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Czech MP “puts porn on display” at city hall in bid to evict gay sauna

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  1. I don’t know what she’s making a fuss about. IF there is sex happening (lol) then it’s behind closed doors in a private venue between consenting adults. How is it harming her or anyone else. Even people who are offended by the idea wouldn’t even know about it if it wasn’t for Klasnova.

  2. just another religious busy-body sticking her nose into other people’s business.
    Surely these politicians have more important nd relevant things to do?

    1. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 2:26pm

      You’d think wouldn’t ya?!

  3. She also believes the property being rented to the company for less than its market value

    Sounds a bit like a personal vendetta to me – why else should she care what the rent is?

  4. de Villiers 16 Nov 2011, 1:24pm

    > men under the age of 23 get a discount.

    That sounds like the unlawful part – direct discrimination on the grounds of age!

    1. it’s only like a student discount. there’s enough bars which only allow people over 21 in.

    2. Its common place in the industry (including in the UK) … I accept that does not necessarily make it lawful …

      If, however, there is reasoning behind it and there are also other reductions eg under 23 discount (due to there being a probability that under 23s will be on lower incomes generally), reductions for some on benefits eg state pensions, and other relevant reductions at other times …

      I appreciate the cold hard fact may be to attract more younger and more “attractive” guys as a business strategy – but nonetheless if the discounts are fair – looking at one in isolation is not fair in itself …

  5. Is this cretin religious by any chance?

    Everyone knows that these saunas are pick up places.

    But they are harming nobody, they are discreet and they are a lot safer than outdoor pickup places. And if some hookers are working in them – well so what. Would she prefer them to be endangering their lives by working on the street,

    This woman is a complete moron.

    1. The increase in the number of gay saunas has coincided with a relative decrease in significant assaults and homicides in gay cruising areas. Whilst the reasons for this are more complex than merely the expansion of gay saunas – there is a sense in the UK (both in the LGBT communities and from the police) that saunas generally provide a safer location for gay men to meet including those who are not open about their orientation than public spaces. Generally they are more comfortable and warmer and they are unlikely to lead to significant complaints from the public being offended at being able to see activity as they walk their dogs.

  6. Actually she has a point, it’s supposed to be a sauna not a brothel.

    1. It’s not a brothel though.

      Granted some hookers may be working in these places but they are not employed by the sauna and any patron in the sauna is not obliged to do or pay any fee to any hooker.

      Either way – what goes on behind closed doors, and irrespective of whether money is exchanging hands, it’s none of her business.

      It is harming no-one and she just shows herself out to be a moronic bigot.

    2. “Actually she has a point, it’s supposed to be a sauna not a brothel.”

      Only is she has proof, and if she does, the police are tasked in a democracy to investigative, not some ranting religious freak who graduated in religious studies and who’s motto is “The starry sky above me, the moral code within me.”

      Yeah, lets take her word, he seems rational…..

  7. i dont believe it…..sex in a GAY SAUNA….never…..

  8. It’s licensed as a sauna. If there are male prostitutes working there, they are breaking the lease agreement.

    1. Get a grip for goodness sake.

      In any gay sauna in Britain there will be a certain percentage of the clientele who are ‘working’.

      It happens in ALL saunas.

      It is not immoral. It harms nobody. And only the most prudish of people would try to stop it.

      What does this moronic woman want – the hookers to work the streets outside the sauna instead?

      1. In all the saunas I’ve used (in the UK), “renters” are quite rightly seen as a nuisance and are asked to leave, if they are seen to be “working”. Saunas in this country are quite capable of self-policing; many would have folded if they insisted on “only doing what is legally required of them” – and no doubt the same is true in Czechia. No matter how many hoops the sauna owners jump through, there will always be homophobes who will pick up on some minor infringement, and use legislation to enforce compliance, in the hope that the establishment will be financially affected to the point that they are put out of business.

        If Ms Klasnová wants to purge Prague of its prostitutes I suggest she devotes her energies to finding out why the city is such a popular venue with largely-heterosexual male “stag parties” from the UK. To give her a pointer in the right direction, the “stags” don’t just go to Prague for the city’s cultural life and low beer prices…

    2. I think I would agree with Andrew. Her point seems to be that prostitution is going on at the premises and that would be illegal. Surely it’s hard to prove so she’s in for a bitter fight but nevertheless gay saunas should not operate as brothels.

      1. Rubbish.

        Offensive as it may be to the delicate sensibilities of some readers, this goes on in all gay saunas.

        However seeing as it is harming nobody it can be and is ignored.

        By attempting to close this sauna this disgusting bigot is endangering the lives of the hookers and their clients by forcing them out on the streets.

