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  1. Dr. R Guthrie 31 Oct 2011, 5:00pm

    Religion and Homophobia item number 2 of the week.

    1. Not that I think there is a need for numbering these articles …

      But yeah the information disclosed in this article is religious based, homophobic and risible … and unfortunately legal in Georgia …

      1. Dr. R Guthrie 1 Nov 2011, 2:57am

        There is a very great need in numbering these articles as the religious need to be held to account for their actions. I am simply as I stated before, logging the number of times these people cause us harm.

        And it needs to be pointed out that it is they that are ultimately responsible for the majority of misery that they pour onto gay people.

        Bear in mind that it is American evangelicals that are poisoning countries such as Uganda, etc etc. so the legality of said poison is irrelevant.

        1. But the religious are not the ones posting these stories … how does your numbering of stories on PN affect these people – it doesnt …

          I am going to do a random poll of my friends who are gay by email and see how many of them believe their misery is due to religion – I suspect not many …

        2. I agree that there is a significant element of American evangelicals involved in issues such as Uganda

          That certainly need robust handling and challenge

          The government and people of Uganda are not immune from criticism in this however, and its more complex than just pointing the finger at nasty religion (although I do agree more needs to be done to confront their bigotry).

          Counting threads on PN – not really going to influence anything though

          1. paddyswurds 2 Nov 2011, 11:55am

            @Stu…
            ….you are extremely naive if you think that the majority of world homophobia isn’t in someway connected to religion, usually of the Abrahamic cults kind, either directly as in this case or by influence during upbringing and schooling. Get real Stu. Once again your defense of these Neanderthals belies your supposed agnosticism.

  2. “The move, which is legal as the university is privately funded…”

    Perhaps, then, the good people of the United States ought to introduce some decent regulatory laws to STOP this sort of thing being legal. Y’know, like we have in civilized countries (as of 2007 in Britain anyway…)

    1. I disagree. This is separation of church and state. Churches *do* have a right to decide the standard of behavior for their membership and for employees of their privately funded businesses.

      HOWEVER – anyone who does not agree can and should withdraw their funding of the establishment and tell them why they are withdrawing their funding. We also have the right to be sure that absolutely no government funds of any kind are being used to fund this school. If their students are getting any government student loans or grants, that has to stop.

      1. NudeDancer 31 Oct 2011, 5:13pm

        You’d penalise the students for the behaviour of the school?

      2. Spanner1960 31 Oct 2011, 5:35pm

        Totally agreed. Let these people be judged for their actions. Let’s see where the private funding comes from, and publicise what they are subsidising.
        These people will shoot their mouths off as long as their benefactors remain anonymous, but let’s see how brave they are once the spotlight points them out in the crowd.

      3. de Villiers 31 Oct 2011, 6:01pm

        This is nothing to do with “church” and “state” rather the complete lack of any proper secularism in the United States.

        It is appropriate for the state to regulate the behaviour or private individuals or organisations relating to employment and the provision of services in order to prevent discrimination and less favourable treatment.

        It is no argument to say that we can try to have a person’s funding withdrawn. That is unrealistic and ineffective. The state properly can regulate such activity as a matter of public policy. Discrimination on grounds of race, caste, birth, gender and sexuality offend against the notion that everyone is entitled to be treated as an individual. Such a value traces itself back to the Enlightenment that even human being is entitled to equal respect and to be treated as an end and not a means. For a country that preaches and enshrines the rights of the individual, it is unfortunate that in this instance, the United States has failed to secure them.

      4. de Villiers 31 Oct 2011, 6:03pm

        This is nothing to do with “church” and “state” rather the complete lack of any proper secularism in the United States.

        It is appropriate for the state to regulate the behaviour of private individuals or organisations relating to employment and the provision of services in order to prevent discrimination and less favourable treatment.

        It is no argument to say that we can try to have an organisation’s funding withdrawn. That is unrealistic and ineffective. The state properly can regulate such activity as a matter of public policy. Discrimination on grounds of race, caste, birth, gender and sexuality offend against the notion that everyone is entitled to be treated as an individual. Such a value traces itself back to the Enlightenment that every human being is entitled to equal respect and to be treated as an end and not a means. For a country that preaches and enshrines the rights of the individual, it is unfortunate that in this instance, the United States has failed to secure them.

