This is a great show of defiance and support. We must also use every means at our disposal to make these backward politicians think again.
Their time would be better spent on trying to manage their countries correctly, without pocketing donated aid money etc.. instead of worrying themselves about what consenting individuals do in the privacy of their own bedrooms!
The word ‘scapegoating’ comes to mind.. Create ‘an enemy’ to divert attention from their own miss-management.
A kiss in is just a way of saying f@ck you to the nigerian government, I doubt it will be persuasive in any way.
I think that it is symbolic in a larger campaign to normalize LGBT people and persuade that universal human rights also apply to LGBT people …
In terms of the particular Nigerian legislation, I doubt it will stop it, but nonetheless it will increase media scrutiny and attention to the issue.
The more media attention can be brought to the issue the better. The more we try to urge universal human rights to be adopted for all of society – the more we are able to effectively send signals that we support LGBT everywhere (whether that be NIgeria, Nepal or New Zealand etc).
One does wonder how ‘Gay marriage is spreading’ as if it’s some inflicted disease. One things for sure the ignorance in these countries is spreading like an infection disease and I fear for the outcome for those innocent in the LGBT communities that brave all to try to get themselves heard.
Such countries that treat humanity so badly need to be picked from their governments and aid removed as a direct payment and given to the people that need it.
This is shameful. Bigots who feel they have the rightt o determine another life just because they choose a religious lifestyle and the damage to humanity it creates.
Remove the aid, let them go it alone, only help those who wish to help humanity, let them benefit but stop the governments profiting from our tax money.
Good luck with this protest and another example of how we as a community can do things peacefully.
I love being gay, when we protest do we throw rocks or firebomb police, do shout obscenities (well some might) at the offending parties, no we kiss. It is such a fantastic way of protesting that even I want to be an activist lol
Power tot he people :)
I’m all for a kiss in – especially if my fellow protester/activists are cute! lol
lol Hell yeah :)
It’s a protest, not a cruising session for the desperate.
FFS … a bit of light hearted banter ….
Do you have a sense of humour?
Of course its a protest (and if you look most of us commenting have made good explanations about why this works as a protest – with thoughtful intelligent comments) and that doesnt stop us having a little fun along the way …
Some people are just so uptight …
Hardly thoughtful, there’s no humour to be had by in human rights abuses.
Well, this is where we agree to differ …
I am not laughing at human rights abuses – I condemn them entirely and will actively campaign and seek for equality …
There is no contradiction in finding the tactic used to promote human rights and seek to eradicate human rights abuses humerous. Indeed, often the most humerous campaigns are the most memorable …
My humour is NOT towards the abuses but the mechanism to raise awareness and seek to change things …
As I say, some people are just so uptight …
The Nigerian population is 158,423,180, so at 5%, LGBT population of Nigeria is 7,921,159 – so numerous that if at a given day and hour, we dob ourselves in as gay, they would be utterly unable to imprison us all. Present Nigerian prison population is 47, 628 – already , nearly double the capacity of the prisons. Even if you halve LGBT numbers to eliminate children and the elderly, how could they possibly cope with an extra 3.5 million prisoners? Even the military which numbers only 161,000 active personnel would be unable to withstand a co-ordinated uprising by LGBT.
They simply don’t know their own power. LGBT may be a minority, but they eclipse the prison system by almost 160 to 1 and the military by at least 70 to 1. LGBT can remain invisible because they’re all in the closet, and so can organize in secret, so one has to wonder why they do not simply do so and rise up en masse against their oppressors.
Being gay is a western lifestyle, we dont want to associate with such obscenities. you will find out that those practising it in Nigeria are those that have lived in the west or those that liked their culture more than the African culture. No to gay marriage in Nigeria.
@Dave, that’s rude of you!
But an apt term for someone who think wisdom comes singularly out of a book about incestuous children and a guide on how to live in a whale for 3 days, and then comes onto a gay site not demonstrate that lack of intelligence.