        1. @dAVID

          I entirely agree

          I am sure that some saunas that become aware of difficulties through some individual “hookers” using their premises will choose to exclude them. However, if there are no complaints from customers then, to be frank, the wider community does not have to know what goes on inside – they don’t have to go. They have to decide if they want saunas or more cruising …

          Its a win win situation to have saunas to be honest …

    3. friday jones 16 Nov 2011, 10:29pm

      So all non-gay bars should be closed down because they are violating their lease agreements too. You think straight hookers don’t work the bars, man?

      1. It’s easy to make the difference between a bar and a brothel, not so easy with gay saunas where guys don’t exactly use them for health or beauty purposes. Germany is full of these “sauna” type brothels, mostly straight, and they are licensed as brothels, no big deal. Anyway, I don’t see why gay sauna owners should enjoy a free ride when they allow sex workers on their premises to bring in more business.

  9. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 2:26pm

    How desperate they get. I assume she has plans for the property for her own interests?
    -
    Fact is it’s behind closed doors therefore no-one elses business but the customers.

  10. She has an agenda for the place talking about rent >.>

  11. Johnny33308 16 Nov 2011, 2:52pm

    Ah, so its back to the Dark Ages with the Gays!! Nice. No more gay money to the Czech Republic, people!

  12. Good to see some news on here that is about places within travelling distance.

    Prague is fabulous.

  13. I think it’s time for your anti-psychotic medication Keith.

    Pop those pills like the doctor recommends, There’s a good boy.

  14. shaun ryder 16 Nov 2011, 3:14pm

    Well guess that only compliments the religious “we don’t follow man’s law” mob!

    Face it Keith, the law of the land is determined my human beings, of which comprise of pressure groups each with subjective competing interests, and nothing else. Nothing magical, supernatural, or mysterious, it’s the way the world works. What a shocker!

    1. Time to increase your medication Keith.

    2. The move there and do us all a favour, you moron.

      (I see we’re bot drinking excessively tonight, and can just about type coherently – good for you drunkie)

  15. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 3:37pm

    What a fake. Do you really think anyone takes you seriously when all you say is purely for attention not because it’s what you think. It’s not even your opinion. You just do it to get attention, nothing else.

  16. It is time for all people to get the Christians out of the sex lives of people and get the Christians out of all of our bed rooms and keep them out. What consenting adults do is their business and not the business of anybody else, really there needs to be laws made to kick and keep the Christians out of our sex lives for good!

  17. Klasnova is well known in CZ as a corrupted populist politician. She claims that the sauna is “offering sex services” and breaching this way the contract, which is totally untrue! There is no prostitution in Babylonia. Actually Babylonia is a leader among Prague´s gay businesses considering HIV/AIDS prevention. Babylonia is supporting HIV prevention projects and offers free condoms which in fact is evidence against them! Most of other gay clubs (and there is more then 30 of them in Prague) just cash the many and keep quite and are therefore invisible for a populist politician. What a shame!

    1. What is her background. What did she work as before she became a politician?

      What is her property portfolio like?

      I think her background needs to be investigated by an enterprising Czech journalist and in case of any irregularities then these need to be exposed.

      1. See it in (poor) English here: http://www.katerinaklasnova.cz/english-resume. Education, if you can call it that, is in religious studies. Rather like doing a degree in Harry Potter.

        1. That’s a bit unfair ! I don’t recall anyone promoting bigotry intolerance and child abuse in the Harry Potter books and films. :-)

          And Daniel Radcliffe is very gay friendly, as shown by his involvement with the Trevor Project !

          1. friday jones 16 Nov 2011, 10:33pm

            Death Eaters were intolerant bigots against all Muggles and Muggle-Wizard mixes, and Dolores Umbridge was most definitely a child abuser.

          2. Er, I was referring to the fact that neither are real – albeit the Harry Potter books are far more interesting and consistent than the bible/random-religions-book….

          3. They rounded up muggle borns (a bit like they did the gays and jews in Naz! Germany)

  18. I think the Czech Republic should be doing all it can to encourage public displays of hot gay sex. After all, with the obscene amount of money I spend on Bel Ami porn every year it’s probably a major part of their economy…

    1. Their stuff is glossy but I wish they would feature more mature guys.

      1. Prefer slightly less glossy

  19. It’s impossible to stop rent-boys operating in these places, or, for that matter, in a local gay bar. If the company itself is not running and profiting from these services, she has no case. Like others here, I suspect that this woman has an axe to grind re. her property portfolio and is maybe backed up by some religious interests.