      5. For a start the “wall of separation” in the US constitution is about preventing the government of the country from establishing an official state religion or favouring one religious group over another. It has nothing to do with whether a university is required to obey the laws of the land. A church is not allowed to conduct human sacrifices, because that would be against the country’s murder laws. I doubt the offending group would get very far trying to claim that as a breach of the wall of separation, and this is no different. Were there goods and services provision non-discrimination regulations in America then the churches would have to obey those too.

        But were it actually the case that the constitution of the United States made it a fundamental legal right to be able to engage in such homophobic discrimination (and it doesn’t) then it would be a stupid and unjust constitution and should be changed. Any legal system that allows this sort of thing is clearly an inadequate one.

    2. @VP

      At least we brought in the legislation (however late it was) in the UK

      Its disappointing that so called advanced societies such as the US (sometimes I regard that as a bit of an oxymoron) … do not value human rights

    3. Civilized countries that don’t allow gay marriage and have a state religion?

  3. The real religious dictators in the world, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILBapfzxo8c

  4. Julian Morrison 31 Oct 2011, 5:14pm

    Do they follow the other rules on ritual cleanliness too?

    1. I take it they also dont have Creole prawns or moules on the menu in the college?

      1. Well, considering it’s rare to see any Creole cooking at all outside of New Orleans, Louisiana…

        1. Ok griddled garlic prawns then …

  5. “Anything outside that is not biblical, we do not accept. We have a right to hire only Christians.’

    So I assume they don’t allow eating of shimp, pork and wearing poly-cotton.

    I love the way people cherry pick the bible to suit their bigotry.

    1. Whenever Christian organizations start requiring such “no sin pledges” I always wonder why they choose their particular list. I suspect its because those behaviors are the ones actually going on. After all, you don’t see them asking for a pledge not to cheat on their taxes or say nasty things about their neighbors. Those would be bad things to do as well. Once you start a list like this, where do you stop? No, they pick on the ones that are actually occurring – suggesting this little school is having problems with gay faculty and adulterous faculty. Which, btw, is not uncommon in these so-called “Christian” schools.

      1. It also brings in the question of divorce? Isn’t that forbidden?

        You have made a promise to God, so wouldn’t breaking that promise be classed as blasphemy?

    2. GingerlyColors 1 Nov 2011, 7:02am

      And do they keep a few black slaves to clean the toilets?

  6. jamestoronto 31 Oct 2011, 5:30pm

    Next they’ll invoke the biblical right to have obedient slaves. After all, this is Georgia.

    1. yes Georgia is the operative word here

    2. Georgia, twinned with Uganda…
      Or is that an insult to most decent Ugandans?

  7. Don’t we already have something similar in some faith schools here, e.g. no protection for gay teachers being sacked?

  8. no surprise there…yeah i wonder how many TOTALLY abide by the bible…

    1. DonHarrison 31 Oct 2011, 8:59pm

      Nothing to do with the bible.
      There is nothing in the old Testiment
      Jesus say nothing about homosexuality and what Paul is is talking about the Greeks.
      It is about the US views on religion.

  9. Its legal, so they are within their rights to do it.

    Mind here in the UK, you dont need to, I can spot a homosexual from a mile off.

    1. What even through those thick-lensed glasses of yours?

    2. Obviously you have a very wel
      l tuned Gaydar Matthew

    3. I can spot a homosexual from a mile off.

      Don’t worry Matthew, no-one who’s read your frothing burblings here can be in any doubt of your cruising skills.

    4. can spot ‘em Matthew? makes it easy to pick up a trick here and there i guess, whenever you spot one of course,lucky bugger

    5. Spanner1960 2 Nov 2011, 8:07am

      Matthew: “I can spot a homosexual from a mile off.”
      So can I mate. We call it Gaydar.
      It’s generally only other gay men that have this ability, so is there something you are not telling us?

    6. “I can spot a homosexual from a mile off.”

      Do you practice in the mirror?

    7. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 2:47pm

      Tawn… you’re a bore.

  10. What do they mean about a lifestyle outside of biblical mandate? Surely that would include things like slavery is ok; coveting your neighbours ox and how are they going to enforce not wearing clothes of two types of thread!?!?!?!?!?!?