No, I think Dave has it nailed on the head there, Sima – empirically, Sol is an idiot.
To be fair its an idiotic comment, Sima
Ignorance kills… clearly!!
@ Sol: even if being gay is a “Western Lifestyle” (as anyone with a grain of intelligence knows, it’s not), would you say it’s more or less so than choosing to write with Roman characters, communicate in English, or being Christian?
“Being gay is a western lifestyle, we dont want to associate with such obscenities”
As opposed to begging from western countries for food and aid so you don’t have to continue digging in the mud for it like animals?
Homosexuality was originally ok in most african countries, then the west brought over christianity and with it came homophobia!!
Indeed, if it wasn’t for the lack of education prehaps they’d know their own history.
It’s a tragic that Nigeria has completely misunderstood the intentions of the Commonwealth to advance global human rights.
We also have the option of leaving comments on Nigerian news sites to clear up this mess.
Can you suggest some news sites in particular?
There are a few here:
Posts made on a couple … be interesting to see the response later
Your excellent comment has been posted in the Nigerian Tribune, and I’ve copied it to my personal file on Africa.
Sadly the others have either chosen not to display my posts (which unsurprisingly were very similar!) or their moderation takes longer.
Thanks for the compliment. I guess one of my votes might be from you.
mmm…all my posts were deleted, but I did leave another one at the Tribune.
oh yea… you’ve earned my vote many times over.. :)
Excellent comment in the Tribune!
Unfortunately my comment is only on the Daily Times now. The Tribune has removed all comments. Disappointing.
:( … too bad because Nigeria is still making headlines, and the new Constitution is supposed to be finalized before the elections next Spring. I’ve also read somewhere that Mugabe is paranoid and getting frail.
Also, my comment to the Daily Times has not yet been approved.
Yeah I have read that Mugabe is getting frailer …
It might be the best opportunity for a fresh start for Zimbabwe
I shall keep trying to find appropriate Nigerian stories to comment on
just past 9 am here and I’ve just come online..and what a delightful surprise
I don’t need to tell you how powerful this organization can be, and it’s great to see that it is focused on international human rights laws, and I expect it will work hand in hand with Kaleidoscope.
Hopefully, this approach will wake and educate people who have been blinded by irrational beliefs and ignorance regarding the ambisexual nature of human beings… and animals too for that matter.
Great article – thanks for pointing it out
New organisation to me too, and I shall be looking out for more on it
I don’t think for one minute that Nigeria – or any of the other bigotted members – has ‘misunderstood’ the intentions of the Commonwealth. They understand perfectly fine. They just choose to completely ignore them….human rights, free elections, democracy are all but a joke to these despots and dictators. These so-called countries are a joke and the only thing they deserve is our derision. Absolutely nothing will win over the minds of these petty war lords. While I say yes to leaving messages, I would count on their being totally ignored.
How can a government criminalise someone for performing something that does not exist. Same-sex marriage does not exist in Nigeria nor recognised from outside; so if it does not exist, how can it be performed. So the outlawing of performing something that doesn’t exist in the first place is just stupid. It is totally illogical. But then logic is not a strong point with the Nigerian government.
mmm… it’s too bad we don’t have any input here from the Nigerian LGBT community.
Most of us can’t even begin to understand the conditions there.
I havent experienced any of the Nigerian problems, but having spent time in Kenya, Uganda, Ghana and Botswana several times I can empathise with the issues encountered in Africa.
Its great to see LGBT stories are occurring in the African press and that they respect the right to reply.
Hopefully we can encourage LGBT in Nigeria etc by our comments
A flash mob would be better and more stylish.
A flash mob with a kiss in (cos snogging cute guys in protest sounds damn fine to me!) and then a glittering of the ambassador … “Mister Ambassador !”