  20. and the dickeads keep replying

    1. Some of the “dickheads” have listened to the measured advice of some people on here … not the offensive barracking of others … and choose to make limited (if any) response …

    2. Good one James. Always with the “constructive” comments.

    3. You mean like yourself?

  21. Mr. Ripley's Asscrack 16 Nov 2011, 5:26pm

    Totally off topic but Keef, anyone could’ve thrown anything at these dumass repulsican bigots – even themselves – as they seem to be total media whores IMHO. And, although I do not condone any act of vandalism (which is a discriminatory description for the Vandal people who were sadly misunderstood but had the right idea with sacking Rome), I would think that there would come a time for direct action against these particular idiots. Additionally, the only truth about gays that any straight person should know of (speaking for myself obviously) is that we want to be able to live our lives the way we see fit and to so without your godsucking moralising and bigotry. If there were supreme beings in them old days of yore (my, how the suckers quickly forget the plural!), they fled the scene of the crime millennia ago, realising the huge mistake they’d made. Apologies for my colourful language, opinion and the side track…

  22. there must be an election coming up or something like that lol.
    .
    almost all late night bars in Prague, straight and gay are frequented by hookers, probably some doggy businessmen wanting the place is paying her to do the dirty job

  23. Another Hannah 16 Nov 2011, 6:01pm

    And I suppose she is completely unconcerned about hetero massage parlours….or are we supposed to believe that there aren’t any.

    1. Of course you are. You are also supposed to believe that heterosexuals only ever have sex in the missionary position, go to church every Sunday, have 2.4 children and are 100% monogamous.

  24. Eddy - from 2007 16 Nov 2011, 8:56pm

    Is this not simply just a case of a bigoted woman, a Czech “Anita Bryant”, who has got it in for queers?

    She can fire all her guns at this particular establishment, she feels, because it is operating in premises rented from the city council.

    Her claim that the sauna are “offering sex services” is very broad and its meanings encompasses everything from “professional” prostitution happening on the site to customers simply having sex with each other.

    She doesn’t like gays, she abhors the idea of men having sex with each other (and not with her), and because this particular sauna is sited in council property she knows she can at least shut this one down, though she can’t do much about the others.

  25. Eddy - from 2007 16 Nov 2011, 8:59pm

    Taking gay porn along to the council meeting to argue her case? How pathetic.

    Where are the Czech gay activists?

    Grab some glossy colourful square porn, half a dozen long-haired blonde gals all writhing over one cock, glue that to the doors of your Town Hall and demand that Klasnova resign immediately because she is long-haired blonde who looks just like one of the horny bitches!

    That will make the point, AND give her the embarrassment she deserves.

    Or are you going to let this individual get away with her behaviour at your expense??

    Come on, you Czech activists!!!!!!!

  26. carrie baker 16 Nov 2011, 10:43pm

    The Aclu and the lgbt human rights and lgbt lawyers are going to have to sue the school and fire the administration for personal harrasment of this teacher, The school cannot make escuses for its racism and anytime a gay person or a woman or a minority is fired , it has to be checked into because of the racism our nations encounters every day in glass ceiling and minority races and the lgbt community, she is number one a woman, thats racism against a woman and again she is a gay woman teacher and every school district has to be made mandatory of hiring lgbt fac;ulity and mentors and adminstration, our schools problems is not gay teachers are gay stu;d;ents nor gay anything, our school districts problem is the same problems we are encountering around our entire nation in every area, and that is your hetersexual men and their evil deviant dangerous characters from racism to sex pedaphilia, they have been arresting male hetersexual teaches left and right for rapping and sexually assaultin

  27. carrie baker 16 Nov 2011, 10:58pm

    The Aclu and lgbt lawyers, should make this school pay this woman school teacher because of her pain and emotional damage they have caused her, a lump sump of money and , a mandate to rehire her if she so elects to go back to that school , you cannot allow biggoted administration that have been getting in trouble all over thei nations for abusing children in the schools for racism as well, to get away with going after gay teachers also, the same racist administsrations , have also violated othet minorities rights and positions in areas as well , racism and predjudice cannot every tolorerated on anyone chidren nor grown ups, its evil and a hate crime and all schools andfd businesses had better be warned that they will be sueid if any gay persoanel is fired, or ab;used because the reasons are evidient it racism , like thei whole community is standing up for the woman gay school teacher against what the school did and all of them know it was done out of racism and predudice

  28. carrie baker 16 Nov 2011, 11:12pm

    Texas must fall under human rights and humanity , just like all states , are be reprimanded for the evil abuses of citizens, everywhere, noone should every allow these atrocities , The aclu of texas and all over and human right s watch must be over Texas every day, for racism more than half of all citizens in Texas are gay and gay families from gay lawyers , judges , poice officer, minister, b;usiness people, and on and on including gay politicialns and officials in Texas and This problem in waxahaxie and any other place Texas included , must be made right by every child harrased out of racism and adult, as well, all of these gay leaders had better get on top of these crimes against humanity, and thier peers and family members, racism is evil, the White house and president himself nancy pelosi should have made and immedieate call on the school and reprimanded it on behalf of the sschool teacher themselfs , the problem is just that diar and attentinon needed to set things right