    1. Presumably they already teach Creationism and would already dismiss anyone who believed in evolution?

      1. They believe that acceptance of evolution leads to people becoming mass murderers. I kid you not.

        1. It’s interesting that that one is still around. In the Scopes Monkey Trial of 1925 William Jennings Bryan claimed that widespread German belief in Darwinism led to the bloodshed of the trenches in the Great War. I wonder if lunacy is less varied than we thought.

  11. Here is another example of an anti gay American Christian, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9DH-o_kP-Q&feature=related

  12. As my fellow contributors have ably covered the main concerns of this superstitious – backward university – Can i add – have these bigots ever considered the damage their ignorance and flagrant stupidity will do to religion when (very soon) we all look back at the age of blind faith and how humanity evolved out of it’s dark and embarassing shadow? when you read their quotes and picture real humans spouting this drivel it really is pathetic…

    1. righteous John!

  13. So I guess pedophilia is OK with them, as long as it’s not a child of the same sex. And what about rape? Is that OK too as long as it’s a member of the opposite sex?

    1. de Villiers 31 Oct 2011, 6:04pm

      I’m not sure that is a realistic or valid inference to be drawn. Really – there are better points to argue against this.

  14. This is segregation in it’s most blatant form. “Land of Freedom” my arse!

  15. Mike Homfray 31 Oct 2011, 6:18pm

    Lunacy, but its actually preferable to the behaviour of church colleges here, who manage to get rid of all their gay staff quite legally through any number of underhand means. Having been a victim but one who has no actual hard evidence to prove it, I’m not sure what I’d prefer.

    1. Personally, I couldn’t care less. It’s not a public institution, and any non-christian person who chooses to go to a christian university should probably have his head examined. Thing is…they have the right to practice their faith – however backward. In this instance, they’re not forcing it on anyone by trying to implement it in a public institution. Let the christians cuddle up to their bibles, those who choose to go there. No one else need apply.

  16. What a wonderful university! Now, all potential students who are COMPLETE idiots will know the perfect, ideal college at which to vegetate and come out even dumber than before they entered.

  17. American evangelicals are trying to sabotage efforts to persuade African countries to get rid of the old British laws criminalising gays:

    http://wthrockmorton.com/2011/10/31/narth-features-leader-of-international-efforts-to-keep-homosexuality-illegal/

  18. Why are some religious people so focused on sex? The Bible prohibits loads of things, why be so selective?

    1. DonHarrison 31 Oct 2011, 9:05pm

      I agree with you Neil, but there is nothing in the bible that prohibits
      homosexuality. What Paul say about homosexuality does not say “Do not do it”

      1. Leviticus 18:22 seems pretty clear on the matter. And the Pauline passages are clearly very homophobic in character. Trying to pretend it is not an anthology shot through with patriarchal homophobia of the worst kind is pretty naive. Admittedly there is the Song of Songs, which is a gay love lyric, but the whole collection is pretty atrociously edited together, and contains little of any value for all but antiquarians and scholars of the ancient near east.

        1. Rubber Ducky 1 Nov 2011, 11:37am

          its only ‘clear’ per say after more modern versions came about, the phrases used in their original langauge do not apear to be referring to homosexuality, that was 1 of the major problems with translating things from hebrew to greek and then onto latin and then english, the same problem is seen with the parting of the red sea and the word betray at the last supper being incorrect (but thats a whole other issue that most christians refuse to admit heh)

    2. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 2:52pm

      It’s all they can do… it’s called projection. They accuse all else of the very things they do themselves and use ‘God’ and ‘relifious texts’ as their excuse for allowing such hate.

  19. I am utterly amazed more and more when I read some of the comments from so called Christian’s of the USA. Don’t you people have anti-discrimination laws in your country ?? I can’t see that because it is a private college these laws cannot be enforced. Anti-discrimination is there. It would not last 5 seconds in a court in my country (Australia) where these laws are very strong especially regarding employment on the basis of age, race, religion or sexual orientation and the employer would not even dare to ask the question knowing full well that he could end up in court. Wake up America.

    1. Morbidly fascinating as it may seem to people in the civilized world, America really doesn’t have anti-discrimination laws. Or, at least, not for gay people. For ethnic minorities… those it does have. But they still haven’t twigged that this is exactly the same situation yet. Bit slow over there for the most part, when it comes to equality provisions. Too much religion.

