I hope Lloyd Sceats has recovered, physically as well as psychologically.
The attacker was wrong however, the article shows that the fight began when “the victim intervened in an argument.” This is not the same as going out and looking for someone to beat because they are gay. People in our community regularly refer to each other as “fag”, “dyke”, “queer” and other names. Are we now going to charge each other with hate crimes? There is something very suspicious about this case. It sounds more like an attempt to get rid of hate crime laws then to end homophobia.
I’ve got to agree thats what I got from it, his family background might have been a cause for his issues but it seems like the guy got involved in an argument and that was the cause for the fight not homophobia.
I understand your point but the facts are that it can be deemed as homophobic. After all, a derogatory term was used.
Personally, I don’t understand why people would want to smack ten bells out of someone else.
Oh I don’t know about that as most of us could probably write a list…
Surely it was just a drug and drink fuelled spat that got out of hand as so often they do.
No need for a court no need for a report frankly.
A man’s jaw was broken in two places and you think there was no need for a court or a report?!
think you will find paul that i was sober and asked him not to call my friend a c**t.
As i needed my jaw rewired and spent 6 weeks in hospital care obviously you should check your facts before making a comment.
I sort of have the same feelings in that something in this case is just absolutely wrong.
One thing wrong is that this should not be considered a hate crime, as we do use a lot of words that the outside world uses derogatory towards us.
A conviction for assault in some form definitely is in place.
So now we start attacking each other? Social pressures have very hash effects on people. I hate the word tolerances, I want acceptance and love in it’s place, but till then we have to live with tolerance toward every one. Your hatred can transpire onto other people more than you might think.
The hippies got is right, we all just need to love one another…
There certainly are homophobic gay people who are unhappy with their own sexuality. To use the word ‘queer’ in an insulting and aggressive way while you beat someone is not the action of a happy balanced gay man- it speaks of self-loathing.
Add in a little self-hatred too.
All queers loathe other queers as you know.It’s only natural! the only answer is the final solution…..
Nice to see you back Keith. Not.
Oh dear Keith….
Behave accordinly, and grow a thicker skin, gays always show their weak side, I blame soaps like East Enders.
I wouldnt be surprised if the guy provoked him, but they gays have a very good way of acting when they want something.
Your capacity for observation seems to be as limited as your circle of friends must be.
This was my bf lloyd that got attached for helping out a female caught up in a argument out side a straight venue by asking him to calm down. He was attacked by this thug and punched to the ground for no reason the violence was un called for and one sided. Lloyd suffered from a broken jaw and has had to deal with this till justice has been done, this continues to effect his life. This thug had previous for violence and was on a suspended sentence had been on tag and had continued to break the law as far as I’m concerned he is where he belongs.
no provoking thank you. ill show you the cctv if you like.
The word ”queer” used in the way it was, was obviously derogative. I don’t understand why people are defending it. If a hetrosexual said the same thing in the same way it’d be viewed as homophobic, we’re not above laws, and can’t use the fact we’re gay as an excuse for unacceptable behaviour.
It’s perfectly possible that this person does have issues with homosexuality, in just the same way it’s possible a black person might have problems with black people. I have a black partner, and if he were to say some racist remark I’d expect him to be arrested for it. It’s simply not acceptable…
Let alone the physical assault! I mean good lord people! :o
I think this goes to show that Internalized homophobia hurts more than just the person who is dealing with it
Not long enough if you ask me.
A few posters here cr***ed themselves when they saw Lloyd himself posting! Easy to criticize or judge someone behind their back….I hope, Lloyd, you are fully recovered, and can as far as possible, put this behind you. As the victim of two attacks (one bullying incident as a boy, one because I rode a motorcycle), you have my utmost sympathy.