I think it is right for the African country to outlaw Gay Marriages in the country because it is not part of our culture, its a western thing and unfortunately, the west are doing all they can to infiltrate the whole world with this unacceptable lifestyle. David cameron can keep his aids for all i care but we should hold our cultural identity, you cannot teach us how to live our lives. I live in london and i dont care if you are gay or not because thats your choice but in Nigeria, its our choice to outlaw the unholy union and so be it. Activist here should go and and campaign for more opportunities in Uk but leave Nigeria out of this.God bless.
Being gay is not a cultural thing …
Homophobia does not form part of African culture … thats something unfortunately, you gained in Africa from colonisation by the Brits and other European nations …
We were wrong – and your hanging onto the wrongs we brought you is also wrong …
Being gay is not a choice … whilst there is no definitive science, there are strong reasons to suspect genetic, foetal development and environmental reasons why people are gay – not because they sat and weighed up the options and thought – “I know, I want to be gay” – really? … REALLY? … do you REALLY believe that …
There are more people in Sub Saharan Africa with HIV than in the entire EU, let alone the UK … So, as for your rhetoric on “AIDS” … that is far more likely in Africa (very few HIV patients in the EU develop AIDS defining illness) … also predominantly it is Sub Saharan African heterosexuals that are the growth area in the UK where HIV is concerned …
RIghts for all!
Who are you calling on the deity to bless? – all the
LGBT atheists who post to this list?
If I remember correctly but some ancient african deities were gay or at least hermaphrodites? Also was not african society mostly matriarchal not patriarchal and this sudden sense of manliness also came from european/muslim enforcement on male morality? AN how much real choice is there in Nigeria? How much of a democratic society is it and how much say does the “common man” have?
Sol – I think you’ll find that gayness is international. Entire countries go into denial about the gayness that occurs within their indiginous populations, but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t there in the first place.
Gayness isn’t some export, it’s not a trend, it’s not a part of some youth counter-culture you try when you’re bored. It exists in all lifeforms from mankind to dolphins to chimps to penguins. Claiming that we exported gayness to you is just plain wrong.
You always had gay people amongst you, the fact that you never noticed before is a result of anachronistic western emperial values. Gays might not be confident enough to come out the closet when oppressed, but it doesn’t make them any less gay.
Ignorance kills and you clearly mean race rather than culture.
When you become educated and see we no more Choose to be Gay as people do Straight then please do get back.
Your comment is ignorant, racist and damaging. The valve you clearly put so low on human life because you want to think your chosen religious lifestyle trumps how others are born is both evil and immoral. You should be shamed.
Africa darling, has a LGBTQI community whether you like it or not. It’s not about race or sex or culture. It’s about being human. In your case being human in an inhumane enviroment.
Choose to ignore the facts all you want but it doesn’t change them, you were a ignorant fool before you wrote here and will probably remain so until you get so education to better your life and others around you.
Wake up and smell the Fairtrade coffee.
Even if homosexuality were a “Western thing” (which it’s not), has it stopped Nigerians from accepting other “Western things”, like the English language, electricity, cars, television, jeans, [nominal] democracy, dentistry – and Christianity?
Good point, Rehan.
No offense intended, but please do a bit of research before affirming such a thing.
I think the principle all over the world is freedom of speech. In this spirit, pls post my comment, it is carefully worded not to provoke anyone so it deserves to be posted. i hope to read the reply tomy comments afterwards. regards.
Freedom of speech includes the right to say things with which others disagree – including saying “I love you” in front of witnesses. So how can you be in favour of free speech, and yet want to criminalise same-sex weddings?
This law is not about preventing same-sex marriage. Nigeria already does not recognise same-sex marriage, and no additional law is required.
This law would criminalise holding a symbolic wedding ceremony, a form of public self-expression, with no legal significance. And if you are in favour of free speech, even when your audience finds it uncomfortable, you should be opposed to this piece of legislation, which has nothing to do with preventing same-sex marriage and everything to do with suppressing free speech for LGBT Nigerians.
Also, you are wrong that homosexuality is something Westerners brought to Nigeria. It is often the Western-educated who have the opportunity to speak out for LGBT rights. But that does not mean that there are no other gay Nigerians.