      1. Yes, you are correct VP. Many states don’t have any such laws and in fact many employer’s don’t have non-discrimination rules. Fortunately I work for a company that protects their Gay and Lesbian employees. And of course that includes all GLBT.

      2. Johnny33308 1 Nov 2011, 3:35am

        sadly, correct-especially in the South-stay away from the South unless it is Ft. Lauderdale/Miami, and maybe Atlanta-no other places are safe for us-I know I live in Orlando-trust me, the Christians are out in force everywhere in the South-and for goodness sake, stay the hell away from Texas-land of the idiots! George Bush is from there…need I say more?

    2. No, anti-discrimination law in the US is piecemeal and state by state. The Democrats have been trying since 1994 to pass ENDA (Employment Non-Discrimination Act), but the scumbag bigoted filth is a powerful lobby and the law won’t pass.

  20. What fun it’ll all be, for the blokes anyway. After all, just following the honourable example of the Patriarch Jacob – 12 sons and a daughter by 2 wives (sisters) and their 2 servants – will keep them occupied for a while. (Adultery appears only to apply to married women.)

    However, while it’s amusing enough (and easy) to mock, part of me thinks if it’s a private institution, it should be allowed to set its own rules.

  21. Blatant discrimination. Hiding behind the fact its privately funded is no excuse! Stop using unwarranted irrational fear and get used to it!!!

  22. Could a gay private employer in Georgia state that he would only employ non-Christians?

    If not, why not?

    1. Probably. But some “christian” would probably throw a brick/molotov cocktail through the window or shoot at the owner. And I am quite serious.

  23. carrie baker 31 Oct 2011, 11:52pm

    The wicked Universities and schools everywhere that stigmatize and harrass and discriminate against children, must be sued by the aclu and other lgbt founders of human rights, no name of an institution gives it a right to violate and assault children parents must start suieng and going to the medial as well and to human rights and gay lawyers and judges, any public faciltiy that is not in your private home is public and no one has a right to discriminate are to use prejudice in the the systsem against children and others for their race, gender or sexual orientation, if the wicked evil racist dont like other people and the people have done nothing to them they should not be in public jobs at all abusing citizens, stay away from the public people of all shades and genders and races if you have a racist problem, because they; the racist is the problem the rest of the people get along well and fine, the employees personal lives gay and hetero, or none of the ;universities business, if they

  24. What’s the difference between signing this statement and when you sign that you are not gay when you go into the military? Do you really think they are going to tell the truth and risk their jobs? I think not!

    1. Which military is that?? Not ours, and not theirs anymore!

    2. David Nottingham 1 Nov 2011, 10:20am

      Absolutely. If I were stupid enough to be on the payroll of this ludicrous “university” I’d just sign it anyway. Its clear to me that they are just cherry-picking poorly interpreted biblical contexts to fuel their homophobia and hatred, so I’d have no problem in having a laugh at their expense…! The idea of (and indeed the original meaning of the word) “University” is to afford individuals opportunties to develop, synthesise and healthily discuss universally the great issues and questions of the day. To deny an acceptance and understanding of human nature, especially human sexuality, is an anachronism in a “university”. Employers, other educational institutions and the US government should not recognise these places as universities. They’d soon change their minds when the money stops rolling in!

  25. Sir Andrew 1 Nov 2011, 2:48am

    I am so embarrassed to admit that I was actually a student at Shorter College (as it was then) in the sixties. It was not as biased as today, although the dean threatened to kick out gays if he knew of them. Yet the place was loaded with gay men (I don’t know about the lesbian side). In fact, more than half of their vaunted basketball team was either gay or played around with boys. Since I was one of the boys, I know this to be true. I had a boyfriend for a while and had more sex than I knew how to handle; yet handle it I did. It’s laughable that they’re doing this to the staff. And Baptists wonder why they are the butt of so many jokes.

    1. Thank you for this info. It confirms my feeling that explicitly homophobic institutions conceal a vast amount of same-sex action (on the principle of being able to do what is assumed impossible).

    2. great post Andrew.

  26. Johnny33308 1 Nov 2011, 3:29am

    So nice to be able to count on Christians in the US to be so very judgmental. It affirms their bigotry quite nicely-Jesus did not discriminate or judge oithers in such a way, how is it those who claim to “follow” Him can do the opposite, and still claim to be Christians? Am I missing something here…..?

