Well the investigation should require about 5 minutes. If there is a screenshot of the slur then it’s quite simple.
What I do NOT want to see is a fake-apology from Ospreys which says ‘We are sorry if YOU were offended’ – that is not an apology, it is merely shifting the blame for Philips alleged bigotry onto those who were offended.
Nor do I want to see some pathetic excuse along the lines of ‘Oh Mr Philips imaginary 3rd cousin, 4 times removed hacked his account. Sorreee’.
If the screenshot exists I want swift punishment.
The word ‘faggot’ needs to be regarded in the same manner as the ‘n’ word is, And any idiot who uses it needs to be reprimanded accordingly.
In a proper investigation, rather than a kangaroo court, there will be the opportunity for those seen as having committed an offence (be it against a disciplinary code at work or criminal) to have their say and give their defence or mitigation … Clearly they may also wish to seek advice from a union representative or legal representative … So, one would suspect a little longer than five minutes …although the preparation of the case may take a short amount of time …
5 minutes will be plenty.
As there is a screenshot of the slur then there is no dispute that the slur was published on his Twatter account.
Then the only question to be answered is – who published it.
If it was Philips then he needs to apologise and be suspended and/or fined,
If it was an imaginary friend/relative of Philips then Philips needs to apologise and be suspended and/or fined for ignoring his clubs social media code of conduct for allowing bigots access to his accounts.
These mentally challenged sportspeople need to learn pretty damned quickly that homophobia will be punished as harshly as racism.
For a proper process to occur, there needs to be a panel formed, case presented, interview or statement obtained, after the person who has been accused has the opportunity to seek advice. Then the opportunity of a hearing. Or at least this is the way that most organisations have worked when I have been involved in investigating complaints.
It is not in the interest of the employee if the hearing is a kangaroo court and process is not followed – regardless of how damning the evidence might be. Nor is it in the interest of other employees or the organisation to adopt a rough shod form of justice, it could lead to employment tribunal for abuse of process and lacking of fairness – which may lead to a finding against the employer regardless of the actual guilt. Natural justice needs to be seen to be done. There needs to be an acceptance of the system being fair and impartial and if it is perceived as overly quick and lacking consideration then confidence in the system will be lost.
Yes it’s frustrating but in the UK we still run by innocent until proven guilty system and a proper investigation should be held to determine who we should blame. Yes I know what it may look like but we have to be sure of the facts.
The main fact is that a homophobic slur was published on this guy’s account.
He owns that account. He is 100% responsible for what is on there.
And as there is a screenshot of what was published then the only discussion that needs to take place is the punishment he should face.
if he had called someone a n***** then there would not be this absurd ‘investigation’ – he would have been instantly suspended, pending the outcome of the investigation.
But as homophobia is a more socially acceptable form of bigotry it is not taken so seriously.
There might be an explanation that we can not see that he could present in a hearing and he should have the opportunity to have advice on the best course of action to take given the facts that have been presented and the facts he may or may not claim.
The journalistic story (and even the case) may appear clean cut – but there may be something more there and in a case with natural justice he should have the opportunity of raising this and having it considered. He may of course admit it …
Pfft, the guy writes like an imbecilic adolescent. If he uses Twitter and watches Big Brother enough to comment on its contestants he’s clearly as thick as sh1t.
For those who are calling him/them ‘mentally challenged’ or ‘imbecilic adolescent’ your a bunch of hypocrites! be careful he might find this offensive! we need to open an investigation surely lol
Except we are not professional sportspeople, who need to abide by a social media code of conduct ike this imbecilic adolescent is.
Different standards apply.
Whilst we need to exercise responsibility in freedom of speech (and failure to do so on PN results (sometimes) in action being taken – as Keith has encountered) … it is not the same level of duty as a professional sportsman who has both moral and occupational duty through their code of conduct to be measured and inoffensive in what they say/post etc
The guy’s obviously in the wrong, but Ospreys are a big business and there’s surely protocols that have to be adhered too. I wouldn’t go jumping down their throats just yet. The story isn’t even 24 hours old.
If they even think of issueing a fake apology along the lines of ‘We are sorry if you were offended’ then I think they deserve to have a massive backlash.
No one is suggesting they may make such an apology – and Ospreys have said clearly that they will not and do not tolerate any homophobia and are investigating it in line with their procedures … surely we want fairness? … if we dont want them to follow fair procedures they have in this case because we have already decided someones guilt, then how could we complain if they chose not to follow another procedure when we had a legitimate complaint against the club …
Why don’t you leave the poor lad alone.
This story just smacks of hysteria and PC madness.
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You stop asking what to do now about any verdict, if the verdict is won for equality and fairness like it should be be , you give thanks to those who helped do the right thing , you wipe your heads go take a nap and put back on your boxing gloves to move on to the next battle, if bad people and racist get in the way and cause delays or problems you keep fighting in that every place and area the battles and the courts until you tear down the evil from history shame and racism,s their wrongs, you must right them , your anthem and your message and your delivery must be humanity, equality, fairness, peace and harmony for all , stopping terrorism and harrassment which comes from only racist hetesexual trouble makers, you dont allow their hand full of brain damaged with evil groups to take a whole nation down the tubes like it has been, every one else would get along and be at peace , its the rascist keeping our nation at war and in trouble get the hell up and get rid of them
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Erm, you’ve lost me… this is Britain, love? Are you on the right news item?! This rugby guy used the word faggot to describe a straight bloke on Twatter… don’t think he’s pushing a hidden agenda for world domination! Governments usually keep ‘our’ (undisclosed) countries at war, so I think your [strange] posts would be enough cause the aforementioned braindeadness (sic)… think I’ll just sip my wine and worry about the state of your well-being. Chin.
She’s a troll.