  29. carrie baker 16 Nov 2011, 11:20pm

    You solve problems, you do not play with racist and biggots at all, yOu make a positve difference and let people know their will be no tolereance of mistreating others period , as President , these are the kinds of cases that need first priorities, I would have put my house shoe on, and fired up that presidentally airplane, and had a personal staff with me, taking their gloves out, taking names , when i would have next bre seen is an hour later marching into that damn school and having all of their ass in a meeting and you would be seeing every person envolved with the mistreatment of that woman school teacher or student case, marching out that door, i would have removed every one, the next warning would be given to the rest of the fac;ulty , the next problem if hear out of this school out of racism , i will be having your asses arrested for assaut of the vicstums and personall hate crimes, i would move the other teachers up into adminstration who have a congenial reputation of kindnes

  30. It just sounds like she is upset that the City is not getting a proper cut as it is in city owned property lol

  31. carrie baker 17 Nov 2011, 12:39am

    Now we are sick of the blonde predudice bitchers lilke ann coulter, thinking that the sun sets on their hetersexua asses, carring hate and predudice in their hearts for people and their families who have done nothing to them, the stupid assholes, these dumb ass women get thier asses messed over by hetersexual men every damn day, their husbands beating thier asses and cant keep a good man because there are not many hetesexual men that are good, and have the nerve to run around with the racist men as some of ignorant hetersexual women, abused and discriminated against in glass ceilings and seen only by the men as a peice of ass, an nothing more and nothing , more special than the next peice of ass, have the nerve to keep bother the gay families , its women like her who need their asses kicked, beca;use she is a bitch and trouble maker, and trying to hurt families an businesses for no reason other than her own wicked racism, the Aclu an all lgbt Leaders had better do something about he

    1. Carrie – try brevity and proper punctuation (especially paragraphs and full stops). I think you’ll find it’ll improve your posts.
      There are probably some interesting discussion points in what you said but your scattergun train-of-thought delivery makes them almost unreadable.

  32. @Carrie sorry but what does this tirade have to do with this news article?

    1. Nothing, but that is unfortunately true of all of Carrie’s posts. They seem to be nothing more then cut’n’pastes.

      1. S why are they not deleted

        1. Maybe they make for interesting decoration.

  33. Please ignore Keith, everyone. It is crystal clear by now that destructive attention-seeking, not rational engagement, is what he seeks.

    1. Riondo

      I agree

      In the past few days I have made 2 responses to him, and I wish I hadnt – no more comments to him from me …

      He needs to be starved and rejected, that requires everyone to ignore him

  34. Cambodia Guesthouse 17 Nov 2011, 1:21pm

    Well well well… Having lived in Prague for a number of years before moving out here, I can tell you that provided both parties are over the age of 18, prostitution is legal in the Czech Republic.

    Running a brothel is not of course. Where is this bigots evidence that the owners of this sauna are doing that? Where is her evidence that the owners are acting as any kind of a middle-man in any of these ‘transactions’ for ‘personal gain’? She has none.

    This sauna is a sauna… NOT a brothel.

    Sex occuring on the premises between consenting adults? Well, no sh-t sherlock! Whoever would have imagined that? Give the girl a star for intelligence!

    Producing ‘gay porn’ as some kind of ‘proof’ or as shock tactics? Pretty poor trick dear…

    What does that prove? Men have sex? Again, give the girl a star!

    One of the great things about the Czechs has always been their relaxed, laid-back attitude to sex of ALL kinds.. Their very healthy disregard to the religions out there…

  35. Cambodia Guesthouse 17 Nov 2011, 1:25pm

    …their belief that churches are mainly just nice, quaint old building to visit instead of going to pay homage to some mystical sky-pilot…

    Just goes to show though that even among more enlightened people, homophobes still exist. I also agree that this womans TRUE motives for raising this issue of ‘pressing concern’ to her should be fully investigated! It stinks quite frankly.

    He girl, people have sex in Letna Park also… (publicy owned)… you wanna close THAT also???

  36. Another publicity seeker. Silly fuzzy headed female

  37. Funny thing is she’s one of the six female members of her party who posed in this calendar, aiming at “showing there are women as well among our party’s leaders”:

    http://zpravy.idnes.cz/zeny-strany-veci-verejne-to-poradne-rozjely-nafotily-sexy-kalendar-11i-/domaci.aspx?c=A100422_185418_domaci_kop

  38. P A Mag LOCHLAINN 18 Nov 2011, 1:48pm

    Dear Ms Klasnova,

    Thank you for advertising this sauna. I know now where to spend my next holiday.

  39. TheBrutalKremlin 21 Nov 2011, 11:11am

    This is what happens when everybody goes around yelling ‘come out come out’ and posting everything under creation. You get hard-up housewives all up in your business.

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