    1. It’s “cafeteria christianity”. You just slide your tray down the scriptures and pick out the bits that you like the look of. Simple truth – actually following Jesus, helping people, giving a damn etc takes time, effort and commitment. Hating LGBT folks is easy and free. And yet both makes christians feel “holy” if they have cherry-picked the way they want to.

  27. Lock the bigots inside that university building and burn it down to the ground and salt the earth under.

    1. I just noticed I now have two thumbs down. Why? Is it because my comment it politically incorrect? Or is it because it has been taken far too seriously? Did I disturb some chritian because of what I said? Or maybe because of my obvious lack of tolerance for bigots that promote an agenda that actually kills kids?

      How about the fact I lost a friend that committed suicide months after having come out of the closet to me? How about a video that says that there were 300 kids that committed suicide just in Canada IN ONE DAMN YEAR? How many more Matthew Shepard do you need before waking up and start getting offended by people like those in that university or something that tries to pass as one.

      Universities and colleges and schools are supposed to be bastions of enlightenment. Where is that enlightenment when hate, intolerance and bigotry is promoted?

      Those thumbs down? I’m proud of them because they just proved my point. No more shame for my being gay.

      1. you have every right to be angry, and my sincere condolences, we have all suffered under Christofascism(two peas in a pod) I take my red thumbs with pride too.

      2. David Myers 2 Nov 2011, 8:06am

        Yes your suggestion is politically incorrect. If your not serious you should not joke about it. It just makes you appear to condone the kind of behavior you are complaining about. I understrand and share your frustration at the results of their hatred and bigotry (our bullieds youth martyrs), but stooping to their level of hatred and at least feighned hostility does no one any good. If they talked about us like that we would call them hate mongers urging violence and murder and rightfully ask for intervention, if we took them seriously. So clearly such morbidly violent reactions invoke serious reactions in those who hate us and those who don’t know if you’re partly serious. That’s why you got down votes from gays and lesbians.

        1. Wow… I come from a time where the idea of political correctness wasn’t even in the near future. That should date me a bit. Back then if anyone had tried to use political correctness it would have been understood as pure abject hypocrisy. In other word if you couldn’t say what you really had on your mind they would have told you to shut up. I’m not telling you to shut up, just what the reaction would have been… back then.

          So, stay politically correct while kids drop like flies around you. Meanwhile I’ll hope that you never know the pain I’ve known in my life. As for church burning? Of course I’m totally against that very idea because it is savagey at its worse. But I’ll be damned before I shut up because of political correctness.

          Before I forget, the friend I lost because he killed himself? He wasn’t even 20 years old yet. Hell, we still were students. I’ll let you keep your political correctness while I keep my honesty.

  28. GingerlyColors 1 Nov 2011, 6:58am

    That will mean that gay employees will have to lie in order to protect their jobs. Such a move is illegal in the UK and should be illegal in all the US states. I am fed up of employers dictating to their employees have they should live their lives and what they do outside work. I am sick to death of hearing about American Christian fundalmentalists who are the mirror image of Iran’s Islamic fundalmentalists.
    For more about American Christians visit:

    1. It’s not illegal in the UK.

  29. Shocking. Are the women not allowed to wear trousers? Must the men never cut their beards? Are they not permitted to wear mixed fibres? Are they checked on that they don’t eat pork?! I could go on.

  30. the yanks are brainwashed someone help them

    1. Father Ted 1 Nov 2011, 9:36am

      Keep sending over Derren Brown.

    2. hehehe yes indeed please help. it would take a super human, but if you’ve got one. we put the back in backward…

  31. It seems to me, that most reactionary religious fundamentalists who invoke their scripture, aren’t actually protecting scripture. They’re giving preference to traditional prejudices of their own culture. It’s not faith, but rather cynical dogma – a paranoid fear of even the appearance of aberration from tradition. This does not allow for the kind of individual soul-searching and critical thinking skills conducive to mature mental and spiritual development. It’s easier to prejudge and to repeat what someone else has said, rather than to actually go to the effort of pondering for oneself whether something is truly the right thing to do. How can you develop a conscience if you forbid yourself to risk exercising it? We have brains and free will for a reason, and must not forfeit them.

