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Rick Santorum: “Equal” education about gay life “a hit to family and faith” in US

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  1. The world is realising it’s not acceptable to promote hatred of people because of their sexual orientation. Modern medical evidence shows that it is not a choice or a case of satanic possession.

    It’s about time these people caught up and stopped using their superstitions to attempt to subjugate those who are are not exactly like them.

    1. Hatred of gays isn’t going away any time soon, but opponents of basic rights for LGBT people are sounding more and more petty, nasty and ridiculous These people and their anti-gay prejudiced views are disappearing into the wrong side of history, they are losing because their views are wrong.

    2. Paddyswurds 13 Dec 2011, 6:01pm

      Isn’t it time there were laws to control such blatant hatred……??

  2. These people are so wilfully ignorant.

    Why are they so unwilling to look elsewhere where they have marriage equality?

    Has marriage equality been a ‘hit’ to other types of relationships (the traditional nuclear family in traditional marriage)?

    No, of course it hasn’t.

    These ignorants are a blight on society.

  3. I wonder how this idiot and Michelle B would feel if we took all the LGBT people out of the work force….armed forces, teachers, social workers, doctors, nurses, sales staff, business owners, counsellors, therapists, etc etc etc

    1. I think they’d quite like that though it would be almost as good as if we no longer existed but not quite.

      1. There should be commas in that sentence. Sorry.

    2. With so many folk out of work it would not be Rick S or Michelle B that would feel the worse for it. They would not be the ones going hungry.

  4. Mumbo Jumbo 7 Dec 2011, 11:16am

    As ever, this is a reminder to click here:

    http://spreadingsantorum.com/

    And keep this at the top of the Google search results for “santorum”.

    1. Thanks for that MJ. Saved me from posting it!

      Rick’s old ‘The sky is falling in’ argument doesn’t work any more.

      The sky didn’t fall in when women go the right to vote. It didn’t fall in when abortion was legalised, it didn’t fall in when slavery was abolished or the civil rights act or the equal pay act were passed. It hasn’t fallen in where gays have the right to join the military or get married and it won’t fall in throughout America when idiots like him catch up and realise we’re just people too.

      Until he realises that, please click on Mumbo’s link and pass it on. Every little helps :-)

  5. JIlted John 7 Dec 2011, 11:21am

    Join me for the chorus now…… Santorum is a moron……

  6. Teaching equality in school should be base of all knowledge let alone faith. We are one. One Love.

  7. The only people who have a virulent hatred of homosexuality are closet cases and the women married to them.

    The men think the best way to deflect any questions is to be so anti gay no one would think they are.

    It’s so simple and tiresome

    1. Not the ONLY people … but certainly some of them …

    2. And the only people whose skin crawls at the sight of a cockroach are cockroaches that have morphed into humans.
      Yeah, right!

  8. Disappointing that on a day when Obama and Hilary Clinton are taking further steps in developing LGBT supportive policies that blinkered and bigoted politicians in America seek to sustain and deepen prejudice and discrimination

  9. What striked me most is the quote: “I think you’re wrong, okay in fact you have to know you are wrong”.

    This says it all to me. I am fine with ‘I think you are wrong’ – it’s healthy..he owns what he thinks….But, when he says ‘You have to know that you’re wong’ – illuminates that he wants to control others into believing what he thinks…..that’s fascism!

    1. And it struck me aswell :)

      1. Paddyswurds 13 Dec 2011, 6:09pm

        What struck me most was the incoherence of his language…the man is an idiot!! ;-)

  10. It really is a different world across the pond isn’t it? Can anyone even imagine a political candidate in Britain or western Europe campaigning on the naked homophobic bigotry platform?

    1. Aspects of some of the Republican campaigns are so extreme that they are similar to some organisations that are subject to monitoring by the National Domestic Extremism Team and the security services …

    2. Don’t worry. He will not amount to anything. Satan is in control of the world until the second coming, and he won’t let any Christian have any power before then.

  11. douglas in canada 7 Dec 2011, 1:05pm

    So what else is legal, that they might be teaching in the schools?
    Divorce? Drinking? Smoking? Tax evasion [if you have a ‘good’ accountant and lawyer on your side]?

    Just because something is legal, that doesn’t mean it will be taught automatically.
    He’s just acting out of fear. Fear that his ideas may indeed be wrong, including the fear that his god may not really exist. They won’t say it, but if their god was such a big whoop-de-doo, that god would have taken care of things already, and not left it to the imbeciles who can’t even agree on what their holy book says.

