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  1. Well done Malawi … please deliver a new set of laws which do not criminalise LGBT people and which ensure LGBT people have equal and fair rights …

    I hope this is one of the first examples of African nations (Rwanda has made some suggestions of a similar view) that begin to sit up and take notice of the needs of their LGBT citizens as encouraged by both the UN, other governments and multitudes of human rights organisations and not least, their own people …

    Well done Malawi, please make sure you deliver!

    1. Well, I just wish this really means they’re going to make their laws more tolerant and not the other way…

      1. Good point, but I think they are taking the hint, from the way it is reported.

    2. Dr Robin Guthrie 8 Dec 2011, 5:06pm

      I wonder if it anything to do with the “aid” being potentially cut?

      1. @Dr Guthrie

        Probably has at least some (if not all) to do with the aid cuts from the UK and US … and the potential for other nations to adopt this approach …

        Regardless of the motivation, lets encourage the decriminalisation and establishment of effective human rights in Malawi … lets not give them cause to become defensive while they are considering change and how that should be formulated but encourage them to do the right thing and be on the right side of history …

        1. Dr Robin Guthrie 8 Dec 2011, 8:18pm

          Appeasing corruption should not be a mandate for buying human rights.

          http://www.malawitoday.com/news/103768-corruption-malawi-getting-worse-says-transparency-international

          The path of good intentions and all that…..

          Its corrupt officials wanting the cash and human rights will NOT filter down through such a regime.

          Do not for 1 second think that it will make a jot of difference.

          The established religions will make sure of that.

          1. Dr Robin Guthrie 8 Dec 2011, 8:41pm

            I just noticed a WONGA.COM advert on these pages.

            I have a gay niece who is currently suicidal due to these 4000% loan sharks threatening methods and the cr@p she had to see with the abuse she saw on this board I really no longer see any justification in this rag other than for its own self purpose.

            Sickening in the extreme.

          2. @Dr Guthrie

            I strongly disapprove on Wonga.com and other pay day loans companies.

            I empathize with your neice (and your anxiety for her) … I hope her health improves and she is able to resolve her financial situation …

            I think pay day loan companies should face rigorous regulation …

            I do not think it is fair to berate PN for the actions of these types of loan companies, although I agree it is regrettable that they sell advertising to them …

  2. jamestoronto 8 Dec 2011, 5:10pm

    Decriminalising homosexual acts and ensuring gay rights are protected and guaranteed. Many countries — Turkey for example — that do not prosecute one for being gay have any number of means at their disposal to persecute with official or semi-official sanction. As they say “Actions speak louder than words”

    1. jamestoronto 8 Dec 2011, 5:14pm

      Oops first sentence didn’t get completed — continue with “do not necessarily go hand-in-hand.”

  3. I hope he means that he wants homosexuality decriminalised.

    It’s not clear from this article whether it means the laws will be relaxed, or made tougher.

  4. Interesting commentary on the developments from a media outlet in Malawi:

    http://www.nyasatimes.com/malawi/2011/12/08/malawi-to-review-gay-ban-bad-laws-justice-minister/

    1. Ssempa fidelis 8 Dec 2011, 6:46pm

      Strange choice of picture, and it dun look like a genuine kiss to me. Meant to shock I think.

    2. Thanks for the link, Stu.

      This article specifies the meaning of ‘public opinion’ here:

      “Mutharika, who had flown to Tanzania on Thursday, has been under fire from civil society and the nation at large including the donor community due to poor governance and human rights abuse by enacting draconian laws that glossily infringe on people’s freedom despite Malawi being a democratic country.”

      So yes…a sign of hope in Africa.

      Btw, I love the pic… :D

      1. Stop the Hate 8 Dec 2011, 7:42pm

        I think that should be “grossly infringe” :)

  5. I’m not sure how to interpret this headline, and the story does not clear up my question.

    Is the Malawian Justice Minister referring to national or international public opinion?

    It’s too soon to say.

  6. “Malawi Watch Executive Director Billy Banda said President Mutharika was reacting to demands which members of the civil society issued on July 20 petition.”

    —– African Review

  7. carrie baker 9 Dec 2011, 2:57am

    The highest reprimands for the rapping murdering presidents and false imprisonments against those who have committed no real assaults , They must be taken out and down like gadaffi and hussein, all mayors and governors , and officials must be fired, from their positions who violate the human rights of others and the lgbt families, this is crimes against humanity and hate hate crimes, also, the hand ful of racist bigots must be reprimanded that keep trying to cause a civil rights human rights honorale jugde for standing up for fairness and equality and human rights , which is what he was suppose to do in prop 8, all judges are suppose to be fair human rights instead of abusing their titles and positions and serving injustices, because of bigotry idiots, HEtersexual judges will have to be removed and fired for their injustices and unfairness, ;not the other way around , trying to fire good fair people , all people are suppose to be good and fair and human rights foundation,