    1. Father Ted 1 Nov 2011, 9:38am

      Reminds me of the scene in Life of Brian where they all chant together “yes, we are all individuals!”.

  32. It sounds like a fine policy to me and I hope they enforce it properly.

    They’ll have no staff left within the year!

  33. Father Ted 1 Nov 2011, 9:40am

    Sounds like a gross invasion of privacy. Isn’t there a right to privacy in America?

    1. David Myers 2 Nov 2011, 8:11am

      For classes of people protected under non-discrimination legislation, which in most places and cases does not include sexual orientation. One new exception, in US federal jobs which was acheived by executive declaration by President Obama.

  34. United STates of Bigotry. And make sure you keep up with ALL that biblical behaviour, screw your daughters and stone your kids…wouldn’t want you dumb christofascists to be hypocrites…. Good grief, how I despise christians.

    1. that makes two of us…. may I have a red thumb please?

      1. Before anyone actually whine about how I can’t tar all christians with the same brush I just think about how so-called “moderate christians” (who see as rare as rockinghorse crap) never stand up and say “not in my name”. Silence comes awfully close to complicity. And if you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas, so try cleaning the flipping dog for a change.

        1. Dr Robin Guthrie 1 Nov 2011, 2:07pm

          Here Here…

        2. David Myers 2 Nov 2011, 8:17am

          I live in Vancouver Canada and I’d say at least a third of Christians here support non-discrimination for gays and lesbians. It is the fundamentalist Christians and some Catholics who do most of the hating. And here a lot of those supportive Christians do speak up. I too have been frustrated by Christians but have come to realize that what I really mean are “some Christians”. I’m all for encouraging “true” Christians (those who don’t hate or judge) to be true to the actual teachings of Jesus and to speak up when they see abuse in the name of their religion.

      2. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 2:53pm

        Apparently not!! lol

  35. Private or public, if they are providing legally contracted and paid employment they should not be allowed to get away with this. That apart, all this nonsense raises some amusing questions. Are married staff prohibited from sex when the woman is menstruating? Are polygamists allowed to work there? Is the teaching of the real value of pi forbidden in favour of the (incorrect) Biblical one? The intellectual standards of this ‘university’ must be a hoot.

    1. Do the scriptures endorse the use of electricity?

      1. They are unaware of the use of most things, so are not in a position to endorse or censure them, but nothing else can be expected of motley scribblings dating from c. 800 bc to 100 ad. It’s the folk who regard them as infallible oracles who are the problem.

  36. wow… I’m at a loss for words……to think, these people have to create their own rules to hide themselves, their hatred and bigotry and prejudices…..i’m almost in tears laughing….what is it really they think they are protecting? Why can’t we all get along?

  37. Even for straight couples, biblical sex = really boring sex.

  38. Stephen Sovie 1 Nov 2011, 12:57pm

    I presume this so called university offers degrees in Bigotry and Hatred and wear white robes and hoods at graduation.

  39. Philippe Landman 1 Nov 2011, 1:22pm

    So what next??
    All homosexuals must wear the sign of the unclean (pink triangle anyone?) Christians must not shop in stores owned by or run by homosexuals. Books with references to or written by homosexuals must be burned.

    etc etc etc

    Sieg Heileluja

  40. Art Pearson 1 Nov 2011, 3:00pm

    Yes, private or public must not make a difference. Laws must be strengthened to close these loopholes.

  41. And is Mike Judge and the anti-christian union going to defend their right to do this when it leads to a court case?

  42. Yet another tale of unfairness, spite, vindictiveness and small-mindedness from the Fading Empire.

  43. Ga Ga Flash Mob 1 Nov 2011, 6:40pm

    Land of the Free – only for corporate bodies, not humans.

  44. I wonder if they are allowed to wank :-)

    1. David Myers 2 Nov 2011, 8:20am

      Not on “holy days” ;-)

  45. Spanner1960 2 Nov 2011, 8:18am

    I wonder if someone could enlighten me on this. There was a big thing a few years back about gay cub scout leaders not being allowed, as it was considered a “private” organisation. Equally, we still have men’s clubs, clubs that don’t allow women, such as golf clubs, and various other organisations that restrict membership on one criteria or another…

    Has any of this changed now? At what point does a private gathering of people become a public one, or at least one where the law can intervene?