  12. He clearly does not understand the difference in what constitutes a family. We are not all made the same way, so therefore are families are not all the same either. He does not see gay people as equal. He’s so narrow minded on this he’s blind! No wonder he needs spectacles! His words make him totally unfit for presidential office, in fact i doubt many companies would employ such a bigoted, right wing homophobe to wipe the floor!

  13. The old “they’re going to get to your kids” argument.

    I always love this old classic!

    1. Spanner1960 7 Dec 2011, 2:06pm

      “But think of the children!!”

      1. Well we can’t biologically have our own, so we must recruit theirs.

      2. I avoid thinking of children as much as possible. They are noisy, destructive, smelly, dirty, and cost a lot to maintain.

  14. jamestoronto 7 Dec 2011, 1:19pm

    More mutterings and sputterings from this moron. Would someone tell him that the train has left the station and he forgot to get on board. The fight for equality is being won slowly but surely; the likes of this idiot will not stop it.

  15. Why is it always that the ones who express concern about the children, are the ones who line up to hurt them. Homophobia and hatred is what hurts the children of LGBT families and causes harm – and he knows this because he would LOVE to start spreading his harm at the first opportunity. Oh. And with Santorum, keep in mind the four R’s of Republicanism – Rich, religious, racist, retarded. Two or more and you have yourself a republican.

  16. Well, they’ll learn it somewhere, why not at school. Is education not supposed to prepare them for life?

    Otherwise they end up like Keith, and that would make any mother cry.

    1. Spanner1960 7 Dec 2011, 2:08pm

      It’s a very good point actually.
      “Let’s not mention drugs, because drugs are wrong and illegal.”

      Ultimately, kids find out sooner or later anyway, so better to educate them properly than the crap they will hear behind the bike sheds, or God forbid, in church.

  17. Does this guy even understand what he’s saying? I think he seems a bit confused.

    1. jamestoronto 7 Dec 2011, 10:06pm

      Confused is a very polite way of putting it.

  18. How absolutely pathetic. The fact that these “candidates” care so much what people get up to in each others bedrooms is beyond me. You would never be able to devote so much of your campaign to homophobia and bigotry in the UK. Firstly because people don’t have time for that sort of thing and secondly the UK is evidently years ahead of the US culturally and politcally on social issues,

    1. Well said, Daniel and true. We are most definitely ahead of the U.S. No British politician would get away with this nonsense and wouldn’t be taken seriously, let alone get elected to high office. The republican party in the U.S.A., seems to be a breeding ground for them. It’s odd for a country which according to its constitution is supposed to have separation of church and state, whereas we in the UK have a state cult which does not influence the political process as much as it does in the U.S. America apparently has one of the highest if not highest percentage of worshippers and believers compared to most EU countries and elsewhere in the western world. Quite frightening in this day and age that some of their right wing religious groups are infiltrating western Europe and elsewhere in the hope of turning people against gays. This is where most of it is coming from.

      According to Wayne Besen of Truth Wins Out website, he quotes…”If the worldwide attacks on LGBT people seem deliberate and coordinated, it is because they very well may be. In author Jeff Sharlet’s book, The Family, he reveals that ambitious American evangelicals are working to surround The United States, Canada, and Western Europe with fundamentalist regimes – using homosexuality as a key wedge issue to gain power. Researchers Rachel Tabachnick and Bruce Wilson have also documented that a radical and sprawling evangelical group, The New Apostolic Reformation, has infiltrated many countries and exported anti-LGBT hate.

      The Foreign Office should be monitoring these foreign hate groups entering the UK and ban them altogether or kick them out as undesirables whose behaviour is not conducive to the British way of life and values.

  19. The horror, schools might have to teach an at risk group how to stay safe in health classes!

  20. Rick Santorum is a Christian Terrorist.

    1. No, Prick Santorum is just a muppet

  21. This numb nuts moron can’t even provide the factual evidence to substantiate his statements about us. In fact none of those right wing religious nutters can when challenged. They dismiss it or counter it with something to change the subject. Typical American far right conservatives, low information people with basically no intellectual grasp of anything of value or meaning.

  22. Nawal Husnoo 7 Dec 2011, 5:38pm

    [Gay Agenda, 4:40]
    Any argument based on “protect the children from homosexuality” will turn out, upon closer inspection, to be based on the personal arrogance of the homophobe making the claim, i.e. it interferes with his freedom to live in his fantasy world where he can safely pretend that gay people are mentally ill, sick, depraved, immoral or evil. He is unable to engage with the real world, where a gay person is every bit as good as any heterosexual.

