    If he’s a Christian, I’m the Pope.

    1. Well, Your Holiness, that is sort of the point. Christianity is so complicated and internally contradictory that that is why it has survived so long. It can appeal to almost any psychology. Science and the Enlightenment have put it on the back foot during the last 200 years, but it’s still alive and kicking.

  32. Hodge Podge 8 Dec 2011, 5:49pm


    Except people will believe him.

  33. Mr. Ripley's Asscrack 8 Dec 2011, 6:16pm

    “I’m Rick Perry and I approve this message”…! You just said it, of course you do. What a twerp! So gays in the military are taking christmas away from schoolkids? How does one statement equate to the other? That’s not ‘Strong’ that’s just absurd and weak, and is the frightened words of the unelectable. What a looney-tunes party.

  34. Uncle Sam 8 Dec 2011, 6:29pm

    It’s obvious the Republicans have no will to win this election, they just can’t handle the economic crisis. They are traditionally high spending (despite the rhetoric) while reducing taxes and so always leave a massive deficit, though the hole left by Bush left Reagan streets behind, though Clinton had repaired it.

    1. Uncle Sam 8 Dec 2011, 6:33pm

      I mean Reagan – massive deficit, cleared by Clinton, Bush – staggering deficit.

  35. paul millam 8 Dec 2011, 6:55pm

    An american who does not understand the distance put in the constitution of thr state and religion. Let alone the rights of those citizens to their rights and liberties!

    1. Brilliant! : D

  36. Stop the Hate 8 Dec 2011, 7:36pm

    Never mind Children and Christmas, these nutters like Perry and Bachmann are killing America’s children, whether they win the nomination or not, by making hate speech ok. Another youngster has just committed suicide. How many deaths before they realise what they’re doing?

  37. Wiping out the indigenous population, using black slaves in cotton fields, making and selling bombs, cheap labour from immigration and ww2 ex german and jewish scientists are what made america strong. Has nothing to do with christianity.

  38. You know, there is something wrong with the world, when people who are gay (gays as he calls us) are still openly abused for being born. Let us hope that the bastardised, hypocritical religion that preaches ‘peace on earth’ and ‘love thy neighbour’ continues to diminish until it is no longer a threat to anyone and makes your country tolerable again.

    My name is Paul, and I approved this message.

    Let’s just hope if you are ever in need of military aid somewhere mate that the potentially gay army recruit doesn’t know who you are.

  39. Robert Moore 9 Dec 2011, 2:39am

    Bravo for Rick Perry!!!

    1. Indeed – he has proven once again how moronic and inbred and just plain backward the US christian movement actually is.

      It’s cretins like Perry who are typical of US christianity.

  40. GingerlyColors 9 Dec 2011, 7:29am

    Another load of drivel from another boring American Christian fundalmentalist. For a start, most soldiers would rather serve along a gay soldier who can shoot straight than a straight one who misses his target. Secondly we are not stopping people praying in churches and children celebrating Christmas.

  41. I’d call him an asshole … but that’s grossly unfair to assholes which provide a useful function ………. this nasty small-minded hate-filled specimen of primordial slime provides no useful service at all!!!!

  42. Let’s see… according to Gallup, 67% of Americans support gays in the military, while only 6% of Rick Perry’s own party support him. I’m almost starting to feel embarrassed for the guy.

  43. There are so many comments so this may have been posted already but

    report the creep on youtube. Violates one of their rules:

    “We encourage free speech and defend everyone’s right to express unpopular points of view. But we don’t permit hate speech (speech which attacks or demeans a group based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, and sexual orientation/gender identity).”

  44. Even dummies are in on the spoofs!

  45. Spanner1960 11 Dec 2011, 9:36pm

    The biggest joke of them all is the music, is inspired by or directly taken from Aaron Copland, a gay composer.

    1. lol.. :D

  46. Rick Perry is right about one thing:

    You do not have to sit in a pew every Sunday to realize there’s something wrong with the USA.

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