    1. David Myers 2 Nov 2011, 8:30am

      If you are talking about the US, it really depends on what state you are in. I am not up to date at this point in what states have non-discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation laws (if any). In other cases, sometimes courts may have ruled in a particular state that an existing law needs to be interpreted to include sexual orientation.
      In Canada, each province passed, in their own time, laws specifically designed to add “sexual orientation” into their human rights codes. Finally the Federal courts ruled that the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (which did not specifically include sexual orientation in its non-exhaustive list of categories of prohibited discrimination), had to be interpreted to include the category of sexual orientation.
      I suppose a similar process will eventually take place in the states unless a Federal law is passed or a federal Supreme Court interprets existing federal legislation to include sexual orientation where ever “sex” is mentioned in federal anti-discrimination legislation – not very likely, by the way, with the current conservative- dominated U.S. Supreme Court.

  46. paddyswurds 2 Nov 2011, 11:48am

    “all sexual activity not in agreement with the Bible, including, but not limited to premarital sex, adultery ” So let me get this straight….incest, Paedophilia and all the other peversions extolled in this ancient book of fiction are allowed by this backwoods institute. Is this some of the freedom the Pilgrims went to the new world for…..???

    1. In which parts are they extolled?

      1. Not so much extolled as utterly taken for granted, like concubinage and polygamy.

  47. paddyswurds 2 Nov 2011, 2:09pm

    @Stu…
    ….you are extremely naive if you think that the majority of world homophobia isn’t in someway connected to religion, usually of the Abrahamic cults kind, either directly as in this case or by influence during upbringing and schooling. Once again your defense of these Neanderthals belies your supposed agnosticism. Get real Stu.

  48. Here we go again with the U.S – land of the free. Oh, the irony!

  49. Biblical lifestyle according to WHOSE interpretation? Because at the root of this (apart from religious arrogance and invasiveness) is the question of WHO arbitrates over WHAT is the CORRECT biblical interpretation and apparently the officials of the school seem to think they have some Divine right to determine how to apply scripture to other people’s lives.

    There are some of the faculty that disagree with this measure and if they are smart and theologically versed, they could challenge it on the SAME biblical grounds.

    That’s what is so great about basing your entire spirituality on an ancient text. You can mire yourself in pedantic arguements that never end.

  50. Why do gays want to tie de hands of churches at their back and have dem lick their anus??

    1. You want someone to lick you anus???? You dirty bitch. Really, you keep that to yourself.

      1. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 2:50pm

        Indeed!!

    2. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 2:49pm

      Crazy says what now? Is that all you think about? Perv!

  51. What is dis rubbish, why do u bigots want to tie the hands of churches behind their back? Why wud u want to work for a company which doesn’t share your backward and retarded behaviour. They should identify all gay spies and flush dem out of their institution. Utter Rubbish!!!

    1. Dear Ama, I have no idea if you are trying to be funny or serious. But just in case you are serious read the following.

      http://www.queerty.com/gay-man-beaten-stabbed-set-on-fire-at-party-in-rural-texas-20111101/?fb_ref=friendactivity

      I’m sure that they were real god fearing bastards. And to think I was seen as politically incorrect because of my above comment. Go figure.

    2. Looks like rick/gaddafii has changed his name again to Ama ghana – the obsession with his anus and what people can do to it is a give away, not to mention the “pretend” bad English.

      Still loves hanging around the gays sites, though – cheap thrills go far it seems.

    3. Jock S. Trap 16 Nov 2011, 2:49pm

      Crazy Says What again!!??

    4. THen its fine if I take my Slaves with me to Work? Its Mandated by the Bible. And I can check every piece of clothing in the school worn, and kill anyone wearing garments made of Linen and Wool…. this is the Bible! It is Law! Right?

  52. Fortunately they don’t say anything about necrophilia, sadism or bestiality: they can keep flogging the dead horse of religion.

  53. If they have to live by what the Bible says, then its Okay to own Slaves as long as they are from neighboring Countries? Hey, the bible says I can, right next to where it says Homosexuality is a sin.

  54. jonnielondon 23 Nov 2011, 4:25pm

    The university administration here are shorter on brains than any other!

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