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US lawmaker defends “special place in hell” comments on marriage ban vote

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  1. The inevitable fallout from from forcing gays to beg and scrape for their rights will be a cultural resentment so deep that the opposition will be tarnished forever. Republicans thinking their lot was somehow ‘disadvantaged’ by the banning of slavery will look back on the Civil Rights Movement as the good ol’ days. Basically, don’t f__k with the originators of popular culture and expect to be welcomed back to the trough with open arms. We are man, woman, black, and white. Both latent and blatant, and the ballot box – not to mention consumer power – will reflect this.

    1. Actually it was the republican party that banned slavery, you know Abraham Lincoln.

      1. jamestoronto 16 Nov 2011, 9:46pm

        Only after two years of civil war and only in areas not yet under the control of the Union forces. It was also a very different party then. The Republicans long ago abandoned their noble heritage and morphed themselves into what they are to–day.

        1. Two words: ron paul

        2. Ward and George in Hawaii 17 Nov 2011, 7:08pm

          Thus revealing that President
          Lincoln was a RINO!

    2. de Villiers 17 Nov 2011, 7:19am

      > will be a cultural resentment so deep that the opposition will be tarnished forever …

      Unfortunately, it looks like the Republicans are doing well.

      1. Jock S. Trap 17 Nov 2011, 8:28am

        mmm shame about that. Lets hope that stops.

  2. Another Hannah 16 Nov 2011, 6:04pm

    There is a special place in hell for those who judge others. Simplistic view, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions as they say (though I suspect personally that her intentions might just be selfish and not loving her neibour as herself myself……

    1. To “Another Hannah” – you think Jennifer Weiss is “judging others”? What do you think politicians who create laws telling people who they can and can’t marry are doing – holding a party for single gay men?

  3. Good for her for speaking out,……whatever her reasons….hidden or otherwise

  4. jamestoronto 16 Nov 2011, 9:48pm

    Good to hear that it is not just the Christian and other religious right that have exclusive say on sending people to hell.

    1. It makes no sense for non-Christians to say it though.

  5. More proof that Christians have gone crazy. They not only pretend to be gay to entrap real LGBTQ people but they are “infiltrating” the gay communities with non profit business that appear to be not Christian but in fact are. They will dodge answering the question if you ask them, if they are Christians and some even lie and say they are not. The reason they do this is to change the LGBT people and make them into Christians. Here is proof of fake abortion clinics, some are run by Catholics and have nothing to do with abortion, http://news.change.org/stories/spotted-fake-abortion-clinics-in-socal. Why are Christians and Catholics hiding the truth about who they are?

  6. Cambodia Guesthouse 17 Nov 2011, 3:31am

    More church-led loonies!

    It’s a slow process, but thankfully a dying breed!

  7. de Villiers 17 Nov 2011, 7:18am

    > will be a cultural resentment so deep that the opposition will be tarnished forever

    Unfortunately, it looks like the Republicans are doing well.

  8. To “Another Hannah” – you think Jennifer Weiss is “judging others”? What do you think politicians who create laws telling people who they can and can’t marry are doing – holding a party for single gay men?

  9. Jock S. Trap 17 Nov 2011, 8:21am

    Prime example of religion being used to justify them not being able to have personal opinions. Whether good or bad why do we as a community have to be dragged into it. Isn’t it enough we have such bigotted people in positions of power willing to damage us and society.
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    This whole thing is discriminating which ever way you look at it, I mean a public vote to ask how some in society can or cannot express their love and commitment? Seriously get over it.
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    Do they have the same vote for wars? No.
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    Do they vote for every human right whether for on womens rights or balcks rights? No.
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    So why this? It’s just so they can keep pigeon holing us and labelling to satisfy their own over inflated egos but here’s the thing… It’s because they take ‘advice’ by cherry piccking religious texts, not having the ability to actually use their brains for their own personal opnions. Still guess this way they can blame ‘God’ or whoever they fancy this month.

  10. It’s a shame she had to use religious terminology to express her feelings but her intentions were/are totally admirable.

  11. Only the one who does not love him/herself enough can hate, blame or shame someone else. Works both ways. If you want to bee free you can be. If more/all of us would live openly and freely as we wish, where that is possible and legal, we would be more accepted elsewhere. We are our own worst enemy. Come out and live. Love to all.

  12. ‘A special place in hell’ is a popular American expression (used it seems mostly by the non-religious!) with reference to anyone who is a source of annoyance or trouble. It was unfortunate that this legislator used the expression in the context of opposing people who often use it with deadly literal seriousness, but as a disgusted reaction to cynical hypocrisy it is entirely understandable.

    1. Robert White 17 Nov 2011, 8:50pm

      Actually it is a “popularized” reference to Dante’s Inferno and its organization of the various segments and natures of the rings of hell.

      While it may be an Americanism, it pivots on the idea that if there is a special place in heaven at god’s table, then there are also custom made spots in hell for particular offenses.

      It is _also_ a “you can F___ the hell right off and suffer” euphemism in a sort of past-perfect subjunctive mode.

      For all that we have a lot of religious types, the secular among us have found that it is easiest to speak to these people in their own language. Hence “burn in hell” and its ilk as a parting statement to a non-violent, but non-friendly exchange.

  13. Robert White 17 Nov 2011, 8:43pm

    She may be technically correct… Holding, or claiming, one opinion and then voting for another is a hypocrisy and possibly false witness. Pandering with comment or with your vote is ungodly politics. Unrepentant sin is serious. By catholic doctrine that’s a hell-ride. By new covenant doctrine that’s a “least place in heaven” offense.

    So “special place in hell” may be a literal pronouncement of doctrine.

    Of course my Xitianity is a little rusty since I woke up from that nightmare, so I could be unaware of some next generation “lying for the greater good” modality on which they are betting.

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