I think your last post is worded without any animosity but lacks understanding and insight …
Freedom of speech should be universal … unfortunately many countries such as Nigeria deny this to gay people …
All freedoms such be exercised with responsibility so that consideration may be given to those whose rights are curtailed by the exercising of ones own rights …
The oldest evidence of homosexuality is from the Congo and Egypt – it couldnt be more African …
Sol the only posts that were deleted were the nasty bullying style comments from a previous poster. Kinda like posting on a jewish site anti-Semitic messages. As I said in a previous post disagreeing is ok there is no need to be nasty :)
“it is carefully worded not to provoke anyone so it deserves to be posted”
Are you serious? You think the term “unholy union” was designed by you to be inoffensive. Unholy, by who’s estimation? Yours? So a backward little religion that believes the earth is 6,000 years of and a god who makes old men chop their sons heads off for giggles deems my relationship “unholy”, and you think you deserve the right to impunity of your comment????
Well, here’s my free speech:- you obviously a small minded idiot. Less of that stupid religion and more independent thought. You’re quick enough to take the proceeds of the prosperous UK economy, so if you like Nigeria’s “way of life” that much, why didn’t you stay? Oh that’s right, its an oppressive kip. But its okay that you have human rights but not others, isn’t it?
Sol, being gay isn’t a lifestyle, we don’t choose it. Do you choose being straight, assuming you are which I doubt?
I certainly wouldn’t choose to be gay, if I had the choice I would of been a woman so I could have kids, oh well we cope with the hands we are dealt I am gay so no point moaning about it lol
I’d prefer to have been born a women (I don’t feel like I want to change it to one but I wish I had been born one), But I’m actually very happy I’m gay now (though I definitely wouldn’t been if I was living in Nigeria)
Thanks Ahmed. That comment says everything anyone needs to know about your intelligence and level of civilisation.
Oh, so you think anonymously peddling your islamic garbage here is making you look brave? You do know your “prophet” was a paedophile and a rapist? He sure was. The great Mohammed, now days he’s be on the sexual offenders list.
And tell me, I don’t speak mumbo jumbo, what the hell is this line supposed to mean “Oyibo make you come now..there you go see pepper”
Pepper? What pepper? And why should I see it? Not too good at the old reading and writing are you. You should pray to Mohammed for help in that area, but don’t let him touch children, we all know here that ended up last time…..
Wow, Nigeria sounds like a really lovely place, doesn’t it? So cultured and civilised. So well read. So many “peppers”, apparently.
… not!! lol :)
Oh Ahmed, I pity you and your outdated religion. Yes we will kiss in London and would be able to kiss in public in Nigeria someday. don’t forget it took even the UK a long time to get here. How can you claim you love God when you have no respect for Equality and Human Rights? I thank God we would be able to Kiss Homophobia goodbye, standing in Solidarity with those who are deprived of such freedom in Nigeria.
Fags, were you able to do your thing in London? how did it go? when are you coming to Zamfra, Nigeria?
I think you mean Zamfara, not Zamfra, right?
Zamfara is a State where an ex-governor that ruled for eight years would spend an alleged $150,000 to wed a child bride but could not make any decent effort to provide his people with simple necessities of life like potable water, a decent health care system and means of sustenance that could have discouraged them from engaging in illegal activities (gold mining) just to eek out a living.
With $150,000, a minimum of 50 functional water boreholes could have been built, thus saving some Zamfara State people from drinking from the same water sources as their cattle, or dying from lead poisoning from drinking contaminated water used in gold mining.
By the way, how do you feel about gay rights being protected in the new Constitution…. or about ancestral monuments being demolished in Mecca to make room for hi-rise hotels that look more like downtown Manhattan?
you know so much about Nigeria, its amazing! Can u ask the British to please pull out all their companies from Nigeria as well as cutting of aids to us as we dislike gays? Nonsense!
How are you FAGS?