    (http://www.gayagendabook.com/gayagenda.html#4_40)

  23. What a fu(ktard!
    My only regret is theres not a stronger word to describe him.

    No offense to anyone who objects to that word or is stupid enough to vote for dick sanitation

    1. soapbubblequeen 13 Dec 2011, 10:20pm

      I think that’s a brilliant adjective and will remember to use it!x

  24. Another straight guy who can’t seem to stop thinking about what gay people do in bed. Says it all.

    He can only think about us in terms of “sexual activity”. What a pathetic, nasty little man. Most of my friends are straight and not for a single moment do I think of them in terms of sexual activity. Can he not hear how hateful and bl**dy obsessed he sounds?

  25. Time for ‘Ricky’ to resign because he is going nowhere fast.
    Yet another woodwork dweller trying to get publicity. To be ignored.

  26. Methinks that someone is denial about his own sexuality, isn’t that quite often the case? Him and his breeder types are ruining the family values he sprouts on about with their high divorce rates. What a cock!

  27. I wonder if people like this ever consider the possibility that members of “families” may be gay or bisexual? Do they assume that LGBT people never were or never are also members of families?

    1. Ward and George in Hawaii 13 Dec 2011, 9:15pm

      OUR marriage is directly in the cross hairs of these dim and deluded folks and they display not the remotest diffidence in calling for the destruction of OUR family!

      Ward and George
      56 years together,
      And yet
      Strangers before the law!

  28. Marriage is under threat from gays ? No. Marriage is under threat by the actions of those who can participate in the institution. Its rather like blaming the demise of the local country club on those you won’t allow to join!

    1. Exactly. I once even heard a barmy clergyman claim that accepting homosexuality would increase adultery and divorce rates. Nothing to do with what married straight people do, apparently!

  29. This is such a glaring disparity and conflict of views and attitude, especially from a Presidential hopeful, delivered on the same day and in vast contrast to the eloquent powerful speech delivered to world leaders today by Hillary Clinton to the United Nations in Geneva.

    Such opposing views and “logic” on human rights and GLBT equality should be identified as a barrier to exclusion from seeking political office. If you don’t accept and represent all your people, you should represent none!

    Perhaps the student who was in debate with him has demonstrated he would be a more learned and worthy opponent to run for Presidential office against him.

  30. “And this man wants to be President?”
    The third item down in this link contains the video of Rick Santorum speaking against gay marriage family and faith.

    http://thinkprogress.org/tag/marriage-equality

  31. we are all different
    that is the richness of humankind
    religious hate and monotony is a killer

  32. Janet Lameck 8 Dec 2011, 2:37pm

    I’m gay and I’m a Christian!

    1. Unless you’re a Unitarian or suchlike, how on earth can you reconcile those two facts?

      Do you just pick and choose which bits you believe?

      1. PIcky-choosy bits for me: “the stuff in red.” Jesus-follower Christian. That sort.

      2. All believers pick and choose what they believe. If they didn’t the resulting incoherence would make them psychotic. A lot of them are already, of course.

    2. A “gay Christian” is like “military inteligence” or “planned spontaneity” – an oxymoron.

  33. Paddyswurds 13 Dec 2011, 5:59pm

    If this story is anything to go by the world should hold its collective breath…what sort of President a man who can’t string a coherent sentence together? Another idiot savant like Bush.

  34. soapbubblequeen 13 Dec 2011, 9:12pm

    Santorum should be (straight)jacketed in a sanitarium!

  35. Reading the comments here one can see who has two or more brain cells.
    Those with any intelligence say something intelligent (for either side of the arguement). Those with single digit IQ’s just call everyone else ‘idiots’ or ‘ignorants’.

  36. What is ‘Intolerance?
    Unwillingness or refusal to accept or respect contrary opinions or beliefs, to one’s own.

    What is a bigot?
    Someone who will not change his/her beliefs or views.

    Those are the true meanings of these words.

    In the world today they mean “Christians”,
    In the world today gays, lesbians and atheists can hold any views they wish and may not be contradicted, nor are they willing to change their views or beliefs. They will not respect Christians opinions or beliefs – yet it is the Christian who is intolerant and a bigot.
    And if they cannot think of anything constructive to say they call their opponent an idiot.
    Their attitude is – if you cannot respond intelligently, just become personal and abusive.

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