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140,000 Australians sign equal marriage petition amid “unstoppable momentum”

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  1. Nice one.

    The trouble is that Julia Gillard is a completely craven, political opportunist.

    She continues to support discrimination because she wants to keep the religious element of her party sweet.

    Hopefully she will develop some principles and some backbone and start supporting equality.

    1. Oh yes, calling people names will win them over. Always works so well.

      1. What names have I called her?

        I called her a craven, political opporunist who lacks principles or backbone.

        That is an accurate description of her.

        1. Accuracy is not the point. Winning them over is.

          1. Jock S. Trap 18 Dec 2011, 10:09am

            If the electorate want change she is the Australian people’s employee. It is her duty to listen and act accordingly. Not duck out with excuses.

      2. Jock S. Trap 18 Dec 2011, 10:07am

        Erm Eric… names?

  2. If labour changes its policy tomorrow to support marriage equality there will still be a sizeable minority in the party who do not support it.

    When the vote comes on same sex marriage legislation it will fail if these labour opponents aren’t whipped to vote on party lines. Sadly it looks as though it will be a conscience vote so the homophobes will win…

    1. Which is effectively telling the LGBT community that the Labour Party are discriminatory bigots who must not be voted for.

      1. Mike Homfray 2 Dec 2011, 3:04pm

        And so they should support the parties who look as if they will solidly oppose equality rather than the one which the vast majority of MP’s will support it? Labor is still the best bet – the issue is working to influence the hostile MP’s on that side. Most Labor MP’s WILL vote for eqiuality – that doesn’t make them bigots. If they lose their seats and are replaced by the Liberals (Conservatives) then how will that be better??
        And what about the Liberals? Some of our Conservative party support gay rights – aren’t there any social libertarians prepared to vote against the party line?

        1. Or they should support the Greens who DO support equality.

          Politicial opportunists like Gillard (and Obama) think to themselves that they can throw us under the bus repeatedly because they are the lesser of 2 evils when it comes to our rights.

          When they learn that bigotry has negative consequences for their prospects they willl change.

          Why is Gillard accommodating the vicious bigotry of the religious factions in her party when a clear majority of Australians support equality.

          Craven, political opportunism that is why!

          1. “When they learn that bigotry has negative consequences for their prospects they willl change. ”

            Well you haven’t changed, so that rather defeats your argument.

  3. And still Pink News has failed to mention the fact Queensland has passed same sex civil union law. While it may not seem that big to some, being from Queensland i can say that this is a huge deal as only a few years ago this kind of law would never of even been put forward for a vote

    1. “This week, the Queensland Parliament passed its Civil Partnership Bill, 47 votes to 40, which allows for officially-recognised relationships between gay couples. Queensland will join Tasmania, Australian Capital Territory, South Australia, Victoria and New South Wales in the list of territories and states which offer registered partnerships.”

    2. The Queensland bill was wonderful. It should be noted that the Liberal/National Party opposed the bill unanimously. This is in keeping with their long record of opposing almost every bill at both State and Federal level that tried to give basic human rights to gay people. They have never put forward any pro-gay legislation and held out against even legalisation for as long as they could. Gay people should never forget this.

      1. I genuinely don’t understand why the Australian right trails so far behind the UK right. Surely its younger members must be in much the same intellectual space as the UK younger Tories, for the vast majority of whom this is just isn’t an issue.

  4. If I’m honest I don’t know much about Gillard, the gay marriage issue in Australia or the general public opinion except for what I’ve read with interest on this site.

    I suspect as is the case with most political leaders that despite their personal beliefs they have to also play a game and keep their members sweet. After all, if they want to gain support for other issues they need everyone toeing the party line.

    Gillard is being a politician – nothing more, nothing less.

    I hope to see gay marriage going through all over the world. But I also understand that haranguaing and condemning those because they don’t instantly support gay marriage is a tad naive.

    At the end of the day the battle is being won, one day at a time. All we can do is present valid, well-reasoned arguments and ensure that the LGBT community has a full and equal future.

    1. And with all due resecpt dAVID you do an awful lot of screaming. I do agree with a lot of your points but to incessantly be on the attack does no-one any favours.

      No general has ever won a war without a good, rational and solid defence.

      1. All he does is vent his spleen. I don’t think he has an interest in making constructive suggestions.

        1. There are some aspects of contribution that dAVID makes which I do agree with. However, sometimes the level of his dogmatic rhetoric just detracts from any appreciation of anything constructive he has to say.

  5. What David and in fact PinkNews has failed to mention is that the vote on marriage equality is on a knife edge.
    Not for changing the platform. That is accepted it will be passed. The knife edge vote is on the conscience issue. There is a very good possibility that Gillard will get rolled and the party will vote to bind its members in Parliament to vote for Marriage Equality or be expelled from the party.

  6. Jock S. Trap 18 Dec 2011, 10:07am

    The trouble with bigots running countries is they seldom listen to the very people that vote for them or not, their voices matter. To ignore them would be a very foolish move indeed.

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