  8. carrie baker 9 Dec 2011, 3:04am

    This Aclu and human rights organization must stop bad judges an courts from wasting time on bigots who keep trying to send bigotry down the pike line, and everyone can see, they just want to get rid of good people so they can keep abusing innocent citizens and their 14 admendment rights and constitutionsal rights and civil and human rights, actions must be taken against all human rights abusers, a person being gay or hetersexual has nothing to do with the fact that they are suppose to hold court proceedings being fair to the case not a gender or orientation, judge walker did the right fair thing , the lgbt people rights where and are bieng violated by racist and bigots and it must be correct in california and everywhere,.Most of the countries families are sick of These heterosexual bigots an the trouble they have caused this nationl they are a ;stinch of vile in our world , wars , kaos, murder rape, pedephilia, wife beaters, incestors, false prophetsl you name it, the hippocrits

  9. carrie baker 9 Dec 2011, 3:12am

    And they did the right thing by firing the trans official who, tried to buddy up to bad republicans and help hurt his or her own lgbt innocnent people trying to brown nose her or his self for selfiish reasons, Any time you have a gay person or a member of the lgbt group that take a part of enemies against human rights and the well being of innocent families out of their own personal selfish agenda, they to need be fired, lgbt officials must have a back ground in human rights, and equal rights , or they are no good for human rights nor their commuhity of lgbt positive fair acts nor womens rights and other fair human rights innitiatives, to many wicked people with dangerous evil personal agendas, that has nothing to do with humanity, its evil and its wrong,
    All foriegn govenments abusing human rights and united states human rights , must be taken down and out, with military actions, for crimes against humanity, this is the only thing the terrorist understands is serious action

  10. I love how ‘natural’ is used. Being gay doesent stop you being a living being. Whats more natural than love and emotion

    1. de Villiers 9 Dec 2011, 4:06pm

      The term ‘natural’ as used by religion is misused. It is that humans have a fundamental nature. This nature is given by a Creator, which is the standard by which we must live and be judged. Science supports it because science and truth cannot conflict.

      Therefore, according to such theory, an observant Christian who follows his nature will live the good life and will experience no conflict between their desire and their morality. These concepts dove together because the Creator does not make beings that are internally incoherent.

      What is natural, according to such theology, is not what is found in nature. A person born without an arm does not redefine the nature of a human or its purpose. It proves what is the nature of a person – which is to have two arms. It is the same with mental disabilities; they do not redefine humanity but stand as an exception.

      So when such a person uses the term “natural” they use it in a specific way, which we must understand in order to argue against it.

      1. Yes… the term ‘Nature’ as it is used in Xtianity is a philosophical notion, as if we are told what we are ‘a priori’. It reminds me of the way we are analyzed through our astrological sign just by our birth-date.

        Whereas in humanism, human nature is defined through scientific observation (clinical psychology), and one of the main characteristics of a human being is that he/she is perfectly capable of defining himself.

        It’s precisely because nature and societies have been studied in depth in the last 100 years that experts have concluded that same-sex bonding is found in every living species including humanity, so that it quite correct to say that homosexuality occurs naturally.

        1. de Villiers 10 Dec 2011, 6:05pm

          Yes

    2. I do hope your neighbors have restraining orders against you! With all these repressed thoughts and obsessions you blather! you sound like a perfect candidate for electronic monitoring! Children and animals don’t sound safe in your neighborhood!

      1. Just report him, the animal is a basket case.

    3. de Villiers 11 Dec 2011, 9:51pm

      Surely amoral where there is no realistic argument of choice? Where a person acts due to inherent circumstances, one cannot ascribe morality to such incidents?

      1. “Sounds like you have been reading too much Nietzsche”

        I doubt you now what your talking about here, you’re obviously unschooled.

        But more importantly, did you see all your comments disappear? Wasn’t that lovely? And you said I would be wrong hen I said your bile and filth would be wiped form this site…. silly Keith. Its item you realised people like me are vastly superior to people like you – its why I’m always right, and you’re always wrong.

        You were wrong too about the ex-gay “conversion” curing you, weren’t you? You’re mind is still obsessed with he gay stuff.

  11. GingerlyColors 9 Dec 2011, 7:20am

    Don’t write the whole continent of Africa off just yet.

  12. Who is this Carrie Baker person?

    And why does she pop up in random threads to write essays on entirely unrelated issues.

    Is she a troll. Or just a very naughty girl?

    1. She is both I imagine. She also appears to exhibit misandry most of the time. She never responds to any comments made to her posts, and has a fleeting acquaintance with punctuation.

  13. Commander Thor 11 Dec 2011, 10:14am

    Then it’s the Jews, Women and Blacks that should abide by the law of the land!

    (MISQUOTATION ALERT: THIS POST CONTAINS TROLL FEED.)

    1. Report.

      And watch it self-delete.

      1. No, thanks YOU for your pointless posts, I always find your futility most amusing indeed. You’re a like a clown, only mentally damaged.

  14. Money talks.

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